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Old 07-12-2016, 14:57
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Looking at the anecdotal evidence in this thread, we can conclude the following:
Vodafone - EE = Yes
Vodafone - O2 = Unknown
Vodafone - Three = Yes
O2 - EE = Yes
O2 - Three = Unknown
EE - Three = Yes

...This assumes that once an HD voice relationship between the networks is set up that calls made from either network to the other can be HD (It'd be horribly complicated if, say, Vodafone dialing EE could be HD, but EE dialing Vodafone could not).


Anyone able to fill in the Unknowns?
I've had HD VF to EE calling in either direction
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Old 07-12-2016, 15:12
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Looking at the anecdotal evidence in this thread, we can conclude the following:
Vodafone - EE = Yes
Vodafone - O2 = Unknown
Vodafone - Three = Yes
O2 - EE = Yes
O2 - Three = Unknown
EE - Three = Yes

...This assumes that once an HD voice relationship between the networks is set up that calls made from either network to the other can be HD (It'd be horribly complicated if, say, Vodafone dialing EE could be HD, but EE dialing Vodafone could not).


Anyone able to fill in the Unknowns?
I've tried today and O2-EE works, O2-Vodafone and Vodafone to O2 doesn't. I couldn't try EE-O2 as I only have a data sim on EE to use.
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Old 07-12-2016, 16:23
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Just tried EE - o2 and it wasn't HD

Tried o2 to EE and it didn't seem HD either
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Old 07-12-2016, 17:14
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Just tried EE - o2 and it wasn't HD

Tried o2 to EE and it didn't seem HD either
Maybe HD calling doesn't like geordies........really who needs it when you have an accent so high only dogs can hear it
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Old 07-12-2016, 18:04
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Looking at the anecdotal evidence in this thread, we can conclude the following:
Vodafone - EE = Yes
Vodafone - O2 = Unknown
Vodafone - Three = Yes
O2 - EE = Yes
O2 - Three = Unknown
EE - Three = Yes

...This assumes that once an HD voice relationship between the networks is set up that calls made from either network to the other can be HD (It'd be horribly complicated if, say, Vodafone dialing EE could be HD, but EE dialing Vodafone could not).


Anyone able to fill in the Unknowns?
EE -> O2 Yes (Most of the time)
O2 -> EE Yes (Most of the time)

But, O2 has a tendancy for calls to drop to 2G mid call which lowers the call quality.
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Old 07-12-2016, 18:10
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Giffgaff to Vodafone not HD Voice today.
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Old 07-12-2016, 18:50
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BT Mobile to GiffGaff was HD Voice today.

It sounded pretty decent,
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Old 07-12-2016, 19:25
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My EE phone number was ported from O2 and I only seem to be able to receive HD calls from other EE customers, not other networks. I wonder if the call going through the original network first breaks it.
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Old 07-12-2016, 19:54
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My EE phone number was ported from O2 and I only seem to be able to receive HD calls from other EE customers, not other networks. I wonder if the call going through the original network first breaks it.
That's very interesting, my number was VF, ported to EE three years ago. The only HD calls I've had so far have been EE and VF . Never knowingly had anything HD to or from O2, or Three
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Old 07-12-2016, 20:06
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My EE phone number was ported from O2 and I only seem to be able to receive HD calls from other EE customers, not other networks. I wonder if the call going through the original network first breaks it.
I've had cross network and my number was GiffGaff, then three, then EE now BT Mobile.
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Old 07-12-2016, 20:15
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I've had cross network and my number was GiffGaff, then three, then EE now BT Mobile.
Works OK for me outgoing, just not incoming except from other EE phones.
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Old 07-12-2016, 20:22
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had a HD call berween ee and three this evenimg.... had to drop to 3G on EE for it to happen.
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Old 08-12-2016, 08:07
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Maybe HD calling doesn't like geordies........really who needs it when you have an accent so high only dogs can hear it
Whales, dogs and whales
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Old 08-12-2016, 10:26
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My EE phone number was ported from O2 and I only seem to be able to receive HD calls from other EE customers, not other networks. I wonder if the call going through the original network first breaks it.
My Three phone number is from o2 originally... that's a very interesting theory, can anyone shed any further light?
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Old 08-12-2016, 12:45
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It's accurate, I can only do HD calls on volte due to where I ported from. 3g to 3g calls on ee are never HD
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Old 08-12-2016, 13:31
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My EE phone number was ported from O2 and I only seem to be able to receive HD calls from other EE customers, not other networks. I wonder if the call going through the original network first breaks it.
That's an interesting point. My Three number was originally ported from Orange (via O2), and I've never had a HD call with any network apart from Three.
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Old 08-12-2016, 13:57
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That's an interesting point. My Three number was originally ported from Orange (via O2), and I've never had a HD call with any network apart from Three.
Does anyone know whether in the case of Scott's number, an incoming call will route O2->EE->Three? Or will it just go from the original number block owner (o2) and direct to the current network (so o2 -> Three)?
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Old 08-12-2016, 18:41
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Does anyone know whether in the case of Scott's number, an incoming call will route O2->EE->Three? Or will it just go from the original number block owner (o2) and direct to the current network (so o2 -> Three)?
I thought with porting the original network routes the call. So for instance if you have a VF number, ported it to 02, then ported it to EE, any call from that point goes VF to EE, not
VF-O2-EE.

