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Old 10-11-2016, 08:13
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Tuesday 22 November on TV3

Monaco v Tottenham Hotspur- Tommy Martin is joined by Graeme Souness and Keith Andrews to present. Commentary by David McIntyre and Kevin Kilbane.
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Old 10-11-2016, 11:37
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Old 10-11-2016, 13:27
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Old 10-11-2016, 13:47
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This whole issue touches an aspect of the BBC/BT FA Cup broadcasting arrangement I've found slightly questionable, namely the balance of power between the broadcasters asking for high levels of access and the non-league clubs having the ability to accept or decline them as they see fit.
Yes, although of course last season we had FC United complaining about being chosen to be on television, and then Eastleigh complaining when they weren't chosen to be on television. So the broadcasters can't win whatever they do.

You don't want to say the broadcasters have paid the money so the clubs can lump it, but of course they're not covering it out of the goodness of their hearts, they want something in return. I enjoy the BT Conference coverage because of the access-all-areas approach, and I think it can be hugely valuable. The other week when BT were at Solihull Moors, it felt like it was the biggest day in their history and they were able to showcase themselves to the nation. That's far more appealing to the audience than just treating it as any other match, and I think more valuable in promoting the clubs.

What were the circumstances of this though? I found a clip of it on Twitter but it wasn't a live game so was it shown as part of Final Score or something? If so, it was probably more in line with when it was convenient for the broadcaster to approach him as part of their schedule as opposed to waiting for a convenient moment like a break in play as they would've looked to do if it was a live game. This wouldn't have helped matters.
It was indeed during Final Score, one of the nine matches they were dipping in and out of during the afternoon. But I can't imagine Westley wouldn't be aware of Clemmit and his role, this approach goes back nearly a decade with Setanta in 2007 and it seems popular among those involved and Clemmit is respected in the game. Also as well I'm sure Westley will know, at that level, managing is often just as much a PR job as a coaching one, you do have to represent the club all over the place.

One other point, mind, is that I'm almost always going to side with Clemmit in this scenario because I don't really like Graham Westley that much.
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Old 10-11-2016, 15:28
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Yes, although of course last season we had FC United complaining about being chosen to be on television, and then Eastleigh complaining when they weren't chosen to be on television. So the broadcasters can't win whatever they do.

You don't want to say the broadcasters have paid the money so the clubs can lump it, but of course they're not covering it out of the goodness of their hearts, they want something in return. I enjoy the BT Conference coverage because of the access-all-areas approach, and I think it can be hugely valuable. The other week when BT were at Solihull Moors, it felt like it was the biggest day in their history and they were able to showcase themselves to the nation. That's far more appealing to the audience than just treating it as any other match, and I think more valuable in promoting the clubs.
And they are getting it, the football
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Old 10-11-2016, 15:43
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It was indeed during Final Score, one of the nine matches they were dipping in and out of during the afternoon. But I can't imagine Westley wouldn't be aware of Clemmit and his role, this approach goes back nearly a decade with Setanta in 2007 and it seems popular among those involved and Clemmit is respected in the game. Also as well I'm sure Westley will know, at that level, managing is often just as much a PR job as a coaching one, you do have to represent the club all over the place.

One other point, mind, is that I'm almost always going to side with Clemmit in this scenario because I don't really like Graham Westley that much.
I don't doubt that he knew who he was, it's just a matter of whether he was expecting to be approached at that moment in time. He may have thought that because it wasn't a live game on TV that he was "safe" and he wouldn't have to deal with Clemmit or anyone else until after the final whistle.

I can't bring myself to watch the clip again. It is too awkward.
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Old 10-11-2016, 19:41
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Losing Collymore was a double edged sword, a well known and in certain places, well respected broadcaster but also a loose cannon. There doesn't seem to have been a direct repacelemt either, so a "Look we've lost Stan but in comes great new person X" which means the focus is all on Stan leaving rather than a publicised replacement. (I know people are doing his job but there's not been a direct replacement which was publicised).
I think talkSPORT were quite smart in the way they replaced Stan Collymore. They have picked up at least one direct replacement in Stuart Pearce, who stepped into his shoes when he left midway through Euro 2016 and has become Sam Matterface's regular co-commentator on Saturday nights. On Sundays, while they've used a few different co-commentators with Jim Proudfoot (who has replaced Matterface as their commentator on that day) it's increasingly looking like Ray Houghton will eventually (or already has) become their regular on that day.

But with Stan not having dominated their co-commentaries outside of weekend Premier League games for a number of years, it was always going to be a lot easier for them to replace him in that area than on their weekend post-match phone-ins - and with that, rather than bring in a direct replacement they've decided to extend existing shows; with Danny Kelly's hours being brought forward on Saturday nights and their Sunday live match presenter Mark Saggers now hosting the phone-in from 4-6pm on that day. I think doing this is a clever move as it would have been a really tough ask to be "the new Stan" on their phone-ins, so just having existing staff already ensconced in their schedule assuming the mantle goes some way to play down his exit.

