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#3626 |
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Don't give BT ideas
![]() Hargreaves is nowhere near aminated enough to hold my attention for 90 mins, the game hasn't been great but let's sound happy to be at the game at least! |
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#3627 |
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Must have been a late change, could have sworn that Prince Charles was co-commentator, Sue Barker must have been an emergency replacement!
That said, Subaru isnt the only one that has misprinted information on this forum so just lay off him. Some of the comments are a bit over the top.
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MUTV's coverage of WBA v Manchester United had Mandy Henry in the Old Trafford studio with Ron Atkinson and Lou Macari.
On live match (radio) commentary from Old Trafford were Adam Sommerton and Sammy McIlroy. And reporting live from The Hawthorns before, after and at half-time were Stewart Gardner and Paddy Crerand, who also did the commentary for the delayed full match TV coverage |
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#3629 |
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Hargreave's has never sounded interested in any game he has commentated on, sorry complete waste of time having him in the commentary box, get him out of there and keep him in the studio where he does come out with decent points and discussions.
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#3630 |
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Saturday 17th December - Channel 5
Football on 5 George Riley and Lynsey Hipgrave presented alongside Chris Iwelumo and Michael Gray Birmingham City v Brighton & Hove Albion - Gary Weaver and Danny Higginbotham, with Jonathan Oakes conducting interviews (as Sky Sports) Leeds United v Brentford - Paul Walker Norwich City v Huddersfield Town (Friday) - Daniel Mann and Andy Hinchcliffe, with David Craig conducting interviews (as Sky Sports) Championship round-ups - Dan Mason, Nick Halling, Sue Thearle and Jack Woodward League One and Two round-ups - Jack Woodward, Matt Williams, Sue Thearle, Dan Mason, John Anderson and Nick Halling Despite there being two of the regular Football on 5 studio pundits being on tonight, we didn't get another pundits talking over the action style voiceovers. Which is never a bad thing. |
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Sunday Supplement seems to be 9:00-10:30 and 10:30-11:30 today
EDIT: An early Xmas present from C5 to The Difference it seems
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Sunday Supplement is absolute car crash stuff this morning. It's basically Gary Neville on trial. Oliver Holt in particular is coming across as a self righteous, self important tit, even more so than normal.
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Let me commence "operation catch-up" with the post I was in the process of making when the board stopped accepting new posts... Quote:
Coupe De La Ligue 4th Round - Sochaux v Marseille (BT Sport 2) - Andy Bodfish and Kevin Davies
Bodfish said "we're heading for extra-time" prior to and after the full-time whistle. I thought he would realise his mistake during the ad-break but when they came back from it he said it again. It was only when a goalkeeper and penalty taker were making their way towards the goal with the rest of the teams gathering on the half-way line that an awkward silence ensued while he twigged what was happening. Then, finally, came a casual ".... so then, straight to penalties." Smoothly done
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#3634 |
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Sunday Supplement is absolute car crash stuff this morning. It's basically Gary Neville on trial. Oliver Holt in particular is coming across as a self righteous, self important tit, even more so than normal.
It's always an incredibly odd show to watch - the journalists on there always come across as self-righteous and self-important and for little apparent reason. Yet it always feels as if the show is trying to be highbrow - and failing miserably. Today's line-up too doesn't exactly make me tempted to watch. I'm assuming there's lot of opinion, hot air and little of substance. |
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Agreed, but then again I don't enjoy the co-commentaries of any of the regulars on BT's Premier League games so I don't know who I'd replace him with. Pretty much the same goes for pundits actually. So, unless I could draft in people from outside the chosen few that work on PL matches, I'd opt to have no pre or post match and just go with the world feed.
![]() When you put it simply you have to immediately form a firm decision and get it right while also showing personality and excitement (but not too much), not speaking too much (or too little) and without repeating yourself (intentionally or not)- also while at the same time having to ideally provide some tactical insight or analysis. Miss out any of the above and you'll inevitably get criticised. Ignoring Sky co-commentators (who are all strong), I think co-commentators as a whole are pretty poor. Keown and Murphy are BBC's main two and aren't great and Hoddle on ITV is little better than on BT. Lawro and Townsend too used to get plenty of criticism too when they were lead co-commentators. That just shows how difficult a job it is and makes you realise how good the very best are at it. It's noticeable too that often the better ones have had years and even decades to hone their skills. Not saying co-commentators shouldn't be criticised (as let's face it we as viewers have to put up with the co-commentator if they're dreadful and I'm as bad as anyone for criticising co-commentators) but at times we maybe don't appreciate it's a bloody difficult role. |
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Why have Sky curtailed Goals on Sunday to show this garbage? I literally couldn't care less what Gary Neville wants to read in a newspaper.
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Sunday Supplement is absolute car crash stuff this morning. It's basically Gary Neville on trial. Oliver Holt in particular is coming across as a self righteous, self important tit, even more so than normal.
Holt was on the defensive from the very beginning and reeled off a load of names that meant nothing to me or to Neville, probably. I will probably watch it all the way through eventually out of interest but I foolishly thought there might actually be some football discussion rather than just Neville versus the media. |
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Daniel Mann & David Prutton on QPR vs Villa
Scott Minto presenting but not sure who with I'm sure QPR fans would prefer it if Ian Holloway was a pundit |
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David Jones is with Souness & Thierry for Super Sunday
Surprised there's no Carragher today |
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David Jones is with Souness & Thierry for Super Sunday
Surprised there's no Carragher today I'm watching the EFL match today so I can tell you that Tim Sherwood is with Minto for the match. |
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Most likely they are saving him for tomorrow.