Or is all of that a urban myth.

What would happen if (god forbid !) VF went bust ?
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Old 08-12-2016, 19:51
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My number was ported from Vodafone to Three. I've made a successful HD call between Three and EE.
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Old 08-12-2016, 20:42
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My number was ported from Vodafone to Three. I've made a successful HD call between Three and EE.
It doesn't matter if the calling party is using a ported number but if you call a ported number then HD probably won't work
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Old 08-12-2016, 20:59
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I thought with porting the original network routes the call. So for instance if you have a VF number, ported it to 02, then ported it to EE, any call from that point goes VF to EE, not
VF-O2-EE.

Or is all of that a urban myth.

What would happen if (god forbid !) VF went bust ?
Yes it's just the calling network > original network > called network. Any network it might have been ported to in the past is irrelevant.

And yes it would be a problem if the original network went bust although if that happened there would presumably be much larger problems other than breaking the onward routing of ported numbers.

However it does highlight a problem with our onward routing system of porting in that you are always reliant on the original network working to receive calls. This risk together with it seemingly, for the moment at least breaking HD calls means it's still preferable to have a number that's native to that network.

Most other countries, who came to porting later than us, either never adopted this system or have moved away from it to an all calls query and central database system in which direct routing takes place even if the number is ported and thus avoids the problems we might face.
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Old 09-12-2016, 07:35
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Yes it's just the calling network > original network > called network. Any network it might have been ported to in the past is irrelevant.

And yes it would be a problem if the original network went bust although if that happened there would presumably be much larger problems other than breaking the onward routing of ported numbers.

However it does highlight a problem with our onward routing system of porting in that you are always reliant on the original network working to receive calls. This risk together with it seemingly, for the moment at least breaking HD calls means it's still preferable to have a number that's native to that network.

Most other countries, who came to porting later than us, either never adopted this system or have moved away from it to an all calls query and central database system in which direct routing takes place even if the number is ported and thus avoids the problems we might face.
Thanks, interesting !

Reading up on this, it seems in Portugal the caller receives a recorded message just before connection that the number they have dialed has been ported. What's the logic behind that ?!
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Old 09-12-2016, 08:20
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Most other countries, who came to porting later than us, either never adopted this system or have moved away from it to an all calls query and central database system in which direct routing takes place even if the number is ported and thus avoids the problems we might face.
A far better system. Are there any plans, however vague, that we might move to a central database system in the UK, or are we set to continue with the inefficient porting arrangements we currenty have?
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Old 09-12-2016, 08:43
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A far better system. Are there any plans, however vague, that we might move to a central database system in the UK, or are we set to continue with the inefficient porting arrangements we currenty have?
Indeed, in fact if you are porting to a different network for a second time, that process involves three networks !?
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Old 09-12-2016, 11:30
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It doesn't matter if the calling party is using a ported number but if you call a ported number then HD probably won't work
Ok understood, my mistake.
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