Things have really changed for the white family. I used to really like Chrissie and Lawrence and hate Lachlan but now Lachlan is the only one of them I feel sorry for. Lawrence has been treating Lachlan horrible and all Lachlan ever did was show him love. Lawrence has been going around the village being drunk and angry because he was outed and Chrissie decides framing someone for murder is an acceptable punishment for sleeping with someone else while you're on a break. Lawrence and Chrissie have become extremely unsympathetic characters, does anyone else agree?

Apart from that whole sexual assault thing.

Right I hated him back then, but I've been feeling bad for him the last couple weeks and I'm not mad at him for shooting Lawrence.

Personally I find it impossible not to feel sorry for UnLucky at the moment because basically he's a child who has been treated very cruelly by Lawrence when he's at a very vulnerable age. Chrissie has mostly just been ineffectual as a parent - in denial that UnLucky has behavioural problems and happy to let Lawrence throw money at the results of his bad behaviour, as if covering up and running away from his misdeeds will somehow cure the root cause, (with the honourable exception of her ratting him out about the Alicia thing).

UnLucky is clearly a damaged individual but he never had any intention of shooting Lawrence and has several times told Chrissie he should confess, but once again she does the wrong thing. So yes, I'm on Unlucky's side and hope he gets the help he needs at some point in this sl.

I agree with you 100%, Chrissie is way too protective of Lachlan and needs to stop covering up his crimes and get him the mental help he needs. I do wonder if Chrissie needs mental help herself. I mean she set fire to Robert's car cuz he cheated and now she's framing Andy for murder because he slept with Bernice while they were on a break.

To be fair Andy and Ross were Willing to let her take the fall for Roberts shooting, it was her almost being aressted which caused Lawrence to confess and spend time in prison even then Andy didn't confess. Also he's spent the past few month telling her how she's deserved to be treated much better than being betrayed and lied to, then does the same thing himself. Andy has made a rod for his own back and while chrissie may be being harsh, Andy has this coming and will not generate much sympathy.

I still like Chrissie Andy had an opportunity to tell the truth when she asked him who he'd been talking to and he said Dianne, I think that was the final straw.

Interview here with Louise Marwood & Kelvin Fletcher from What's on TV uploaded a few days ago for those that are interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c0eqbGJD_8

But Chrissie was basically ready to forgive Andy for the shooting, she only got upset when she foudn out he slept with Bernice and IMHO Chrissie has no right to be upset about that since they were broken up at that time. The same thing happened with Tracy when she slept with that random who robbed her. Did David get mad? No cuz they were on a break and he had no right to judge.

I think the problem as Diane said to Andy last night, is the length of time between going on a break and jumping the bones of the next one. On soaps, it's like a couple have a row/break up one ep and the next ep one of them is in bed with somebody else. It hardly makes the other partner feel good to know that their partner until the day before thought so little of them and apparently cared so little about the split that they could move on to the next shag within hours or days. Chrissie is right to be mad imo and DopeyDurvid was stupid to apparently not give it a second thought when SkankTracy did it.

I don;t like it when characters get away with crimes in soaps, but this was an accident. If Lachlan had owned up to this, Lawrence would have backed him up and the consequences would not be too serious for Lachlan. But Chrissie interfered, and now there is no going back. Lachlan is playing the part well, and he has grown at a great rate in the last year. Chrissie should have gone to prison for bringing the helicopter down, with the subsequent deaths; surely the writers can't let her get away with perverting the course of justices as well.

OK, I see your point and it is a bit quick to jump into bed with another person but really setting up someone for murder? I could see Chrissie getting mad and cussing Andy out but she went way too far with this one.


Well if Robert is able to get away with all the crimes he's committed you know Chrissie won't pay for her crimes.

When Katie cheated on him he tried to shoot her and Robert..so you know, he could have had it works is she played by his rules.

Chrissie and Andy were a dreadful pairing anyway, they never felt believable together and was just a plot device to get to this story

If he was going to shoot somebody, why couldn't it gave been Chrissie?

But we are talking about Chrissie here and what Andy did a decade ago to Katie and Robert does not justify anything.

Ok then what about last year and his double murder pact ?.. I'm going to anticipate you saying Robert deserved it well then so does Andy he's every bit as bad, also Pete never harmed him neither or Lawrence who he was willing to let take the fall.

Andy might not be guilty for this attempted murder but him being in trial is basically karma.

Andy's actions do not justify Chrissie setting him up for the shooting and like I said before she was ready to forgive him for having Robert shot. So her reasoning for this was because he cheated on her he deserves to be framed for murder...even though it wasn't even cheating.

If you like sexual predators who show no remorse for their actions. laugh at their punishment and tease their victim's child afterwards . Then there's the whole taunting and stealing from the widow of his mother's victim thing

Lovely lad.

I still like chrissie and Lawrence, I will like chrissie a lot more now they've pulled her away from the awful Andy.
She was always well out of his league and I didn't buy the paring one bit. it was completely contrived.

While I don't think Andy is awful at all, I do agree that the pairing with Chrissie was forced. They really should put her with Ross.

I disagree Mark, Chrissie is still likeable form where I'm sitting.

To counter some of your points, she isn't actually framing Andy for murder since Lawrence isn't dead. Her and Andy were not split up or on a break, they had an argument because Andy got Ross to shoot Robert, she needed some space to understand the situation and got the information she need from Ross and went back to Andy who had already jumped back into bed with Bernice.
She made a mistake in not letting Lachlan confess to what he had done, and her instincts to protect him took over once again and she put everything on the line to do so - she had no intention of framing Andy or anyone else for the shooting until the last minute.
I was laughing as Andy opened up the boot to reveal the gun. Go Chrissie!

While I quite like Lachlan, he is played by a decent actor and is interesting to watch, I'm not sure that I would say he is likeable.

ETA: I also still have a lot of sympathy for Lawrence and everything he has been through.

You're right its not murder, but why set Andy up? This woman is clearly unstable when someone cheats on her she goes in for the kill. The next man she gets with better not stray or he might end up dead

No. They're all toxic dysfunctional brats.

She did it in the heat of the moment after he betrayed her and did not admit to it when she gave him the opportunity.

If you didn't fancy Andy I daresay you would not be so worked up about it.

I can only see him as a sex pervert.

That wasn't in the heat of the moment, it took thought and planning to pull that off, now I'll say when she pull the Waiting to Exhale on Robert's car that was in the heat of the moment.

And me thinking Andy is the hottest guy on all the soaps has nothing to do with it.