Oh dear... Imagine if it was ITV!

Irn Bru Cup,Quarter Final: St Mirren v Ayr United (Premier Sports)

Commentators: Rory Hamilton and Michael Stewart.

Mark Benstead reporting at The Paisley 2021 Stadium.

Irn Bru Cup, Quarter Final: Livingston v The New Saints (4:05pm) (BBC ALBA)

Calum Macaulay to present coverage from The Tony Macaroni Arena with Mark Wilson.

Commentator: Alex O'Henley

Didn't realise your website was a open style edit. Risky when you have serial guessers like Subaru on here who try and make it up as they go along!

Sky as ever having issues when they put games close together.

The Peterborough-Bolton match only just finished at around 2.10pm meaning George Gavin barely had a chance to say 'Bye' before they had to move the coverage over to Sky Sports 2 for a match that was due to start 5 minutes after.

I've sure Steve Williams has mentioned on here before that whenever they seem to schedule lots of sport back-to-back, games inevitably seem to take ages to finish.

Excuse me.. I don't make up things on Scout's website.

So why do it here?

It is editable by anyone but it's not as much of an issue as you might think..

I don't just accept the first thing that's put in there for any given game at face value. For the most part, I see these games myself so I am able to verify whether the data that has been entered is correct or not. For the matches I don't see, I usually give it a few hours or even days to give people the chance to review it themselves. That's why I say make use of the notes field for such instances that a match didn't have the traditional assignment of a presenter, guest or reporter. It shows me that you haven't just entered what you know and left the rest. If all seems OK, I'll accept it - otherwise I don't and make the relevant queries until the answer is found.

As odd as it is for me to see data added several hours in advance before a game kicks off, if it turns out to be wrong, someone else will come along and correct it, or add in the missing information. I don't have an issue with people adding info well in advance as long as they don't mark it as complete, because that's just silly. Even if a lineup has been publicised in advance, that could still change at the last minute for any number of reasons.

Anyway, once I know or believe something to be correct, it gets locked down from further editing. This achieves some form of quality assurance and preserves the info from being sabotaged later down the line by any anonymous rogue operatives.

I have to say though that without knowing the identities of the regular contributors to the data hub, you guys do a great job of managing the data yourselves. It certainly makes my job easier. Thank you all.

I'm not trying to make thing up here either, I post what I see on TV and based on information on Twitter. I don't make it up for the sake of making it up.

Can you post a link to your website please Scout

http://commentators.myclubontv.co.uk/

Well, as I said when he started showing up on the red button on BT, Ally McCoist had gone from punditing on the first choice Champions League match, to co-commentating on the eighth choice. I guess it's a bit of a damaged goods scenario, much like Terry Venables, in that they gave up full-time punditry to go into management (or back into management, in Venables' case) and didn't do very well, losing them a bit of credibility.

But as you say, he was very prominent on ITV in the past. Of course they poached him from the BBC, where he'd started in punditry and did the McCoist And Macaulay show which started on BBC Scotland and was then networked for some reason. I always thought it was odd how they let him carry on his Question of Sport role long after he joined ITV - I remember they showed an episode during the Beeb's build-up to the Euro 2000 Final, so he was on both channels at once.

That said, Ally was involved in the awful banter fest that was the early days of The Premiership. And of course we had that set-up in 2005/06 with Gabby alone in the studio and Andy and Ally pitchside, which was the most bizarre idea, a bit like Football League Tonight and the early days of BT in that they were clearly looking for a way to present football on telly nobody else did, without realising why nobody else did it. It was such a baffling concept. Presumably it was because the bosses just didn't fancy Gabby and wanted to have her on screen less. I remember during that season they also did a scorecard at the end of the match, marks out of ten for each player like in the papers, which is surely the most untelevisual concept, a long list of names and numbers. A bizarre period.


Yes, showing the Screwfix break bumper on both occasions, plus a trailer on the first occasion and half an advert on the second. And, unless I missed it, not a single apology.


Indeed I have, whenever they cram these matches in they always seem to have loads of injury time. Of course this is the issue with having matches kick off at 12.15 and 2.15, which has also been the case in the last two international breaks, and I don't know why they do it when there's nothing live before or after it. Why not start the first game at 12, or the second game at 2.30? And we had the other issue this time round with the channel change, which only came about so they can simulcast the Grand Prix on SS1. I notice they promoted the second match as being on SS1 during the match, which illustrates the level of care and attention lavished on this broadcast.

Anyway, just to get everything together, here are all the home nations from this weekend...

England vs Scotland - Introduced by Mark Pougatch with Lee Dixon, Ryan Giggs, Ally McCoist and Ian Wright, commentary by Clive Tyldesley, Glenn Hoddle and Kevin Gallacher
Northern Ireland vs Azerbaijan - Introduced by Dave Jones with Iain Dowie, commentary by Daniel Mann and Gerry Armstrong
Austria vs Ireland - Introduced by Simon Thomas with Niall Quinn and Dean Saunders, commentary by Rob Hawthorne and Ray Houghton
Wales vs Serbia - Introduced by Simon Thomas with Niall Quinn and Dean Saunders, commentary by Bill Leslie and Barry Horne

And the domestic football...

