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Old 07-08-2016, 12:12
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St Johnstone v Aberdeen - BT Sport 1.

Darrell Currie presenting from McDiarmid Park with John Sutton, Jonny Hayes and Stephen Craigan.

Commentators: Derek Rae and Chris Sutton.
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Old 07-08-2016, 12:14
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Football on 5 - 6 August 2016

George Riley and Lynsey Hipgrave with Michael Gray and Chris Iwelumo in the studio.

Nottingham Forest v Burton Albion - Paul Walker
Fulham v Newcastle United (Fri) - Daniel Mann & Andy Hinchcliffe

Championship roundups: Dave Beckett, Dan O'Hagan, Dan Mason, Faye Carruthers
Michael Gray voiced Blackburn v Norwich and Chris Iwelumo voiced Rotherham v Wolves

L1 roundups: Dan O'Hagan, Dan Mason, Nick Halling, Jack Woodward, Faye Carruthers, Dave Beckett

L2 roundups: Dan Mason, Faye Carruthers, Dan O'Hagan, Jack Woodward, Dave Beckett, Nick Halling


Two voices not previously heard on the C5 highlights show among the reporters, Nick Halling (ex voice of the NFL, used to be on the Football League Show in the early days of that programme) and Jack Woodward (ex Aston Villa TV commentator). Faye Carruthers is also more of a Final Score regular but she was heard maybe 2 or 3 times on Football League Tonight last season.

This isn't a "overstaffing" moan/rant but just an observation. 6 voiceover people for L1 and L2 is ridiculously unnecessary? 2 or 3 could do it aurely?
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Old 07-08-2016, 12:23
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Great to see Neville back. Seems a bit bizarre he won't be doing every MNF considering how highly regarded he is on it and how much he seemed to enjoy doing the show - I can only imagine it's due to the time commitment involved given Neville's other business interests.

Will be interesting to see if Neville is used slightly less overall or if he'll still often be on twice a weekend. I hope they use him more in a studio capacity, particularly if he's not on all MNFs, as I think that's where he was missed most last season and is his best role.

I'd hope Neville would still do a high proportion of MNFs and that their guest selection is better this season than it was last.
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Old 07-08-2016, 12:25
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Sky Sports News just announced that Gary Nevile is returning - and confirmed Jeff Stelling and Rachel Riley as the new team on Friday Night Football.

Full details: http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...st-ever-season
Beyond Neville being a 'guest pundit' on MNF, a couple of points:

- Guests on FNF will be 'from inside and outside the world of sport'. An indication I think that this will be the 'entertainment' style show.

- Niall Quinn is a pundit 'in the studio' for all of the live Sat 3pm games in Ireland. That rules him out of appearing on the Sat 12.30pm games, although the wording suggests to me presentation won't be on-site so he could certainly appear regularly in some capacity on FNF and Super Sunday.
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Old 07-08-2016, 12:26
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This isn't a "overstaffing" moan/rant but just an observation. 6 voiceover people for L1 and L2 is ridiculously unnecessary? 2 or 3 could do it aurely?
I've no idea on the precise practicalities but presumably getting scripts researched, written, edited and voiced for the best part of 36 matches in fewer than four hours is a logistical challenge?
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Old 07-08-2016, 12:30
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Beyond Neville being a 'guest pundit' on MNF, a couple of points:

- Guests on FNF will be 'from inside and outside the world of sport'. An indication I think that this will be the 'entertainment' style show.

- Niall Quinn is a pundit 'in the studio' for all of the live Sat 3pm games in Ireland. That rules him out of appearing on the Sat 12.30pm games, although the wording suggests to me presentation won't be on-site so he could certainly appear regularly in some capacity on FNF and Super Sunday.
Regarding the last point we know McQueen will be presenting what I still call Football First so we can safely say it won't be on-site I think.

Wonder how highly they'll rate the 3pm live game in terms of allocating commentators.
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Old 07-08-2016, 12:37
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New set of graphics on BT Sport from today for the West Ham friendly
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Old 07-08-2016, 12:43
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New set of graphics on BT Sport from today for the West Ham friendly
They look slicker. I hope they get rid of that bloody "together as one" intro for the Premier League seen as it's a new set of rights and everything.

Oh and it's Chris Hollins with Harry Redknapp and Dean Ashton on the Olympic Stadium. Ian Darke on commentary though not sure on co comm yet.

