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Why does the crowd not reflect the voters?
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chuck_wippl
27-07-2016
Pretty sure this Q has been asked before but with DS not being arsed to fix their search facility, I can't check.

Why did the crowd boo horrendously for Jason, yet he won? So glad he won, btw. Just SO GLAD! Common sense prevailed
orangeballoon
27-07-2016
the people who can & want to go to eviction shows... just like the demographics who frequent DS forums... are very different... both however can "go with the popular kids" and "side with them" to sound more "united" than they are. (think why unions don't like closed ballots and like open cry voting - its the crowd being pushed into popular votes)....

the viewers are a much wider demographic, largely unconnected and much more likely to vote independently....
Groundhogal
27-07-2016
And why do the housemates always judge who's most popular by the crowd's reactions? One of the crowd's favourites was Winston, who got massive cheers just before he was evicted.
It really screws with their minds.
enufflurkin
27-07-2016
Orangeballoon is right, the majority of people who can be bothered to go there probably have the same mindset as the
Chavvy occupants of the house, and do not reflect the majority of the viewing public.
Also I think there are probably
more older viewers now who appreciate good manners and cannot be doing with blatant
exhibitionism.
Aura101
27-07-2016
the crowds just full of chavs looking for an excuse to hate.
though i don't think they have been too bad this year, no chants of ''who r ya'' and the like.
or maybe its because the crowd has been scaled back abit this year?
Derbyshire.
27-07-2016
Because they are pathetic chav scum who champion screaming,nasty and desperate morons i.e.people like themselves.
IanP
27-07-2016
The smaller crowd does seem to have reduced the worst excesses of the mob mentality this year, possibly because of fewer instigators or reduced anonymity. The crowd is probably younger than the viewing demographic and is more tolerant of (male) "bad" behaviour and less tolerant of older/"boring" HMs or attractive/sexualised female HMs
jeanoj
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by chuck_wippl:
“Pretty sure this Q has been asked before but with DS not being arsed to fix their search facility, I can't check.

Why did the crowd boo horrendously for Jason, yet he won? So glad he won, btw. Just SO GLAD! Common sense prevailed ”

Morons and idiots in the main!
jeanoj
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by enufflurkin:
“Orangeballoon is right, the majority of people who can be bothered to go there probably have the same mindset as the
Chavvy occupants of the house, and do not reflect the majority of the viewing public.
Also I think there are probably
more older viewers now who appreciate good manners and cannot be doing with blatant
exhibitionism.”

Well said!
Truth Teller
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by Groundhogal:
“And why do the housemates always judge who's most popular by the crowd's reactions? One of the crowd's favourites was Winston, who got massive cheers just before he was evicted.
It really screws with their minds.”

The housemates never learn......

Originally Posted by enufflurkin:
“Orangeballoon is right, the majority of people who can be bothered to go there probably have the same mindset as the
Chavvy occupants of the house, and do not reflect the majority of the viewing public.
Also I think there are probably
more older viewers now who appreciate good manners and cannot be doing with blatant
exhibitionism.”

Yes - the viewing public is not the crowd outside......
teresagreen
27-07-2016
I think it's because there are friends and family of potential evictees there, and they hold it against Jason for their family member or friend being evicted/not winning. The rest are made up of chavs who have nothing better to do than boo people, thus showing that they are far worse than the people they boo.
Cranberryapple
27-07-2016
This is what 'throws' the housemates and those who believe in the polls.

They seem to believe if the crowd are 'booing', it means eviction. Twitter has the usual 'it's a fix' going on because some of the young ones ( and you can see they're young ) by their profile pics are saying " Oh my god it's a fix. Hughie was in the lead and Jason got booed "
Trying to reason with them and explain how some of Hughie's big support was from Ireland on the polls, but who couldn't vote, is like banging your head against a brick wall.

Though I definitely believe had Ireland been able to vote ( going on his popularity ) he most certainly would have won. Only my opinion, of course.
chuck_wippl
27-07-2016
I see..

I have to say, when the camera sometimes zooms in on the crowd I am like "...wow... state of it..." so it makes sense now.

Also the crowd is so small that I guess there isn't room for different options.
Alrightmate
27-07-2016
Most of them will live locally and won't represent the breadth of BB viewers across the UK.
It will be a very narrow sample of the general population.
Arcana
27-07-2016
Leaving aside my feelings about elements of the crowd, the fact is some HMs are more divisive, more marmite than others. Jason was entitled to do what he did especially re: Lateysha but inevitably that was going to make him unpopular with some viewers. I didn't have an issue with Jason on that score at all...I just found him rather dull.

