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Hughie - 'Lateysha or I would have been a more worthy winner than Jason'
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Wee Tinkers
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by Cheetah666:
“I don't know how to explain Lateysha's appeal, it wasn't just Hughie who seemed to fall for it. Jayne, who you would expect to know better, also fell for it and she was quite nasty to Jayne at the start same way she was to Hughie.

She also has several hundred thousand followers on twitter and - may the saints in Heaven preserve us - has written a book which has sold actual copies!

The Lateysha thing is a puzzle, her appeal is as mysterious to me as the identity of Jack the Ripper.”

Love this - was nodding in agreement the whole way through. at 'which sold actual copies!' Bonkers.

This mentality is putting me off watching CBB. I don't normally like the celeb version but I'm interested in a couple going in this year but one of the Geordie TOWIE lot will win. These talentless scripted reality folk with the huge twitter support monopolise and I do not get the appeal at all.
Salv*
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by Cheetah666:
“I don't know how to explain Lateysha's appeal, it wasn't just Hughie who seemed to fall for it. Jayne, who you would expect to know better, also fell for it and she was quite nasty to Jayne at the start same way she was to Hughie.

She also has several hundred thousand followers on twitter and - may the saints in Heaven preserve us - has written a book which has sold actual copies!

The Lateysha thing is a puzzle, her appeal is as mysterious to me as the identity of Jack the Ripper.”

Exactly this.

I disliked her on the Valleys because of her treatment of Liam. She had a grudge ever since the first episode. Sure he could argue his back socks off but she was the one that started. And he finished it. Then he looked like the villain in 'upsetting a girl' which is crap.

I gave her the benefit of the doubt because I thought 'that's a show and she's probably nothing like that'. I liked her for the first week but then went off her.
Cheetah666
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by Wee Tinkers:
“Love this - was nodding in agreement the whole way through. at 'which sold actual copies!' Bonkers.

This mentality is putting me off watching CBB. I don't normally like the celeb version but I'm interested in a couple going in this year but one of the Geordie TOWIE lot will win. These talentless scripted reality folk with the huge twitter support monopolise and I do not get the appeal at all.”

They spoil it, and that's one of the reasons I wanted Hughie to win, he was one of the few nobodies in there. Jason, however, deserves his win for stopping the Lateysha band wagon in its tracks. I hope Hughie will see that too once he's back with his family and is more grounded in reality.
muggins14
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by quasimoron:
“i would imagine it was a very stressful experience for both of the men. Are they not allowed normal human reactions and feelings. Of course Hughie was nervous and shaking, winning 70 grand is a big thing for someone living in his living conditions and could change his life and that of his family for the better.
I am sure Jason was nervous too its only normal.”

Indeed - they are human, not robots. Hughie was visibly shaking - and I doubt very much it was because he didn't think he should win it I imagine it's pretty scary sitting there knowing you could win that amount of money, plus the idea of leaving the house to a baying mob - terrifying!

If he did look relieved, as somebody thought, perhaps it was that it was all over now one way or the other. Better to know the result than not.

Originally Posted by Pollyusa:
“Jason wasn't my favorite, but I certainly thought he was among the top three housemates. It didn't have anything to do with sympathy or his looks.

Jason's eviction of Lateysha was the turning point of the show and Jason will be remembered for that and how he handled himself afterward.

BTW Interesting that all three of the top three finalists (Jason, Hughie, and Jackson) pressed the button for the 20 grand, I guess it wasn't a big factor for the voting public”

I'd never realised that the top 3 had pressed the button! As for your bib - I totally agree.

Originally Posted by quasimoron:
“Its a game show and the most entertaining should win, that was not Jason IMo. He could not even string a sentence together in his exit interview. He has plenty of money yet grabbed the 20 grand, if that is not greed what is,”

As you say, it's a game show - Jason was eliminating the opposition (he isn't a fool, he knew Lateysha was likely to win the show AND that he was next on the chopping block after hearing his name mentioned a few times in the task that week).

IF you think he's greedy - then all of those who pressed the button were greedy. Just remember though, the money wasn't going back into the pot no matter what. ALL of the contestants are greedy - they all wanted £100k for doing very little for 7 weeks or so.

Originally Posted by quasimoron:
“Yes interesting and jasons eviction of lateshya showed how cold and calculating he was. But i did not mind that it was part of the game.The difference in the three pressing the button; was Jason is well off and the other two haven't a bean. Of course they pressed it but why did he ? Jackson and Hughie pressed because they are broke and Jason pressed from pure greed, He obviously has a big love of money. People who like him will excuse or rationalize his behaviour and vote for him but for me it put me off him. He showed his hand then.”