EDIT: It is John Hartson as co-comm.
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Old 07-08-2016, 12:54
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Who is on EFL for Sky today?
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Old 07-08-2016, 13:03
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Who is on EFL for Sky today?
Weaver and Goodman commentating. I didn't catch the studio team.
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Old 07-08-2016, 13:08
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Weaver and Goodman commentating. I didn't catch the studio team.
Scott Minto with David Prutton and Ian Holloway. Presentation of both games today from Hillsborough.
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Old 07-08-2016, 13:09
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This isn't a "overstaffing" moan/rant but just an observation. 6 voiceover people for L1 and L2 is ridiculously unnecessary? 2 or 3 could do it aurely?
You try writing it!

It's a hell of a lot to look at, study, research, write and record with that number of matches.
And the pictures aren't necessarily ready to view and edit when you are!

They don't ad-lib it, you know!
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Old 07-08-2016, 13:16
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I've no idea on the precise practicalities but presumably getting scripts researched, written, edited and voiced for the best part of 36 matches in fewer than four hours is a logistical challenge?
Sorry, Readingfan, I read JBO's post before I read yours!

Double whammy for you, JBO!

When I did the Football League round-ups on Sunday morning for BT/BBC website, the guys writing the scripts for myself and other presenters to come in to read would be working on them all night!

I'm presuming the Channel 5 round up guys do their own, and that's quite a slog!
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Old 07-08-2016, 13:26
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From earlier:

Dutch Eredivisie - Groningen v Feyenoord:

Sky Sports 5 - Joe Speight and Tony Cascarino



Now:

Dutch Eredivisie - Sparta Rotterdam v Ajax:

Sky Sports 1 Red Button - Dominic Johnson and Gary Breen
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Old 07-08-2016, 13:44
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Great to see Neville back. Seems a bit bizarre he won't be doing every MNF considering how highly regarded he is on it and how much he seemed to enjoy doing the show - I can only imagine it's due to the time commitment involved given Neville's other business interests.

Will be interesting to see if Neville is used slightly less overall or if he'll still often be on twice a weekend. I hope they use him more in a studio capacity, particularly if he's not on all MNFs, as I think that's where he was missed most last season and is his best role.

I'd hope Neville would still do a high proportion of MNFs and that their guest selection is better this season than it was last.
Not everyone rates him as some sort of commentating messiah. I can't stand him.
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Old 07-08-2016, 14:00
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Not everyone rates him as some sort of commentating messiah. I can't stand him.
Then you've probably come on the wrong thread
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Old 07-08-2016, 14:00
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Enjoyed Stelling's dig at BT's new show yesterday - hard to consider it as a credible result service when they miss the first weekend of the season.

Great to see Neville back on Sky. Probably worked out well for Sky in the long-run as reading between the lines I think Neville would have taken a management job this season had Valencia not come up. Will be interesting to hear the length of Neville's Sky contract and whether he'll be there for the long-term or not - I guess if there's the prospect of him leaving again over the next year or two that could explain why he's not returned full-time to MNF.

I can't really see what new Sky projects there are for him to work on but guess we'll have to see.
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Old 07-08-2016, 14:09
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Dont think it has been mentioned on here, but did anybody catch Jeff Stelling, Digging at BT Score yesterday.

If not around 2.30, he came out with well you can go to watch any score programme, but it doesn't start until next week.

It shows there importance it was something like that
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Old 07-08-2016, 14:12
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Heart Of Midlothian v Celtic - Sky Sports 1/5.

David Tanner presenting from Tynecastle with Neil McCann.

Commentators: Ian Crocker and Andy Walker
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Old 07-08-2016, 14:38
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Definitely. Hipgrave does a good job filling in the presenting shoes and the format currently seems to work with 2 decent pundits alongside the 2 presenters. Gray and Iwelumo are solid people to have.
Certainly when you compare with this time last year, the difference is huge.

In other news, Ryan Giggs joining Ferdinand, Humphrey and co for the Community Shield today. Be interesting to see if he becomes BT's big signing this Summer after Neville's Sky return was announced.
If so, thank goodness. I thought BT were running low on ex-Manchester United pundits.

Good to see Gary Neville back on Sky - though (while not wanting to get into this debate again) maybe not wise for Sky to make such a song and dance over it given the Euros.

Saw some of the 'banter' between Gary and Carragher on Twitter suggesting MNF lost 500k of viewers after he left. That can't be right surely?
Even if it's not that much that sounds a pretty big drop - don't quite a few Sky matches get sub 1 million?