Swindon vs Charlton - Introduced by George Gavin with Ian Holloway and David Prutton, commentary by Gary Weaver and Don Goodman
Woking vs North Ferriby - Introduced by Matt Smith with Kevin Davies and Chris Hargreaves, commentary by Adam Summerton and Adam Virgo
The Football League on Sky Sports - Introduced by George Gavin with Peter Beagrie and Matt Taylor, Peterborough vs Bolton commentary by Rob Palmer and Garry Birtles, Chesterfield vs Sheff U commentary by Gary Weaver and Danny Higginbotham

Nice to hear Palmer in his regular Sunday-at-twelve-on-an-international-weekend spot, look forward to hearing him again in March. This weekend wasn't the first time Kevin Gallacher has been on ITV, of course, during the 2009/10 season when ITV had all the FA Cup and four live matches in each round, he did a couple of matches then. ITV used loads of co-commentators that season, actually.

Luxembourg v Netherlands- Simon Brotherton
Cyprus v Gibraltar- Gary Taphouse

Egypt v Ghana - BT Sport 1.

Commentators: Jonathan Pearce and Efan Ekoku

Irn Bru Cup Quarter Final: Livingston v The New Saints (S4C)

Dylan Ebenezer presenting with Owain Tudur Jones. Geraint Hardy reporting.

Commentators: (Welsh) Nic Parry and Malcolm Allen
Commentators: English) Mark Jones and Marc Lloyd Williams

World Cup 2018 Qualifier - Luxembourg v Netherlands:

Sky Sports 4 - Ian Crocker and Don Goodman



World Cup 2018 Qualifiers (Sky Sports 4 Red Button):

Bulgaria v Belarus - Kevin Keatings
Cyprus v Gibraltar - Gary Taphouse
Hungary v Andorra - Paul Walker
Switzerland v Faroe Islands - Alistair Mann

You cant always believe what you read on Twitter. If it said Sunderland vs West Brom is presented by Phillip Schofield with punditry from Tony Blair, AP McCoy and Jeremy Clarkson with commentary from Chas & Dave. It wouldnt mean automatically take it as the serious team would it. That is why it is just better to wait until it is officially confirmed during the broadcast itself.

The other night S4C and Alba both covered the same rugby match and both had (the same) English commentary on the red button, yet this afternoon both covered the Livingston v TNS game but only S4C had an English alternative.

Do Alba ever offer an English commentary on their football games or do they just choose not to or is it a rights issue that prevents them from doing so?

No, they only ever do English for their rugby..
The S4C reporter did pop up on BBC Alba talking to the presenter in English at half time..

World Cup 2018 Qualifier - Portugal v Latvia (ITV4):

Jacqui Oatley presenting with Paulo Sousa and Glenn Hoddle.

Commentators - Sam Matterface and Andy Townsend



World Cup 2018 Qualifier - Belgium v Estonia:

Sky Sports 1 - Daniel Mann and David Prutton



World Cup 2018 Qualifier - Greece v Bosnia-Herzegovina:

Sky Sports 1 Red Button - John Roder

A quick question but I wonder if Sky's Super Sunday coverage will get moved to Sky Sports 2 on November 27th to allow the title-deciding F1 finale in Abu Dhabi to simulcast on Sky Sports 1? The moved Chesterfield V Sheffield United to Sky Sports 2 last-minute to accommodate F1 on Sky Sports 1 so I wonder if they will do the same?

Minutes later...


That isn't a 'quick' question... That is you fishing out a theory of complete speculation of the fantasy schedule book and asking for some more fantasy musings.

God sake, am I not allowed to ask a question now?

"F1 moved to SS1 now and again... let's get the predictions if you think they will do it again?"

They might. They might not. Wait and see. Not much else chat to come from it.

The answer is almost certainly no, I'd have thought, but a three-line enquiry* that can't have taken more than 30 seconds to type probably does count as a quick question.

*that may depend on the device you're using to read this, granted

It was three times actually. Twice in quick succession and then again a few minutes later!


Nope, don't think they acknowledged their repeated foul ups in any way. They must have been going under the assumption that nobody was watching therefore nobody would notice. The same logic which saw the work experience boys put on this match in the first place. "Say, I wonder what this button does?"


I was going through an old VHS tape the other day and found a recording of a match on ITV with Ally and Andy standing pitchside with their little table. It was odd. Like you say, Gabby was alone in the studio.


That's the wrong phrase to use in this instance as there wouldn't have been anyone who didn't fancy Gabby, if you know what I'm saying.


I found it odd that he immediately dismissed what was more than a decent strike by the Peterborough player for the goal as being down to the keeper.


The programme ended precisely 40 seconds after the final whistle.

Sunday 13th November - ITV

FIFA World Cup 2018 European Qualifiers Highlights

Jacqui Oatley presented alongside Ian Rush and Glenn Hoddle

England v Scotland (Friday) - Clive Tyldesley, Glenn Hoddle and Kevin Gallacher, with Gabriel Clarke and Sheelagh McLaren conducting interviews
Austria v Republic of Ireland (Saturday) - David Stowell, with Tony O'Donoghue (as RTE) conducting interviews
Wales v Serbia (Saturday) - Jon Champion, with Nick Hartley conducting interviews
Northern Ireland v Azerbaijan (Friday) - Joe Speight, with Ruth Gorman conducting interviews
Portugal v Latvia - Sam Matterface and Andy Townsend

Round-ups - Sue Thearle (Groups F, A & I), Tom Skippings (D, H & E) and Richard Henwood (C, B & G)