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Old 22-12-2016, 00:57
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2) Sky Sports 5 Ireland - could somebody please give me a brief description of how these Saturday 3pm Premier League game broadcasts work? Programme length etc? I believe that Hayley McQueen is typically the presenter and that they employ a couple of their own commentators. For example, I think was Crocker and Hinchcliffe this weekend for West Ham v Hull. Do they use the same studio that Game of the Day is shown on later in the evening?

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Yeah it is basically McQueen (occasionally someone else) and one pundit. Most commonly been Niall Quinn (To give it a top drawer Irish look!). It's presented from the SNF mini studio as the match choice bit. Commentary is specific to SS5 Ireland and there is Sky graphics but it is effectively over the world feed like a non-live match with the PL branded replay wipes. There is a reporter but I think only utilised for the pooled pre/post match interviews (as a non-live game). Programme runs 2:30-5:15 usually I believe.

It is a very bare bones coverage essentially. Reminds me of that emergency-late-in-the-day-last-minute-game shown between Stoke and Fulham in early January 2010 after bad weather called off the league cup game Sky were going to show. Crocker and Horne on comms (originally a world feed, but become Sky's comms) with them on commentary with Sky graphics but a bit world-feedy looking (and not in HD, as at the time the non-live PL games usually still didn't have HD then). Jeff/Alan Curbishley in the studio. (7 year anniversary nearly for that!)

EDIT: Said chat from Jan 5th 2010. QPRKeithJ.
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Old 22-12-2016, 08:05
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Celtic v Partick Thistle- Kheredine Idessane for the BBC
Rangers v Inverness CT- Tom Miller and Gordon Smith for RangersTV

Tweet from Derek Rae: 'Will be back on #Bundesliga world feed commentary duty when the league resumes after the Winterpause. Leipzig-Frankfurt & Leverkusen-Hertha'
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Old 22-12-2016, 08:42
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Some great forgotten names from the thread's past there!
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Old 22-12-2016, 09:50
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Yeah it is basically McQueen (occasionally someone else) and one pundit. Most commonly been Niall Quinn (To give it a top drawer Irish look!). It's presented from the SNF mini studio as the match choice bit. Commentary is specific to SS5 Ireland and there is Sky graphics but it is effectively over the world feed like a non-live match with the PL branded replay wipes. There is a reporter but I think only utilised for the pooled pre/post match interviews (as a non-live game). Programme runs 2:30-5:15 usually I believe.

It is a very bare bones coverage essentially. Reminds me of that emergency-late-in-the-day-last-minute-game shown between Stoke and Fulham in early January 2010 after bad weather called off the league cup game Sky were going to show. Crocker and Horne on comms (originally a world feed, but become Sky's comms) with them on commentary with Sky graphics but a bit world-feedy looking (and not in HD, as at the time the non-live PL games usually still didn't have HD then). Jeff/Alan Curbishley in the studio. (7 year anniversary nearly for that!)

EDIT: Said chat from Jan 5th 2010. QPRKeithJ.
Thank you very much.

Is there a website that lists upcoming matches live on TV in both the UK & Ireland? It would be nice to keep track of what's being shown in Ireland without having to manually look it up. My Googling often takes me to the Irish Times' weekly sport on TV guide, but I'm thinking there has to be a better resource than that?

Which sites do you folks use?
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Old 22-12-2016, 10:18
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Some great forgotten names from the thread's past there!
Indeed some fantastic posters on that thread. Looking back at it now, no mercy was given to commentators back then and there were some, ahem, 'interesting' opinions to put it that way.

Was a reader at that time but I remember back in the day Leslie used to be criticised a lot for his 'growling' (still to this day don't get that criticism).

Trawling through that thread QPRKeithJ really was spot on with his prediction for Jacqui Oatley ..

Has she got potential as a TV presenter though - she's got the journalist background, calmness on camera and the looks for it. ... I predict she'll be more presenter than commentator in the next few years.
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Old 22-12-2016, 12:56
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Yeah it is basically McQueen (occasionally someone else) and one pundit. Most commonly been Niall Quinn (To give it a top drawer Irish look!). It's presented from the SNF mini studio as the match choice bit. Commentary is specific to SS5 Ireland and there is Sky graphics but it is effectively over the world feed like a non-live match with the PL branded replay wipes. There is a reporter but I think only utilised for the pooled pre/post match interviews (as a non-live game). Programme runs 2:30-5:15 usually I believe.

