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Miss Con Strue
29-07-2016
Originally Posted by al_capo:
“Exactly, Marnie can do what she likes. She is in a room with adults, by the way Saira was going on you would think she had never heard of sex. Marnie such remind Saira that her mum is watching so she can stop being such a snobby gobshite.”

I think the gobshite is Marnie - as demonstrated.
al_capo
29-07-2016
Originally Posted by Bionic01:
“I agree, Marnie's been in her Geordie Shore bubble too long, like Charlotte where wetting the bed and having sex on TV is the norm. Saira is merely civilised,”

Saira is just another moany, miserable loose women who is incapable of laughing at herself. Every time the young people have a bit of fun, her eyes will burning in the back of there heads. Also Marnie can do what she likes, who is Saira to judge? Marnie has a better career than her anyway...
Miss Con Strue
29-07-2016
Originally Posted by al_capo:
“Exactly, Marnie can do what she likes. She is in a room with adults, by the way Saira was going on you would think she had never heard of sex. Marnie such remind Saira that her mum is watching so she can stop being such a snobby gobshite.”

Originally Posted by heresitting:
“Because she's already played the race/culture card with James Whale.

Marnie isn't a child, she's an experienced RT participant and what Marnie's parents may not may think of her behaviour is nothing to do with Saira.”

What's with the 'race card'? Saira and James had an adult, interesting conversation. She was asking why he had been given a racist label and he explained. As a woman of ethnicity, obviously that would be a concern to her. She explained that if he was indeed a racist, that was fine, but she would keep her distance. He says he isn't a racist, she's fine with that, so they will no doubt get to know each other.
diesels hummin
29-07-2016
She dominated the show, she is shaping up well.
al_capo
29-07-2016
Originally Posted by Miss Con Strue:
“What's with the 'race card'? Saira and James had an adult, interesting conversation. She was asking why he had been given a racist label and he explained. As a woman of ethnicity, obviously that would be a concern to her. She explained that if he was indeed a racist, that was fine, but she would keep her distance. He says he isn't a racist, she's fine with that, so they will no doubt get to know each other.”

Maybe its just her face that annoys me, her expressions and the looks that she gives people just annoyed me. It didnt come across that she was looking out for Marnie it just seemed like a dig to me.
Miss Con Strue
29-07-2016
Originally Posted by al_capo:
“Saira is just another moany, miserable loose women who is incapable of laughing at herself. Every time the young people have a bit of fun, her eyes will burning in the back of there heads. Also Marnie can do what she likes, who is Saira to judge? Marnie has a better career than her anyway...”

Why don't you wait until she is moany and miserable, burning her eyes into anyone having 'fun', before you call out the lynch mob. The only person I saw rolling eyes at the people in the pool was Grant, but you haven't commented on that. Define better. If getting slaughtered, having sex on national TV and wetting yourself is now regarded as a good career, Lord help us.
Bagshot85
29-07-2016
Gobsmacked at some of the posts here. You're talking about the race card being pulled by Saira, when the only people who seem to keep bringing her race up are you.
What's her race got to do with her and Marnie's exchange?
Smh here...
Bionic01
29-07-2016
Originally Posted by Miss Con Strue:
“What's with the 'race card'? Saira and James had an adult, interesting conversation. She was asking why he had been given a racist label and he explained. As a woman of ethnicity, obviously that would be a concern to her. She explained that if he was indeed a racist, that was fine, but she would keep her distance. He says he isn't a racist, she's fine with that, so they will no doubt get to know each other.”

Yep that's all I saw, she actually has some more conservative views of various Islamic/immigration issues anyway, she wouldn't be one to play any 'race' card.
Angie_Plasty
29-07-2016
If she didn't like the conversation she should have just got up and walked away and found a conversation more suited to her, like James did.

I'm sure Marnie was baiting her (no pun intended) but it's really not on trying to control someone and it's especially presumptuous trying to shame them with the old 'your mother would be ashamed of you' tactic.

Or maybe they were just sparring with each other. It's so early in the series it's hard to be sure.
Miss Con Strue
29-07-2016
Originally Posted by al_capo:
“Maybe its just her face that annoys me, her expressions and the looks that she gives people just annoyed me. It didnt come across that she was looking out for Marnie it just seemed like a dig to me.”

Nobody can help their face. I saw an older woman, hearing a drunk, younger woman being graphic and was trying to stop her making herself look skanky. I think there is no hope there - Marnie is on a mission, Saira should step back and let her do her worse.
al_capo
29-07-2016
Originally Posted by Miss Con Strue:
“Why don't you wait until she is moany and miserable, burning her eyes into anyone having 'fun', before you call out the lynch mob. The only person I saw rolling eyes at the people in the pool was Grant, but you haven't commented on that. Define better. If getting slaughtered, having sex on national TV and wetting yourself is now regarded as a good career, Lord help us.”

She already was all of those things tonight, also I forgot Grant was in the show tbh. Well pretty much all of the geordie shore cast are nearing millionaire status, maybe not Marnie as she hasnt been as long as Charlotte or Scotty T. She also does alot of PA's, lie it or not the show she is from is popular and is watched by millions of people worldwide. As far as Im aware Saira doesnt have much going on apart from Loose Women? I could be wrong though admittedly but Marnie is doing well for herself either way.
al_capo
29-07-2016
Originally Posted by Bagshot85:
“Gobsmacked at some of the posts here. You're talking about the race card being pulled by Saira, when the only people who seem to keep bringing her race up are you.
What's her race got to do with her and Marnie's exchange?
Smh here...”