So while they've done as best as they can to transition into life after him, I actually think Stan Collymore is a big loss to talkSPORT. I know he carries with him a lot of personal baggage, but as a professional co-commentator and phone-in host he does have a lot of strengths. He clearly does far more preparation before games than the vast majority of other co-commentators do; he is usually armed with a cribsheet of stats that most lead commentators would be proud of. And as a phone-in host, he clearly energised and attracted an audience that few other after-match anchors have been able to, certainly those who'd come before him on talkSPORT anyway. It'll be interesting to see if we see or hear Stan on other mainstream national outlets these days (I know he guest hosted 606 the other week and still has his Mirror column) on top of his independent Call Collymore phone-in that he's looking to syndicate widely, having got a local station in Manchester and SiriusXM in the US on board already.
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Old 10-11-2016, 19:56
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Thursday 10th November - BT Sport 1

Live Under-21 International: England Under-21s v Italy Under-21s

Darrell Currie presenting from pitchside at St Mary's Stadium alongside Trevor Sinclair and Chris Sutton

Commentators: Peter Drury and Kevin Davies

Reporter: Andy May
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Old 11-11-2016, 09:14
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Old 11-11-2016, 10:23
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Old 11-11-2016, 14:04
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With Boxnation signing a deal with BT hope we get Ian darke doing boxing again
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Old 11-11-2016, 14:59
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With Boxnation signing a deal with BT hope we get Ian darke doing boxing again
I hope too

But I think its more john rawling, dave farrar or ronald mcintosh
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Old 11-11-2016, 15:35
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I hope too

But I think its more john rawling, dave farrar or ronald mcintosh
Your proberly right but If BT chose to they could go back to Sky boxing of the 90's

Presenter Paul Dempsey
Commentary by Ian Darke & Glenn McCrory
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Old 11-11-2016, 19:15
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ITV ditching their normal England intro for a special England V Scotland version.
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Old 11-11-2016, 19:38
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LIVE International Football - FIFA World Cup 2018 Qualifier (ITV)
England v Scotland

Mark Pougatch presenting from Wembley Stadium, joined by Lee Dixon, Ian Wright, Ally McCoist and Ryan Giggs, with Gabriel Clarke reporting.

Commentators - Clive Tyldesley, Glenn Hoddle & Kevin Gallacher
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Old 11-11-2016, 20:06
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LIVE International Football - FIFA World Cup 2018 Qualifier (ITV)
England v Scotland

Mark Pougatch presenting from Wembley Stadium, joined by Lee Dixon, Ian Wright, Ally McCoist and Ryan Giggs, with Gabriel Clarke reporting.

Commentators - Clive Tyldesley, Glenn Hoddle & Kevin Gallacher
On STV it's Raman Bhardwaj presenting from Wembley, with Kenny Miller, Chris Sutton and Gary McAllister.

Commentary from Derek Rae and Gary McAllister.
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Old 11-11-2016, 20:42
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Credit where it's due. ITV's half time analysis has been excellent. Some really good discussion and the four of them have worked well together without talking over one another with the limited air time at half time. McCoist is a fantastic pundit.
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Old 11-11-2016, 20:48
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great to see Ed Chamberlin again on the advert for Horse Racing coming to ITV
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Old 11-11-2016, 21:05
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France v Sweden - Sky Sports 3.

Commentators: Ian Crocker and David Prutton

San Marino v Germany - Sky Sports Mix.

Commentators: Rob Palmer and Terry Gibson

From Earlier:

Armenia v Montenegro - Sky Sports 1.

Commentators: Kevin Keatings and Garry Birtles
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Old 11-11-2016, 21:33
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LIVE International Football - FIFA World Cup 2018 Qualifier (ITV)
England v Scotland

Mark Pougatch presenting from Wembley Stadium, joined by Lee Dixon, Ian Wright, Ally McCoist and Ryan Giggs, with Gabriel Clarke reporting.

Commentators - Clive Tyldesley, Glenn Hoddle & Kevin Gallacher
Peter Drury is providing commentary on the Eng v Sco match for somebody.

There's a clip on YouTube which alerted me to this, but no clue to for whom he's working; any ideas?
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Old 11-11-2016, 21:34
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Peter Drury is providing commentary on the Eng v Sco match for somebody.

There's a clip on YouTube which alerted me to this, but no clue to for whom he's working; any ideas?
It'll be for the international feed.
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Old 11-11-2016, 21:40
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Peter Drury is providing commentary on the Eng v Sco match for somebody.

There's a clip on YouTube which alerted me to this, but no clue to for whom he's working; any ideas?
it was the world feed; Phil Neville was his co-commentator for that one
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Old 11-11-2016, 21:48
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On STV it's Raman Bhardwaj presenting from Wembley, with Kenny Miller, Chris Sutton and Gary McAllister.

Commentary from Derek Rae and Gary McAllister.
Sheelagh McLaren is their reporter in the tunnel. Also taking some of the ITV ones.
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Old 11-11-2016, 21:49
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Thanks, Mark. and flipxside!
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Old 11-11-2016, 21:59
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ITV 3 man team worked well this evening. Good commentary and excellent punditry. Dixon and McCoist are fantastic.
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