I'm watching the EFL match today so I can tell you that Tim Sherwood is with Minto for the match. |
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Leslie & Provan at Bournemouth. Good pairing.
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Gary Weaver & Andy Townsend on Bournemouth-Southampton for NBCSN. Arlo White, Lee Dixon & Graeme Le Saux will be on Man City-Arsenal.
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Gary Weaver & Andy Townsend on Bournemouth-Southampton for NBCSN. Arlo White, Lee Dixon & Graeme Le Saux will be on Man City-Arsenal.
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Not for me Gary
![]() ![]() If anything you posted it too well! Thierry's equivalent being 'If I can say that' or trying to sound very profound when saying something obvious (e.g today is a big test for Arsenal). |
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With respect Steve, as much as most of the above is true, I just genuinely was asking why. He hadn't been trending the rest of the evening (and none of the other BT people had) so was wondering if there was any reason/incident behind it. Nothing more/nothing less.
That said if I was hugely fussed I probably could have looked up myself. I know the point you're marking though. Easier to criticise bigger name pundits. Quote:
Watching Coventry v Sheff Utd last night, I noticed it was George Gavin's Last Outing for Sky after 22 years.
He looked embarrassed when Peter Beagrie gave him a Kiss on the cheek at the end of the Programme. Quote:
Macclesfield Town v Bromley (12:15pm) - BT Sport 1.
Matt Smith to present from Moss Rose with Kevin Davies and Gareth Seddon. Natalie Quirk reporting. Quote:
Kelly Cates is with Clinton Morrison and David Prutton in the studio. It's the first time I've seen it and it seems a massive studio!
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Wonder if the drop of the third man is a temporary thing? The EPG info for PL Tonight said Rio Ferdinand was going to appear as a pundit so I wonder if he pulled out of appearing last minute, hence Hoddle moving to pundit and they couldn't get Francis to commentate.
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Football on 5
George Riley and Lynsey Hipgrave presented alongside Chris Iwelumo and Michael Gray And on New Year's Eve, it will go up against Match of the Day for a half an hour. Good luck with that. Quote:
Why have Sky curtailed Goals on Sunday to show this garbage? I literally couldn't care less what Gary Neville wants to read in a newspaper.
The picture of Neville they used in the rolling promo in the build-up to Palace vs Chelsea yesterday was also the least flattering picture of Neville I have ever seen, made him look like Les Dawson. Quote:
Not at all. There are only somewhere in the region of a million points about things that have happened during the time that the forum has been unavailable which I've had to keep bottled up. Not the least bit frustrating.
![]() Anyway, one of the commentators was very chatty and friendly (ie, a bit drunk) and at one point struck up conversation with us about his drunk mate, so we couldn't resist the opportunity to say we knew who they were, which led to a long conversation with the commentator, and an introduction to his colleagues, all of whom were very nice indeed. A great moment. If you follow me on Twitter you'll know who they were, I won't namedrop here, but you'll have heard of them. I notice they've all been on air this weekend, bright and breezy as ever. Clearly I was at such a loose end with the Commentators Thread being down, I actually had to go and seek out commentators. I didn't tell them about this thread, by the way. They'd suffered enough running into a sad fanboy like me. |
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Tyler & GNev. Delighted to hear these two together at least once while I'm here.
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From Thursday...
Coventry vs Sheff U - Introduced by George Gavin with Peter Beagrie, commentary by Gary Weaver and Garry Birtles Norwich vs Huddersfield - Introduced by Scott Minto with Peter Beagrie and Darren Eadie, commentary by Daniel Mann and Andy Hinchcliffe Palace vs Chelsea - Introduced by Simon Thomas with Ashley Cole, Chris Coleman and Jamie Redknapp, commentary by Alan Parry and Alan Smith Macclesfield vs Bromley - Introduced by Matt Smith with Kevin Davies and Gareth Seddon, commentary by Adam Summerton and Adam Virgo West Brom vs Man U - Introduced by Jake Humphrey with Steven Gerrard and Glenn Hoddle, commentary by Darren Fletcher and Owen Hargreaves Birmingham vs Brighton - Introduced by Kelly Cates with Clinton Morrison and David Prutton, commentary by Gary Weaver and Danny Higginbotham QPR vs Villa - Introduced by Scott Minto with Tim Sherwood, commentary by Daniel Mann and David Prutton Super Sunday - Introduced by Dave Jones with Thierry Henry and Graeme Souness, Bournemouth vs Southampton commentary by Bill Leslie and Davie Provan, Man City vs Arsenal commentary by Martin Tyler and Gary Neville |
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Just caught up with Sunday Supplement. It started as them putting Neville on trial and just defending themselves but Neville soon had them almost on side. He made some really good and well-executed points which the journos didn't exactly defend/answer. It's blatantly clear that our journalists don't actually seem to understand football as well as they seem to think they do. Also, they seem to think their opinion is more important than others.
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Leslie & Provan at Bournemouth. Good pairing.
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