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Sky have cut to adverts twice during the Peterborough v Bolton match.
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Irn Bru Cup,Quarter Final: St Mirren v Ayr United (Premier Sports)
Commentators: Rory Hamilton and Michael Stewart. Mark Benstead reporting at The Paisley 2021 Stadium. Irn Bru Cup, Quarter Final: Livingston v The New Saints (4:05pm) (BBC ALBA) Calum Macaulay to present coverage from The Tony Macaroni Arena with Mark Wilson. Commentator: Alex O'Henley |
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Following on from my previous post, I can see that the person in question has already gone back and entered the necessary info. Awesome, thank you. You know who you are!
This system has worked well for keeping track of broadcasting info for games going forward, it is just the issue of going back and covering games from earlier on in the season which has proved tricky. However, happily - we've managed to now get all of that covered, for the most part anyway. The only info we haven't got is for a few pre-season friendlies involving Liverpool and Chelsea on their respective TV channels. Personally, I could live without not knowing those details but it would nevertheless be nice to see a zero against the "no data" category! |
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Sky as ever having issues when they put games close together.
The Peterborough-Bolton match only just finished at around 2.10pm meaning George Gavin barely had a chance to say 'Bye' before they had to move the coverage over to Sky Sports 2 for a match that was due to start 5 minutes after. I've sure Steve Williams has mentioned on here before that whenever they seem to schedule lots of sport back-to-back, games inevitably seem to take ages to finish. |
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Didn't realise your website was a open style edit. Risky when you have serial guessers like Subaru on here who try and make it up as they go along!
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Excuse me.. I don't make up things on Scout's website.
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Didn't realise your website was a open style edit. Risky when you have serial guessers like Subaru on here who try and make it up as they go along!
I don't just accept the first thing that's put in there for any given game at face value. For the most part, I see these games myself so I am able to verify whether the data that has been entered is correct or not. For the matches I don't see, I usually give it a few hours or even days to give people the chance to review it themselves. That's why I say make use of the notes field for such instances that a match didn't have the traditional assignment of a presenter, guest or reporter. It shows me that you haven't just entered what you know and left the rest. If all seems OK, I'll accept it - otherwise I don't and make the relevant queries until the answer is found. As odd as it is for me to see data added several hours in advance before a game kicks off, if it turns out to be wrong, someone else will come along and correct it, or add in the missing information. I don't have an issue with people adding info well in advance as long as they don't mark it as complete, because that's just silly. Even if a lineup has been publicised in advance, that could still change at the last minute for any number of reasons. Anyway, once I know or believe something to be correct, it gets locked down from further editing. This achieves some form of quality assurance and preserves the info from being sabotaged later down the line by any anonymous rogue operatives. ![]() I have to say though that without knowing the identities of the regular contributors to the data hub, you guys do a great job of managing the data yourselves. It certainly makes my job easier. Thank you all.
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So why do it here?
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Can you post a link to your website please Scout
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Didn't catch the England/Scotland game (and the ratings actually for it are surprisingly low at 4.8 million - though excluding HD/+1 etc.) so can't comment too much on the coverage but I have always enjoyed Ally McCoist as a pundit and was surprised until now that since leaving Rangers he only popped up on some of the BT Red Button commentaries and little else.
The Ally 'n' Andy partnership was probably the time I liked Andy Townsend the best and while neither are necessarily the best analysts I always felt they made the broadcasts enjoyable. I'd happily see more of Ally McCoist. But as you say, he was very prominent on ITV in the past. Of course they poached him from the BBC, where he'd started in punditry and did the McCoist And Macaulay show which started on BBC Scotland and was then networked for some reason. I always thought it was odd how they let him carry on his Question of Sport role long after he joined ITV - I remember they showed an episode during the Beeb's build-up to the Euro 2000 Final, so he was on both channels at once. That said, Ally was involved in the awful banter fest that was the early days of The Premiership. And of course we had that set-up in 2005/06 with Gabby alone in the studio and Andy and Ally pitchside, which was the most bizarre idea, a bit like Football League Tonight and the early days of BT in that they were clearly looking for a way to present football on telly nobody else did, without realising why nobody else did it. It was such a baffling concept. Presumably it was because the bosses just didn't fancy Gabby and wanted to have her on screen less. I remember during that season they also did a scorecard at the end of the match, marks out of ten for each player like in the papers, which is surely the most untelevisual concept, a long list of names and numbers. A bizarre period. Quote:
Sky have cut to adverts twice during the Peterborough v Bolton match.
