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Emnerdale: Lachlan is now the only likable member of the Whites
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Darth_Vader_12
28-07-2016
I'm just gonna say this and some of you guys might wanna kill me for this.

But, I HATE Chrissie with a passion. She's a stuck up, opinionated whingebag who always feels sorry for herself!
Andybear
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by Darth_Vader_12:
“I'm just gonna say this and some of you guys might wanna kill me for this.

But, I HATE Chrissie with a passion. She's a stuck up, opinionated whingebag who always feels sorry for herself!”

I'm with you all the way
Oldnjaded
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“I think that's a very dangerous and irresponsible way to go Mark.

Rapists don't reform.”

I don't know anything about the show Mark mentioned, but we all know that rape is generally nothing at all to do with sex, just power and control, neither of which apply in the case of Lachlan imo. Lachlan was a 14 year old lad with all the normal curiosity and burgeoning sexual urges of a kid that age who had an ineffectual mother and no friends except the internet. He was (and still is) a damaged kid with a crush and he made a horrible, tragic mistake that ruined Alicia's life, but I don't accept that it's somehow inherent in his personality and he can never reform. (Although it will take a lot more than his in denial mother and equally damaged grandad to get him back on track).
sorcha_healy27
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by Oldnjaded:
“I don't know anything about the show Mark mentioned, but we all know that rape is generally nothing at all to do with sex, just power and control, neither of which apply in the case of Lachlan imo. Lachlan was a 14 year old lad with all the normal curiosity and burgeoning sexual urges of a kid that age who had an ineffectual mother and no friends except the internet. He was (and still is) a damaged kid with a crush and he made a horrible, tragic mistake that ruined Alicia's life, but I don't accept that it's somehow inherent in his personality and he can never reform. (Although it will take a lot more than his in denial mother and equally damaged grandad to get him back on track). ”

Oh I wasn't referring to Lachlan when I made that point. I was talking about adult rapists.
Oldnjaded
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“Oh I wasn't referring to Lachlan when I made that point. I was talking about adult rapists.”

xx
sorcha_healy27
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by Oldnjaded:
“xx”

The problem is Chrissie didn't give him any bounderies

He is a mixed up young man with serious issues.
Adrian_Ward1
28-07-2016
I find
Lachlan very interesting to watch
sheepiefarm
28-07-2016
No - he's not the most likeable White - he's just as unlikeable as the rest of them.


Just cos he's developed a few muscles and played the "poor me" card doesn't stop him from being a creep.
Oldnjaded
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“The problem is Chrissie didn't give him any bounderies

He is a mixed up young man with serious issues.”

Yes. Chrissie is in denial that he's got behavioural problems and is happy for Lawrence to just keep throwing money at the problems Lucky creates to make them go away. She's a rubbish mum overall, (except for the one time she did right thing by ratting him out over Alicia eventually), and if she'd just faced up to his problems long ago and got him professional help, things could've turned out a lot differently for him.
Whedonite
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by Oldnjaded:
“I don't know anything about the show Mark mentioned, but we all know that rape is generally nothing at all to do with sex, just power and control, neither of which apply in the case of Lachlan imo. Lachlan was a 14 year old lad with all the normal curiosity and burgeoning sexual urges of a kid that age who had an ineffectual mother and no friends except the internet. He was (and still is) a damaged kid with a crush and he made a horrible, tragic mistake that ruined Alicia's life, but I don't accept that it's somehow inherent in his personality and he can never reform. (Although it will take a lot more than his in denial mother and equally damaged grandad to get him back on track). ”

Except he's shown that he isn't truly remorseful for his actions and he even mocked his punishment. It doesn't matter that he didn't do it out of need for power, he did it because he's nasty and twisted.

I know that some people love to blame the parents for the actions of teenagers, but the way Chrissie has raised him says nothing about his attitude.
Oldnjaded
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by Whedonite:
“Except he's shown that he isn't truly remorseful for his actions and he even mocked his punishment. It doesn't matter that he didn't do it out of need for power, he did it because he's nasty and twisted.

I know that some people love to blame the parents for the actions of teenagers, but the way Chrissie has raised him says nothing about his attitude.”

Well I tend to think he was eventually remorseful about what he did to Alicia and apologised accordingly. To me his motives for what he did were as I mentioned in my post and while he's clearly a damaged child, I don't agree that he's 'nasty and twisted'. And while many good parents can end up with inexplicably unpleasant kids, I don't think that's the case here. Chrissie appears to have been totally ineffectual as a parent which of course is reflected in his attitude and everything else about him. He wasn't born that way.
sorcha_healy27
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by Whedonite:
“Except he's shown that he isn't truly remorseful for his actions and he even mocked his punishment. It doesn't matter that he didn't do it out of need for power, he did it because he's nasty and twisted.

I know that some people love to blame the parents for the actions of teenagers, but the way Chrissie has raised him says nothing about his attitude.”

Actually I think it says quite a lot. No attention and throwing money at the issue to make it go away with no consequences means that he grew up with a sense that he could do what he wanted and had no bounderies

Even when he wanted to talk to her thr other day she told him not to be needy.

Ridiculous excuse for a mother.
Adrian_Ward1
28-07-2016
He's very Talented
Reserved
28-07-2016
The White's got off to a bumpy start, for me. Wasn't keen on them and they were uninteresting...