A 'big love of money' - who hasn't? Tell that to Philip Green

Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“That's quite an assumption , that he won because older women fancied him .
Speak for yourself .
Hughie gave us tantrums and screaming and having sex on national telly , and frankly none of that appealed to me as an adult who wanted to be entertained by other adults .
Jason binning the awful control freak Teesha was the first time I found the show catering to actual adults prepared to offend the house bullies (sorry for using the B word , but it fits) by making hard choices . Then Ryan going brought out more of the other players , again partly due to Jason . He dragged the show kicking and screaming from a teen angst ridden romper room for sex obsessed idiots into the adult show it was meant to be .
I enjoyed watching proper adult conversations and a grown man evolving into someone more content in his own skin .
He most certainly deserved the win and therefore he won .”

your bib - couldn't agree more. Jason changed the game around completely that week, a task I did not like the sound of at all changed the show for the better. It also brought a reality (pardon the pun) check for the rest of the housemates who suddenly realised they had to play the game better and up their game. He turned it on it's head and thank heaven he did.

Originally Posted by JT Effect:
“I think 'deserving' sounds worse than worthy too.”

If he meant deserving within the context of the show, then I'd say it's better than worthy - which sounds more of a judgement on Jason's character than his performance on the show.

Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Either way. He just needs to get away from the others bdcusse he seemed genuinely happy last night. I can only think of one reason why he'd change his tune as soon as he came out...hmm Ryan.

He gets too influenced. But still stand by him and Jason being my Top 2 ever.

Something I think won't be surpassed ever again.”

You keep saying Hughie's easily influenced - yet not once was he averse to expressing his own opinion on the shown, nor going against those he hung out with or snogged if he thought they were wrong. He seemed a man of strong will and strong beliefs, a man not a gullible little boy.

Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Course he should have. All the finalists deserved to be there over most evicted hms. They all deserved it.”

They all deserved to be in the final because the public said it is so, they are the people that the public didn't evict, so of course they all deserved to be there. Fortunately it was also the best possible line-up out of all the housemates who went in, with none of the under-the-radar HMs still standing.

Originally Posted by Veri:
“Of course, he can say it. And then we can decide what we think of him because of he said it.

Hughie's responsible for his own statements -- not Ryan, Lateysha or the papers / interviews.”

Indeed. People are doing Hughie a great disservice to suggest he's Ryan or Lateysha's puppet.

Originally Posted by Wee Tinkers:
“He didn't really say anything awful. Pretty much I'm happy for him but one of my mates should have won.

Not surprised. He is very clique-minded.

Funnily enough, last night, I watched the clip were the bedroom bitches were slagging Hughie and Jayne defended him. Lateysha's control was so obvious. She shut down ANY defence of Hughie. She was having none of it - she decreed him house whipping boy and that was that.

Does he realise this worthy winner in his mind had the power to make or break his time there?

If he hadn't got those cheers she would have had the house against him - he would have had an awful time - and by the time they got to annihilation wk (if he survived that long) maybe Hughie would have been grateful that Jason got shot.

And how would she be worthy anyway? Going in with an advantage? Laying in bed bitching with her crones about her with whiffs of Josie about her? The occasional twerk and body popping? Now THAT would be an unjust win.

Hughie hasn't said anything dreadful to write home about but imo his take on things is really skewed.”

Well put.

Originally Posted by Cheetah666:
“I don't know how to explain Lateysha's appeal, it wasn't just Hughie who seemed to fall for it. Jayne, who you would expect to know better, also fell for it and she was quite nasty to Jayne at the start same way she was to Hughie.

She also has several hundred thousand followers on twitter and - may the saints in Heaven preserve us - has written a book which has sold actual copies!

The Lateysha thing is a puzzle, her appeal is as mysterious to me as the identity of Jack the Ripper.”

I liked her for a while, for all her stupidity at times she often came out with something mature or a really good observation. Plus she was the one who challenged Marco and his behaviour. Yes, at the start I did like her. My opinion changed though

ETA: Meant to say, I think that Hughie was rather enamoured of the Lateysha he knew from the TV show she was in - to him she was a 'celeb' and he said he watched all the reality TV shows. He may have been mixing up her on-screen persona (didn't see it, don't know what she was like, but just being on TV adds gloss to a person for some viewers) with the reality of her.
jp761
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by Bless You:
“I haven't read the article either. Were we supposed to? ”

Well.. Sometimes i'm lazy and think of the thread title as accurate Anyway my posts in the thread make general points mainly!

Anyone who has a problem with that knows where my office is!!

Originally Posted by Cheetah666:
“Didn't you know there would be homework? A hundred lines and detention for you, and I suppose you'll tell me now the dog ate your internet.

”

This^^^^ out of order!