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Sky as ever having issues when they put games close together.
The Peterborough-Bolton match only just finished at around 2.10pm meaning George Gavin barely had a chance to say 'Bye' before they had to move the coverage over to Sky Sports 2 for a match that was due to start 5 minutes after. I've sure Steve Williams has mentioned on here before that whenever they seem to schedule lots of sport back-to-back, games inevitably seem to take ages to finish. Anyway, just to get everything together, here are all the home nations from this weekend... England vs Scotland - Introduced by Mark Pougatch with Lee Dixon, Ryan Giggs, Ally McCoist and Ian Wright, commentary by Clive Tyldesley, Glenn Hoddle and Kevin Gallacher Northern Ireland vs Azerbaijan - Introduced by Dave Jones with Iain Dowie, commentary by Daniel Mann and Gerry Armstrong Austria vs Ireland - Introduced by Simon Thomas with Niall Quinn and Dean Saunders, commentary by Rob Hawthorne and Ray Houghton Wales vs Serbia - Introduced by Simon Thomas with Niall Quinn and Dean Saunders, commentary by Bill Leslie and Barry Horne And the domestic football... Swindon vs Charlton - Introduced by George Gavin with Ian Holloway and David Prutton, commentary by Gary Weaver and Don Goodman Woking vs North Ferriby - Introduced by Matt Smith with Kevin Davies and Chris Hargreaves, commentary by Adam Summerton and Adam Virgo The Football League on Sky Sports - Introduced by George Gavin with Peter Beagrie and Matt Taylor, Peterborough vs Bolton commentary by Rob Palmer and Garry Birtles, Chesterfield vs Sheff U commentary by Gary Weaver and Danny Higginbotham Nice to hear Palmer in his regular Sunday-at-twelve-on-an-international-weekend spot, look forward to hearing him again in March. This weekend wasn't the first time Kevin Gallacher has been on ITV, of course, during the 2009/10 season when ITV had all the FA Cup and four live matches in each round, he did a couple of matches then. ITV used loads of co-commentators that season, actually. |
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Luxembourg v Netherlands- Simon Brotherton
Cyprus v Gibraltar- Gary Taphouse |
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Egypt v Ghana - BT Sport 1.
Commentators: Jonathan Pearce and Efan Ekoku Irn Bru Cup Quarter Final: Livingston v The New Saints (S4C) Dylan Ebenezer presenting with Owain Tudur Jones. Geraint Hardy reporting. Commentators: (Welsh) Nic Parry and Malcolm Allen Commentators: English) Mark Jones and Marc Lloyd Williams |
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World Cup 2018 Qualifier - Luxembourg v Netherlands:
Sky Sports 4 - Ian Crocker and Don Goodman World Cup 2018 Qualifiers (Sky Sports 4 Red Button): Bulgaria v Belarus - Kevin Keatings Cyprus v Gibraltar - Gary Taphouse Hungary v Andorra - Paul Walker Switzerland v Faroe Islands - Alistair Mann |
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I'm not trying to make thing up here either, I post what I see on TV and based on information on Twitter. I don't make it up for the sake of making it up.
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The other night S4C and Alba both covered the same rugby match and both had (the same) English commentary on the red button, yet this afternoon both covered the Livingston v TNS game but only S4C had an English alternative.
Do Alba ever offer an English commentary on their football games or do they just choose not to or is it a rights issue that prevents them from doing so? |
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The other night S4C and Alba both covered the same rugby match and both had (the same) English commentary on the red button, yet this afternoon both covered the Livingston v TNS game but only S4C had an English alternative.