It is a very bare bones coverage essentially. Reminds me of that emergency-late-in-the-day-last-minute-game shown between Stoke and Fulham in early January 2010 after bad weather called off the league cup game Sky were going to show. Crocker and Horne on comms (originally a world feed, but become Sky's comms) with them on commentary with Sky graphics but a bit world-feedy looking (and not in HD, as at the time the non-live PL games usually still didn't have HD then). Jeff/Alan Curbishley in the studio. (7 year anniversary nearly for that!)

EDIT: Said chat from Jan 5th 2010. QPRKeithJ.
That pretty much covers it, although they're on air till half 5 every week. Quinn usually is the pundit or co-commentator (unless he is involved in the early game) when Keith Andrews is usually involved. David Craig has been the reporter for most of the matches I've seen, with the usual pre- and post- with the managers and a couple of players on arrival.

It's a slightly odd show. The best thing about the Setanta 3pm kick offs was the chat and discussion about all the other matches, even when they stopped sending reporters to them all, and even though you hadn't seen the goals from elsewhere, you knew all the big talking points. On sky, they show the scores but that's it. I know there's Soccer Saturday for that, but they do struggle to drag it out till half 5 most weeks by just talking about their match.
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Old 22-12-2016, 13:37
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UK and Irish live coverage of the English Premier League is the weakest in the world.

Everywhere else can mostly see every EPL game live
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Old 22-12-2016, 13:57
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UK and Irish live coverage of the English Premier League is the weakest in the world.

Everywhere else can mostly see every EPL game live
Once again you're in the wrong thread and it seems like a point that's come from literally nowhere - arguiing with yourself?

However, assuming EPL in your second para means the Premier League - which is the competition's actual name; nobody types German Bundesliga, French Ligue 1 etc, why do we do it for our own league? - then your statement is actually wrong.

Most European viewers are not much better off than UK/Ireland.
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Old 22-12-2016, 14:00
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Thank you very much.

Is there a website that lists upcoming matches live on TV in both the UK & Ireland? It would be nice to keep track of what's being shown in Ireland without having to manually look it up. My Googling often takes me to the Irish Times' weekly sport on TV guide, but I'm thinking there has to be a better resource than that?

Which sites do you folks use?
Shame your googling didn't take you back here!!!

There is a thread on DS that lists the 3pms on Sky Sports 5 in Ireland.

It used to be part of the main PL on TV thread but there were a few objections.
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Old 22-12-2016, 19:31
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Fiorentina v Napoli (BT Sport 1) — Dave Farrar and Chris Perry
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Old 22-12-2016, 20:09
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Monday Dec. 26

Watford v Crystal Palace- Peter Drury and Clive Allen
Manchester Utd v Sunderland- Gary Weaver and Danny Higginbotham
Chelsea v Bournemouth- Tony Jones and Tony Gale
Arsenal v West Brom- by Jim Proudfoot and David Prutton
Burnley v Middlesbrough- Jonathan Beck and Neil McCann
Leicester City v Everton- Ian Crocker and Andy Hinchcliffe
Swansea City v West Ham- Phil Blacker and Terry Gibson

Tuesday Dec. 27

Liverpool v Stoke City- Peter Drury and Jim Beglin

Wednesday Dec. 28

Southampton v Tottenham- Jon Champion and David Prutton

Saturday Dec. 31

Swansea v Bournemouth- Phil Blacker
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Old 22-12-2016, 20:48
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Alan Smith confirmed he is at Watford on Boxing Day
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Old 22-12-2016, 20:56
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Shame your googling didn't take you back here!!!

There is a thread on DS that lists the 3pms on Sky Sports 5 in Ireland.

It used to be part of the main PL on TV thread but there were a few objections.
You misunderstand me.

My question goes beyond the scope of which Premier League games are being shown in Ireland.

I am asking which websites people use to keep track of upcoming matches on TV. For example, two I know of are www.live-footballontv.com and www.wheresthematch.com

However, those two are limited to what's being shown in the UK, so I am asking:

1) is there a site that lists both UK & Ireland together?

and if not...

2) can anyone recommended a good site for purely Irish listings?