Just as they started picking up momentum at the end of last year, they've completely ruined them now. I will never like Lachlan, but Chrissie and Lawrence were going places and they've turned out to be just as unlikeable as Lachlan.

The writers piss me right off, just get rid of the lot now; I've given up on them (the characters I mean, although, thinking about it... the writers can go as well!)
Kirsty_M
28-07-2016
I don't really like the character but he is the most enjoyable to watch IMO
I think he is a really talented actor as is John Bowe and I hope neither are the Home Farm exit
Whedonite
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by Oldnjaded:
“Well I tend to think he was eventually remorseful about what he did to Alicia and apologised accordingly. To me his motives for what he did were as I mentioned in my post and while he's clearly a damaged child, I don't agree that he's 'nasty and twisted'. And while many good parents can end up with inexplicably unpleasant kids, I don't think that's the case here. Chrissie appears to have been totally ineffectual as a parent which of course is reflected in his attitude and everything else about him. He wasn't born that way.”

How remorseful was he when he was winding up Jacob over his actions, not all that long ago

How many rapists are born that way? Many were raised in damaging environments, but where do you draw the line on who to feel bad for?

What about when he was messing with a grieving widow, who lost his wife due to his mother's stupid actions?

Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“Actually I think it says quite a lot. No attention and throwing money at the issue to make it go away with no consequences means that he grew up with a sense that he could do what he wanted and had no bounderies

Even when he wanted to talk to her thr other day she told him not to be needy.

Ridiculous excuse for a mother.”

I'm sure Chrissie never told him that performing sexual acts on a woman while she was sleeping, was perfectly acceptable. Or is the Internet to blame for that one and not Lachlan?
sorcha_healy27
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by Whedonite:
“How remorseful was he when he was winding up Jacob over his actions

How many rapists are born that way? Many were raised in damaging environments, but where do you draw the line on who to feel bad for?



I'm sure Chrissie never told him that performing sexual acts to a woman while she was sleeping, was perfectly acceptable.”

Oh ffs. You're not even pretending to try and get behind the psychology of his mindset.

A child that receives little attention and is given everything bar love and affection not aswell as discipline and a sense of eight and wrong is hardly going to turn out to be a good person.

When he assaulted Alicia she did nothing. Actually she blamed Alicia. He's shot Laurence and she's framing someone else.

Lachlan was a minor youth who's never received any sort of treatment for his warped mind. It's like lighting a flame to a fuse.

She has to take some level of responsibility. Of course what Lachlan did was horrific..that goes without saying
Whedonite
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“Oh ffs. You're not even pretending to try and get behind the psychology of his mindset.

A child that receives little attention and is given everything bar love and affection not aswell as discipline and a sense of eight and wrong is hardly going to turn out to be a good person.

When he assaulted Alicia she did nothing. Actually she blamed Alicia. He's shot Laurence and she's framing someone else.

Lachlan was a minor youth who's never received any sort of treatment for his warped mind. It's like lighting a flame to a fuse.

She has to take some level of responsibility. Of course what Lachlan did was horrific..that goes without saying”

Calm down, we're talking about a fictional character. There's no need to react like that.

I haven't said that Chrissie is blameless. There's a huge difference between thinking that Lachlan's behaviour can't be basically excused because of a bad mother and thinking that Chrissie is totally blameless

Chrissie is a shite mother, but Lachlan sexually assaulting a woman and showing no deep remorse for it, even a year after, cannot be blamed on that.
Andybear
28-07-2016
Thomas Atkinson is really playing a blinder to provoke such strong reactions. Lachlan is a difficult role and I hope he continues to do well as an adult actor (if he decides to stick with it).
Darth_Vader_12
28-07-2016
I also feel sorry for Lachlan for some reason.

Plus, the writers need to get rid off Lawrence and Chrissie. Hate both of them, ESPECIALLY Chrissie!!
Orchideam
28-07-2016
Originally Posted by Darth_Vader_12:
“I also feel sorry for Lachlan for some reason.

Plus, the writers need to get rid off Lawrence and Chrissie. Hate both of them, ESPECIALLY Chrissie!!”

Agree, just can't stand her perpetual whiney voice.
albiex
29-07-2016
He is horrible deranged character and it's in his make-up. Nothing to do with his upbringing, Parents don't make a kid mentally unhinged or wicked, unless it's in his genes and it could be with Chrissie as mad as she is.
Maddalene
29-07-2016
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“No. They're all toxic dysfunctional brats.”

Ha. The posh family always are
MK184
29-07-2016
I like Chrissie; obviously setting somebody up for murder and now preventing Lachlan from telling the truth is unforgivable, but I think Andy and Bernice do deserve a comeuppance, though not to this extreme. I think because Chrissie has always been privileged, always able to have gotten what she wants, she can't accept that things can go wrong, such as not getting Lachlan help; she probably sees him as her perfect son and can't accept that he has flaws.
Ben96
29-07-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“Exactly. Andy might have done a lot of bad stuff be he's done nothing worthy of being framed for this shooting.”

I think Chrissie is a woman scorned, she's been cheated on before by Robert, and now his brother Andy, I think she was starting to question whether he's as bad as his brother, and that's part of the reason for this revenge in framing him. Also, the other night she asked Andy who he was talking to on the phone, and he lied and said Dianne, I think that was the final straw for her, as he had the opportunity to tell the truth.
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