I didnt say it had any relevance to the Marnie thing Im just saying that maybe the conversation could of waited a bit longer. Anyway these thing arent really what annoyed me it was a few patronising looks I seen her give to a few of the younger people.
muggins14
29-07-2016
Originally Posted by Miss Con Strue:
“I think she was looking out for her. She rightly reminded her that her mother may be watching and probably wouldn't want to hear the way she was speaking. The conversation was so contrived, Marnie was trying to be as crude as possible for attention. It wasn't relevant to the conversation they were having, so there was no reason why she should start talking about having sex, vibrators and masturbating. She has the intellectual capacity of a slug and showed no respect for the other people in the room.”

I agree, it was contrived purely for shock purposes.

I've no objection to talking about vibrators (as JP he knows ) or anything else here or in the 'real world', but the girl just brought up the topic out of the blue, started trying to gain attention by being as crude as she could for no apparent reason - it seemed to come out of nowhere.

It's like she doesn't know how to make normal conversation amidst grown-up company.

Originally Posted by Miss Con Strue:
“Marnie was not a young lass having fun. During a conversation with people she had just met, she randomly started making crude comments - purely to grab attention. Nobody else was interested in who she is going to have sex with, her vibrator or her masturbating. Why would they? Saira has not played any race card. You are the one singling her out because of her race.”

Indeed.

Originally Posted by al_capo:
“No, its because in the show Ive just watched she brought it up herself when talking to James. That also shouldn't be something discussed on the first night, NO?”

That's different - she obviously knows who James Whale is, what he was sacked for and his political affiliations (UKIP). She may even have read headlines such as "BBC presenter accused of ‘racism’ after live radio jibe" and many of us know Whale loves to talk, so she asked him about his views.

Originally Posted by Miss Con Strue:
“What's with the 'race card'? Saira and James had an adult, interesting conversation. She was asking why he had been given a racist label and he explained. As a woman of ethnicity, obviously that would be a concern to her. She explained that if he was indeed a racist, that was fine, but she would keep her distance. He says he isn't a racist, she's fine with that, so they will no doubt get to know each other.”

Exactly. Two grown-ups having a conversation - funnily enough with no shouting or abuse thrown in
al_capo
29-07-2016
Originally Posted by Miss Con Strue:
“Nobody can help their face. I saw an older woman, hearing a drunk, younger woman being graphic and was trying to stop her making herself look skanky. I think there is no hope there - Marnie is on a mission, Saira should step back and let her do her worse.”

You basically just said that Ive started a "lynch mob" on Saira yet you seem to be doing the same in regards to Marnie.
Bagshot85
29-07-2016
Originally Posted by al_capo:
“I didnt say it had any relevance to the Marnie thing Im just saying that maybe the conversation could of waited a bit longer. Anyway these thing arent really what annoyed me it was a few patronising looks I seen her give to a few of the younger people.”

She's acting (atm) pretty much the same way most of us forumers do whilst watch bb/cbb.
You think that it's normal to ask a person you've just met if they plan on having sex or indulge in some me time?
Marnie was playing for attention and got the reaction she was looking for.
BillyLagan
29-07-2016
Originally Posted by diesels hummin:
“She dominated the show, she is shaping up well.”

The most interesting so far.
Woodbine
29-07-2016
I felt a bit sorry for her to be honest, she looked uncomfortable and awkward.
Supercalifragil
29-07-2016
I really like Saira...... Her face when she was being asked about vibrators and masturbation... Oh goodness, l was in stitches!
MadBetty
29-07-2016
Originally Posted by al_capo:
“You basically just said that Ive started a "lynch mob" on Saira yet you seem to be doing the same in regards to Marnie.”

I've not a shred of respect for females like Marnie so people can lynch her all they like on this show as far as I'm concerned.

Prostitution used to be something women did and were ashamed of doing...now females like Marnie make a TV career out of it.
heresitting
29-07-2016
Originally Posted by muggins14:
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That's different - she obviously knows who James Whale is, what he was sacked for and his political affiliations (UKIP). She may even have read headlines such as "BBC presenter accused of ‘racism’ after live radio jibe" and many of us know Whale loves to talk, so she asked him about his views.
”


She said herself that she'd researched the other hm (eg Chloe) so even the briefest of searches on JW would have returned the fact that's he's not racist, but he is secular.

SHE was the one to say that she was representing her community, and she brought that up first. She could find a row in an empty room that one, can't wait to be offended and then milk it for all it's worth.
nanna7
29-07-2016
I liked Nadia this loose women saira not keen at the moment
Miss Con Strue
29-07-2016
Originally Posted by al_capo:
“You basically just said that Ive started a "lynch mob" on Saira yet you seem to be doing the same in regards to Marnie.”

I haven't started an anti-Marnie thread. You started an anti-Saira thread. I am just responding about what I have seen. After a few more episodes I may think Saira is an awful, moany baggage and Marnie is a sweetie. At the moment I am seeing Marnie as an inappropriate trollop, incapable of observing social etiquette and Saira as a bright, opinionated woman, capable of observing social etiquette.
cah
29-07-2016
I've not warmed to her at all ,from what we've seen of her so far ..she seems far to fond of the sound of her own voice ....
Alrightmate
29-07-2016
Up herself.
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