If I want to find out which Premier League games are on at 3pm in Ireland, I can - by looking it up - but that's what I meant about doing it manually. I am looking for a resource that enables me to keep track of everything that is being shown in Ireland and when from this point onwards, and not just which Saturday 3pms from England are on.
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Old 22-12-2016, 21:26
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You misunderstand me.

My question goes beyond the scope of which Premier League games are being shown in Ireland.
No worries.

You had quoted a post which referred only to the 3pms on Sky Sports in Ireland hence the misunderstanding.

Anyway, there's very other football that is on exclusively in Ireland.
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Old 22-12-2016, 21:32
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On my favourite new TV show at 10am every weekday on SSN......

It was Alan Smith & Alan Stubbs today which clearly confused Rob when he just wanted to say refer to "Alan" but obviously couldn't due to the confusion it would cause!
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Old 22-12-2016, 22:10
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Col... The SSN HQ HD not 4K @ 10 report every day... Quite like it.
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Old 22-12-2016, 22:31
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Col... The SSN HQ HD not 4K @ 10 report every day... Quite like it.


I'm honestly shocked and how dull it is, I'm looking forward to tomorrow
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Old 22-12-2016, 22:50
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I'm honestly shocked and how dull it is, I'm looking forward to tomorrow
Try seeing the 10+ mins of repurposed 'highlights' of that chat from that said show either promo'ed or shown/padded into every bloody hour after! After a couple of hours pretty tedious.
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Old 23-12-2016, 01:46
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BUNDESLIGA MATCHDAY 15
Friday, December 16
TSG 1899 Hoffenheim vs. Borussia Dortmund
World Feed: Kevin Hatchard
FS1: JP Dellacamera, Stu Holden
BT Sport 3: Dave Farrar, Don Hutchison
talkSPORT: James Fielden

Saturday, December 17
Red Bull Leipzig vs. Hertha BSC Berlin
World Feed: Chris Sharples, Peter Løvenkrands
FS1: Keith Costigan, Stu Holden
talkSPORT: James Fielden

FSV Mainz 05 vs. Hamburger SV
World Feed/FS2: Derek Rae

FC Augsburg vs. Borussia Mönchengladbach
World Feed/FSP: Kevin Hatchard

FC Schalke 04 vs. Sporting-Club Freiburg
World Feed: Dan O'Hagan

SV Werder Bremen vs. 1. FC Köln
World Feed: Garry Preston

VfL Wolfsburg vs. Eintracht Frankfurt
World Feed/FSP: Phil Bonney
BT Sport 2: Paul Dempsey
talkSPORT: Tim Long

Sunday, December 18
SV Darmstadt 98 vs. Bayern Munich
World Feed/FS2: Derek Rae
BT Sport 1: Paul Dempsey, Owen Hargreaves
talkSPORT: Joe Shennan

Bayer 04 Leverkusen vs. FC Ingolstadt 04
World Feed: Phil Bonney
FS2: Keith Costigan
BT Sport 1: Dan Mason
talkSPORT: Kevin Hatchard

BUNDESLIGA MATCHDAY 16
Tuesday, December 20
Borussia Dortmund vs. FC Augsburg 04
World Feed/SNET World: Dan O'Hagan
FS1/BT Sport 2: Derek Rae, Don Hutchison
talkSPORT: Kevin Hatchard

Hamburger SV vs. FC Schalke 04
World Feed/FS2: Joe Speight

Eintracht Frankfurt vs. FSV Mainz 05
World Feed/FSP: Garry Preston

Borussia Mönchengladbach vs. VfL Wolfsburg
World Feed: Alex Sisto

Wednesday, December 21
Bayern Munich vs. Red Bull Leipzig
World Feed/SNET World: Jon Hartley, Kevin McKenna
FS1/BT Sport 3: Derek Rae, Owen Hargreaves
talkSPORT: Tom Rennie

1. FC Köln vs. Bayer 04 Leverkusen
World Feed/FS2: Dan O'Hagan

Hertha BSC Berlin vs. SV Darmstadt 98
World Feed/FSP: Rob Daly

TSG 1899 Hoffenheim vs. SV Werder Bremen
World Feed: Garry Preston

FC Ingolstadt 04 vs. Sporting-Club Freiburg
World Feed: Joe Speght

RUNNING TALLY- COMMENTATOR APPEARANCES:
World Feed play-by-play:
Phil Bonney- 21
Kevin Hatchard- 19
Garry Preston- 18
Dan O'Hagan- 16
Derek Rae- 15
Rob Daly- 13
Mark Scott- 9
Alex Sisto- 9
Chris Sharples- 8
Andy James- 6
Jon Hartley- 4
James Thorogood- 3
Joe Speight- 2
Trevor Harris- 1