Do Alba ever offer an English commentary on their football games or do they just choose not to or is it a rights issue that prevents them from doing so? The S4C reporter did pop up on BBC Alba talking to the presenter in English at half time.. |
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World Cup 2018 Qualifier - Portugal v Latvia (ITV4):
Jacqui Oatley presenting with Paulo Sousa and Glenn Hoddle. Commentators - Sam Matterface and Andy Townsend World Cup 2018 Qualifier - Belgium v Estonia: Sky Sports 1 - Daniel Mann and David Prutton World Cup 2018 Qualifier - Greece v Bosnia-Herzegovina: Sky Sports 1 Red Button - John Roder |
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A quick question but I wonder if Sky's Super Sunday coverage will get moved to Sky Sports 2 on November 27th to allow the title-deciding F1 finale in Abu Dhabi to simulcast on Sky Sports 1? The moved Chesterfield V Sheffield United to Sky Sports 2 last-minute to accommodate F1 on Sky Sports 1 so I wonder if they will do the same?
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You cant always believe what you read on Twitter. If it said Sunderland vs West Brom is presented by Phillip Schofield with punditry from Tony Blair, AP McCoy and Jeremy Clarkson with commentary from Chas & Dave. It wouldnt mean automatically take it as the serious team would it. That is why it is just better to wait until it is officially confirmed during the broadcast itself.
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A quick question but I wonder if Sky's Super Sunday coverage will get moved to Sky Sports 2 on November 27th to allow the title-deciding F1 finale in Abu Dhabi to simulcast on Sky Sports 1? The moved Chesterfield V Sheffield United to Sky Sports 2 last-minute to accommodate F1 on Sky Sports 1 so I wonder if they will do the same?
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Minutes later...
That isn't a 'quick' question... That is you fishing out a theory of complete speculation of the fantasy schedule book and asking for some more fantasy musings. |
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God sake, am I not allowed to ask a question now?
They might. They might not. Wait and see. Not much else chat to come from it. |
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The answer is almost certainly no, I'd have thought, but a three-line enquiry* that can't have taken more than 30 seconds to type probably does count as a quick question.
*that may depend on the device you're using to read this, granted |
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Sky have cut to adverts twice during the Peterborough v Bolton match.
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Yes, showing the Screwfix break bumper on both occasions, plus a trailer on the first occasion and half an advert on the second. And, unless I missed it, not a single apology..
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That said, Ally was involved in the awful banter fest that was the early days of The Premiership. And of course we had that set-up in 2005/06 with Gabby alone in the studio and Andy and Ally pitchside, which was the most bizarre idea, a bit like Football League Tonight and the early days of BT in that they were clearly looking for a way to present football on telly nobody else did, without realising why nobody else did it. It was such a baffling concept.
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Presumably it was because the bosses just didn't fancy Gabby and wanted to have her on screen less.
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Nice to hear Palmer in his regular Sunday-at-twelve-on-an-international-weekend spot, look forward to hearing him again in March.
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The Peterborough-Bolton match only just finished at around 2.10pm meaning George Gavin barely had a chance to say 'Bye' before they had to move the coverage over to Sky Sports 2 for a match that was due to start 5 minutes after.
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Sunday 13th November - ITV
FIFA World Cup 2018 European Qualifiers Highlights Jacqui Oatley presented alongside Ian Rush and Glenn Hoddle England v Scotland (Friday) - Clive Tyldesley, Glenn Hoddle and Kevin Gallacher, with Gabriel Clarke and Sheelagh McLaren conducting interviews Austria v Republic of Ireland (Saturday) - David Stowell, with Tony O'Donoghue (as RTE) conducting interviews Wales v Serbia (Saturday) - Jon Champion, with Nick Hartley conducting interviews Northern Ireland v Azerbaijan (Friday) - Joe Speight, with Ruth Gorman conducting interviews Portugal v Latvia - Sam Matterface and Andy Townsend Round-ups - Sue Thearle (Groups F, A & I), Tom Skippings (D, H & E) and Richard Henwood (C, B & G) |
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