In addition to which it may well be that the boo sound carries more than the cheer sound.
ChipPaper
27-07-2016
What gets me is when Emma lists the names of the nominated HMs at an eviction and every single one gets a deafening chorus of boos. What kind of saddo spends their Friday night stood in the rain for a chance to see the evicted HM when they hate them all? Going to cheer your favourite is one thing, but to go just to boo whoever walks out the door since you hate everyone? What losers
pattiflat
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by chuck_wippl:
“Pretty sure this Q has been asked before but with DS not being arsed to fix their search facility, I can't check.

Why did the crowd boo horrendously for Jason, yet he won? So glad he won, btw. Just SO GLAD! Common sense prevailed ”

Its happened lots
meglosmurmurs
27-07-2016
I love the fact that the crowd haven't got the winner they wanted at half the finals of the Ch5 BB's, makes me feel all warm inside.
Plus all the young'uns on twitter getting their hysterical self-entitled panties in a bunch. Reminds me of something else that happened a month ago.

Serves BB right though. It used to be about the various fanbases, but now there's so much negativity that opinions are becoming way too black and white where you're either at one end of the spectrum or the other. Also, the voting is all over the place as voters try to get one up on eachother and the show.
boy_number_8
27-07-2016
I remember reading an article just a few years ago from a reporter who went to one of the eviction nights. He mentioned how the people turn up are the same every week and treat it as a night out. He also mentioned how a lot of them dont really watch the show all that often and are unaware who's actually up for eviction until they arrive.

I have noticed how much nicer the crowd seems to be now they know the evicted housemate cant hear them during the interviews. I also don't think that fat guy whos usually there everyweek booing and shouting "get so and so out" and been turning up
Annabel la
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by Cranberryapple:
“This is what 'throws' the housemates and those who believe in the polls.

They seem to believe if the crowd are 'booing', it means eviction. Twitter has the usual 'it's a fix' going on because some of the young ones ( and you can see they're young ) by their profile pics are saying " Oh my god it's a fix. Hughie was in the lead and Jason got booed "
Trying to reason with them and explain how some of Hughie's big support was from Ireland on the polls, but who couldn't vote, is like banging your head against a brick wall.

Though I definitely believe had Ireland been able to vote ( going on his popularity ) he most certainly would have won. Only my opinion, of course.”

I totally agree with that .If he'd been Northern Ireland or Scottish or Welsh the whole force of that part of UK would have been a very large amount of votes behind him .
Never once was this mentioned or not once was he anything but pleased where he got to! The final was obviously geared up to him winning with impressions of him longer and last.As well as the bit of aIrish dancing.
I voted for zJacksln but I really felt that when they where both sitting on the settee together that they both looked like they where in 1st and 2nd places.with zHughie first.They may well prove to be the true winners of the show.It zlooked so right them sitting there.😃
Croctacus
27-07-2016
It never has since the show moved to CH5. On Ch4 you could work out who was going because of the crowd reaction, they were never wrong. On CH5 they're never right. I think it's cos it's basically rentachav and they support the chavviest housemates.
Annabel la
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by meglosmurmurs:
“I love the fact that the crowd haven't got the winner they wanted at half the finals of the Ch5 BB's, makes me feel all warm inside.
Plus all the young'uns on twitter getting their hysterical self-entitled panties in a bunch. Reminds me of something else that happened a month ago.

Serves BB right though. It used to be about the various fanbases, but now there's so much negativity that opinions are becoming way too black and white where you're either at one end of the spectrum or the other. Also, the voting is all over the place as voters try to get one up on eachother and the show.”

I don't vote every series but when I do it's a couple of votes . I have to admit z<I voted for Jackson ,5 times last night I was so pleased with all the negative comments on this forum was delighted he made last 4 then was resell made up he was in 3rd place.
I don't want to get in voting to manipulate the voting .The winner should be decided by a wide range of voters.
Tall Paul
27-07-2016
Small minded Essex residents who really couldn't care less, they're as common as muck.
betterwithwine
27-07-2016
I think that there is also a huge difference when voting to evict or voting to save/win. A relatively small number of people in unison can make it appear that the majority of the crowd is booing. These people in a vote to save or win situation do not have an effective vote unless they get together and collectively vote for another housemate.
Annabel la
27-07-2016
Originally Posted by meglosmurmurs:
“I love the fact that the crowd haven't got the winner they wanted at half the finals of the Ch5 BB's, makes me feel all warm inside.
Plus all the young'uns on twitter getting their hysterical self-entitled panties in a bunch. Reminds me of something else that happened a month ago.

Serves BB right though. It used to be about the various fanbases, but now there's so much negativity that opinions are becoming way too black and white where you're either at one end of the spectrum or the other. Also, the voting is all over the place as voters try to get one up on eachother and the show.”

Never got into Twitter but don't feel any need to be negative any other housemates or the people who vote for them.
Been hard being a Jackson supper on this forum but on the zJacksln appreciation thread we don't see him as perfect and lovely supporters of other people pop on and wish us good luck and say what they do like about him .I've done the same on one or two other appreciate nation threads and haven't been welcomed in the same way😃
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