World Feed analysts:
Peter Løvenkrands- 3
Patrick Owomoyela- 3
Stefan Schnoor- 3
Kevin McKenna- 2
Moritz Volz- 2
Steve Cherundolo- 1
Steffen Freund- 1
Karl Heinz-Reidle- 1
Thomas Hitzlsperger- 1

BT Sport play-by-play:
Paul Dempsey- 14
Ben Andrews- 8
Dan Mason- 6
Derek Rae- 5
Dave Farrar- 4
Alistair Mann- 4
Steve Wyeth- 4
Simon Brotherton- 3
John Anderson- 2
Peter Drury- 2
Jonathan Beck- 1
Steve Bower- 1
Wayne Boyce- 1
Jonathan Pearce- 1
Mark Scott- 1

BT Sport analysts:
Don Hutchison- 9
Chris Perry- 8
Nigel Spackman- 7
Owen Hargreaves- 3
Stewart Robson- 3
Jim Beglin- 2
Efan Ekoku- 2
Adam Virgo- 1

FOX play-by-play:
Keith Costigan- 17
Ross Fletcher- 3
John Strong- 3
Ross Dyer- 2
JP Dellacamera- 1

FOX analysts:
Stu Holden- 7
Ian Joy- 5
Brian Dunseth-3
Cobi Jones- 2
Eric Wynalda- 2
Warren Barton- 1

talkSPORT play-by-play:
Kevin Hatchard- 22
James Fielden- 15
Tim Long- 8
Toby Gilles- 7
Joe Shennan- 6
Chris Sharples- 3
Barry Swain- 3
Dan Wheeler- 3
Matt Davies- 2
Chris Parrott- 2
Tom Rennie- 1
Callum Williams- 1
Dan Windle- 1
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Old 23-12-2016, 02:07
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Monday Dec. 26

Watford v Crystal Palace- Peter Drury and Clive Allen
Manchester Utd v Sunderland- Gary Weaver and Danny Higginbotham
Chelsea v Bournemouth- Tony Jones and Tony Gale
Arsenal v West Brom- by Jim Proudfoot and David Prutton
Burnley v Middlesbrough- Jonathan Beck and Neil McCann
Leicester City v Everton- Ian Crocker and Andy Hinchcliffe
Swansea City v West Ham- Phil Blacker and Terry Gibson

Tuesday Dec. 27

Liverpool v Stoke City- Peter Drury and Jim Beglin

Wednesday Dec. 28

Southampton v Tottenham- Jon Champion and David Prutton

Saturday Dec. 31

Swansea v Bournemouth- Phil Blacker
Looking at those teams for Boxing Day, it's remarkable how Sky have such strength in depth of their co-commentary department compared to the other broadcasters. Here, three of their EFL co-comms, a La Liga co-comm and SFL co-comm all have games. These easily compete with BT's and yet they have another 4-5 higher ranked co-comms on top of that. I don't understand why ITV don't go knocking for the major summer tournaments.
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Old 23-12-2016, 08:40
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I'm guessing Davie Provan will be at Hull with someone doing play-by-play (which presumably is how the kids speak in this modern world).
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Old 23-12-2016, 10:01
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Message for Akilduff: Please clear some space in your inbox so that I can send you a private message. It's telling me that your quota is full. Cheers.
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Old 23-12-2016, 10:24
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Message for Akilduff: Please clear some space in your inbox so that I can send you a private message. It's telling me that your quota is full. Cheers.
An email might've been better than a forum-clogging post
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Old 23-12-2016, 11:23
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An email might've been better than a forum-clogging post
Only if he has opted to receive emails
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Old 23-12-2016, 13:56
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An email might've been better than a forum-clogging post
If you were that concerned about clogging the forum, you would have told me that via PM or email yourself.

I didn't want to post a message like that but I didn't think I had a choice. It didn't even occur to me to try the email link but most people have that feature turned off. It must have given you great delight when you clicked on his profile to see that it was enabled.

I just hope people can find it in their hearts to forgive me for this terrible, terrible crime.
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