You know where my office is!

karl_kennedy
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Well, I have a feeling he'll be the most successful out of this lot, so you may want to switch over if he ever comes across your TV screen again ”

kin ell...really got you fooled hasn't he .....successful at what exactly?.....screaming till he goes purple?....not many TV outlets available for that kind of party piece...the one that encourages it has just finished and he could only manage the runner up spot........he's history ...bye baldy
Salv*
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by karl_kennedy:
“kin ell...really got you fooled hasn't he .....successful at what exactly?.....screaming till he goes purple?....not many TV outlets available for that kind of party piece...the one that encourages it has just finished and he could only manage the runner up spot........he's history ...bye baldy”

I'm not fooled at all.

It's true. Looking online, people are wanting to snap him up. He's in demand, a lot more than others. I think there WILL be a show, but about his family, not about Ryan thank God. They are in talks.
Cheetah666
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“I'm not fooled at all.

It's true. Looking online, people are wanting to snap him up. He's in demand, a lot more than others. I think there WILL be a show, but about his family, not about Ryan thank God. They are in talks.”

I'd give up if I was you Salv. Anyone still ranting on about Hughie at this stage is as beyond reason as the saddos ranting about Jason's win on twitter.
Salv*
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by Cheetah666:
“I'd give up if I was you Salv. Anyone still ranting on about Hughie at this stage is as beyond reason as the saddos ranting about Jason's win on twitter.”

Agreed.

Scarlett Berry
28-07-2016
I'll fess up here, I can't be ar*ed reading all the thread, so apologies in advance if I upset anyone. (Apparently a quip from me can cause a fm to go postal)

Anyhoo...the level of bitterness and vitriol from Hughie, Lateysha and Ryan fans is quite frankly hilarious.

Oh and the assumption that only middle aged woman voted for Jason is pathetic.

Those that like a lovely decent housemate picked up the phone and he won. Get over it.

Old style manners shone through. Some folk might like to take a leaf out of his book and stop bellyaching. He was a worthy winner.
karl_kennedy
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“I'll fess up here, I can't be ar*ed reading all the thread, so apologies in advance if I upset anyone. (Apparently a quip from me can cause a fm to go postal)

Anyhoo...the level of bitterness and vitriol from Hughie, Lateysha and Ryan fans is quite frankly hilarious.

Oh and the assumption that only middle aged woman voted for Jason is pathetic.

Those that like a lovely decent housemate picked up the phone and he won. Get over it.

Old style manners shone through. Some folk might like to take a leaf out of his book and stop bellyaching. He was a worthy winner.”

Amen SB....Amen
RegTheDonk
28-07-2016
Must say I was pleasantly surprised when Jason pipped him to the post.

Can't understand the fascination with Hughie. Maybe its an age thing?
Scarlett Berry
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by karl_kennedy:
“Amen SB....Amen ”

Right back at ya KKxx
Miss.D
28-07-2016
I am sure many think Jason is not a worthy winner, they want an all singing and dancing person like Lateysha or Ryan (god forbid!). I am glad Jason won in many ways, because it shows you don't need to be that type of person to win a show, and why should they all be like that? I like that there are different types of people who win. Jason won it for other reasons, and his takedown of Lateysha was spectacular. I think Hughie is entitled to an opinion and, whether it is right or wrong, I think they all have opinions on who a 'worthy' winner is. He still congratulated Jason and that is just his opinion. But in the end, Jason won and they should just move on and let him enjoy his win.
JoJo4
28-07-2016
I think many viewers and certainly several of the HMs confused Jason's lust for the money with his need for survival!

I don't think taking the cash was his main reason for pressing the button - he knew that if almost anyone else pressed it, his name would come out of their mouth.

It's a competition, called a Game Show, and the aim is to stay in the game until the end.
Miss.D
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by JoJo4:
“I think many viewers and certainly several of the HMs confused Jason's lust for the money with his need for survival!

I don't think taking the cash was his main reason for pressing the button - he knew that if almost anyone else pressed it, his name would come out of their mouth.

It's a competition, called a Game Show, and the aim is to stay in the game until the end.”

And that's about it, really. People forget that!
JoJo4
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by Miss.D:
“And that's about it, really. People forget that!”

The reasons for going on the show get confused for the viewers when we have massively entitled HMs like Lateysha, saying 'that money would let me do so much for my baby' as though it was hers by right.

Hopefully a lot of single parents who watch BB and hold down a job - sometimes 2 jobs - to support their kids will have been shouting at the screen 'well get a regular job then'.
dorsetwasp
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“I'll fess up here, I can't be ar*ed reading all the thread, so apologies in advance if I upset anyone. (Apparently a quip from me can cause a fm to go postal)

Anyhoo...the level of bitterness and vitriol from Hughie, Lateysha and Ryan fans is quite frankly hilarious.

Oh and the assumption that only middle aged woman voted for Jason is pathetic.

Those that like a lovely decent housemate picked up the phone and he won. Get over it.

Old style manners shone through. Some folk might like to take a leaf out of his book and stop bellyaching. He was a worthy winner.”

Very well said Scarlett, he was definitely the only winner for me.
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