If so, surprised Sky are still going with this 'guest' format for MNF. I didn't enjoy it much at the end of last season - guests either weren't used to the format or they often they talked about the guest's career a bit at the expense of the weekend's football.

If it's returning, I hope they limit it mostly to just Sky pundits and a smaller rotating line-up.
Also, while I'll sound a bit of a misery saying this, the whole Sky 'I wonder how I'll wonder how we'll be able to handle them' stuff about Gary and Carragher is irritating me a tad.
They're football pundits who agree about an awful lot - the above makes them sound like they're wrestlers about to hit each with a steel chair each show. It just seems a bit forced.
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Old 07-08-2016, 14:53
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If so, thank goodness. I thought BT were running low on ex-Manchester United pundits.
Haha, I hope they use Scholes a bit more this season though. Last season I think they used him quite a bit at the start and then you didn't see him for about 3-4 months in the middle of the season and BT were even using really random pundits on United matches.
Not sure if it's in his contract that he's not doing it all the time though because he has been quite open that while he doesn't mind doing punditry, he can find it a bit boring.
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Old 07-08-2016, 14:58
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From earlier:

Dutch Eredivisie - Groningen v Feyenoord:

Sky Sports 5 - Joe Speight and Tony Cascarino



Now:

Dutch Eredivisie - Sparta Rotterdam v Ajax:

Sky Sports 1 Red Button - Dominic Johnson and Gary Breen
Joe Speight's commentating on the Arsenal/MC game later today too I think. He must be one of the busiest commentators around.

They look slicker. I hope they get rid of that bloody "together as one" intro for the Premier League seen as it's a new set of rights and everything.

Oh and it's Chris Hollins with Harry Redknapp and Dean Ashton on the Olympic Stadium. Ian Darke on commentary though not sure on co comm yet.

EDIT: It is John Hartson as co-comm.
If the graphics for this game are BT's new graphics, they're good. Very neat - and an improvement from what came before.

I do feel as if I've heard half the nation of Wales commentate on football since the last club season finished.

Chris Hollins - has he presented much for BT before? I know it's pre-season so various unusual personnel often appear and not much should be read into it but surprised to see him there.

Agreed on that 'Together' music. That said I do hope the Sky League Cup music lives on - it's been around since even before the original Commentators thread existed.
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Old 07-08-2016, 15:07
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Beyond Neville being a 'guest pundit' on MNF, a couple of points:

- Guests on FNF will be 'from inside and outside the world of sport'. An indication I think that this will be the 'entertainment' style show.

- Niall Quinn is a pundit 'in the studio' for all of the live Sat 3pm games in Ireland. That rules him out of appearing on the Sat 12.30pm games, although the wording suggests to me presentation won't be on-site so he could certainly appear regularly in some capacity on FNF and Super Sunday.
I'm already awaiting the inevitable Ralph Little and David Haye appearances.

Just seen Rachel Riley is also hosting the 'Fantasy Football Show' which again suggests FNF will be Sky Studios based.
Also slightly off-topic but is there really the need for three presenters on the Fantasy Football Show? Sounds like it'll be Riley, Merson and Rushden - sounds a bit much for an hour-long show.
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Old 07-08-2016, 15:11
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Haha, I hope they use Scholes a bit more this season though. Last season I think they used him quite a bit at the start and then you didn't see him for about 3-4 months in the middle of the season and BT were even using really random pundits on United matches.
Not sure if it's in his contract that he's not doing it all the time though because he has been quite open that while he doesn't mind doing punditry, he can find it a bit boring.
I imagine they'll use Scholes a similar amount to last season. Was surprised he didn't pop up on their CL Final coverage last season - especially as he featured in the adverts.

Oh goodness - Jake Humphrey joined by Michael Owen, Robbie Savage and Rio Ferdinand as pundits for the Community Shield coverage.
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Old 07-08-2016, 15:13
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I imagine they'll use Scholes a similar amount to last season. Was surprised he didn't pop up on their CL Final coverage last season - especially as he featured in the adverts.

Oh goodness - Jake Humphrey joined by Michael Owen, Robbie Savage and Rio Ferdinand for the Community Shield coverage.
Surprised 'Mo' isn't up on the gantry although he might pop up there shortly. Savage is there for Leicester. Not sure what Humphrey was on about plugging Giggs. Unless he's on the commentary

EDIT: Have to admit I'd have been sad had Owen been axed by BT. So long as he's not thrown on virtually every game as he was in the past and he's used more sparsely, I don't mind his appearances on BT too much.
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