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Football Commentators Thread (Part 19)
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IC89
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by The Lizard:
“Correct details input, as AH did the Hull v Manchester City game for Sky Sports.”

Must have been a very last minute change; even the voiceover for the Premier League Review show this morning on BT Sport said it was AH as co-commentator of the Leicester-Everton game...
BFGArmy
27-12-2016
Important info out the way first - Ray Parlour and Dean 'Deano' Saunders were the guests on bwfcol's favourite football show on SSNHQHDPLDAILY.

Originally Posted by bwfcol:
“A better game than I thought, partly helped by Mr Gomes Good stuff from the two Alan's. They work very well together. I'd guess Leslie at Hull, Hawthorne at Anfield and Tyler at Southampton.”

Didn't hear much of the commentary (was heading to a 3pm game) but do think Alan Smith does a fantastic job.
He, Davie Provan and Andy Hinchcliffe are very strong on co-commentary week in week out.

Originally Posted by pakokelso93:
“Come on! If everyone else was having a day off... Surely that would include the sponsor... Just imagine it... "Dwight Yorke's Football Special!" ”

Dwight Yorke Live I'll have you know. Can't be getting the Sky branding wrong now can we?

Originally Posted by bwfcol:
“Nissan Football Special - Watford vs Crystal Palace

Presenter: Dwight Yorke
Pundits: Dwight Yorke
Commentators: Dwight Yorke
Play by play (WTF is this?): Dwight Yorke

Reporter: Dwight Yorke

”

Play-by-Play? Can only assume that's the role Sky have on some games (the bigger ones) where as well as the main commentators either Carragher or Redknapp are also on the gantry and come in every so often with thoughts.

Originally Posted by Li4m:
“And for it to really count he'll be the only pundit.”

Sounds like Sky really let me down there.
I could forgive them a lot - whatever FNF is meant to be, ridiculous 'slogans' for matches, even getting rid of 'Inner Smile' as the League Cup Music.

But not using Dwight Yorke on Boxing Day though really is the last straw.

Up until MOTD, Boxing Day coverage was disappointingly competent compared to the diabolical Boxing Day coverage we got last year from BT.
Assume after last night's MOTD that Gazza1992 is now boycotting BBC as well as ITV.
bwfcol
27-12-2016
Scott Minto is with Keith Andrews & Gary Rowett at Pride Park

EDIT: I didn't know that it was no longer iPro Stadium
bwfcol
27-12-2016
Gary Weaver & Andy Hinchcliffe are comms at Brighton
bwfcol
27-12-2016
It wouldn't be this thread without a geography based Tweet, late KO in Hull to early KO in Brighton for Andy, bit of a journey to be fair as not an obvious flight route either
CardioCortez
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by bwfcol:
“It wouldn't be this thread without a geography based Tweet, late KO in Hull to early KO in Brighton for Andy, bit of a journey to be fair as not an obvious flight route either”

Again, I doubt Andy was supposed to be co-comm last night up here in Hull. I wonder who pulled out. Somebody northern based?
pakokelso93
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“Dwight Yorke Live I'll have you know. Can't be getting the Sky branding wrong now can we? ”

Dwight Yorke Live sounds like something ITV would do just as a general chat show idea!


Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“Play-by-Play? Can only assume that's the role Sky have on some games (the bigger ones) where as well as the main commentators either Carragher or Redknapp are also on the gantry and come in every so often with thoughts.”

Play-by-play is a more American term used for a lead commentator. With colour commentator the co-comm.
bwfcol
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by CardioCortez:
“Again, I doubt Andy was supposed to be co-comm last night up here in Hull. I wonder who pulled out. Somebody northern based?”

Why do you think that? He's done plenty of PL games
BFGArmy
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by bwfcol:
“Why do you think that? He's done plenty of PL games”

It does seem a bit odd that he'd be originally picked to do a game in the North East yesterday and then Brighton this lunchtime - as you mentioned. Which I assume is what Cardio is getting at.
I think IC89 mentioned too that the generic PL Review show said he was doing the Leicester game on Boxing Day (which we know he wasn't).

Does seem like whoever was going to co-commentate didn't for whatever reason - which happens with coverage with pundits/commentators etc. - and Andy Hinchcliffe stepped in.

In any case, always good to hear more of Andy Hinchcliffe - a thread favourite.

Originally Posted by pakokelso93:
“Dwight Yorke Live sounds like something ITV would do just as a general chat show idea!

Play-by-play is a more American term used for a lead commentator. With colour commentator the co-comm.”

On the latter, indeed it is. I was just trying to make sense of whatever it was in the thing bwfcol had posted.
bwfcol
27-12-2016
Derby vs Birmingham - Martin Fisher & Danny Higgingbotham
pakokelso93
27-12-2016
Well hello big surprise! Martin Fisher on Sky!
bwfcol
27-12-2016
A bit of a shocker there!

Has Martin Fisher done a live Sky game before?
loyalsince
27-12-2016
I've always found Fisher to be best of bbc freelancers (after contracted or to some extent contracted team of mowbray Pearce Wilson and brotherton)

Much better than bower and weaver imho, so hoping he goes well

Still not overly impressed by Scott Minto. Bland, boring
bwfcol
27-12-2016
Maybe Fisher is a late replacement but Sky have Crocker, Keatings & Palmer who could all have done this game. I like Fisher but just seems odd!
mightymillie
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by bwfcol:
“It wouldn't be this thread without a geography based Tweet, late KO in Hull to early KO in Brighton for Andy, bit of a journey to be fair as not an obvious flight route either”

Newcastle to Gatwick is a pretty popular routes.
Or he could have got the train.
CardioCortez
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by bwfcol:
“Derby vs Birmingham - Martin Fisher & Danny Higgingbotham”

Now that's surprising!

Not sure I've heard him alongside a co-comm before. I like Higginbotham - in fact, I'm not sure there's a Sky co-comm I don't like. Strength in depth.
CardioCortez
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by bwfcol:
“Maybe Fisher is a late replacement but Sky have Crocker, Keatings & Palmer who could all have done this game. I like Fisher but just seems odd!”

Palmer is usually used after Leslie, Mann and Weaver. Palmer was at Hull yesterday watching as a fan so wouldn't have been too far away to travel to this.
CardioCortez
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by loyalsince:
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Still not overly impressed by Scott Minto. Bland, boring”

He is by far the weakest part of Sky's FL coverage for me.
TheSubaru2012
27-12-2016
I just wonder if Fisher will soon be a regular on Sky's EFL coverage? Sky have used to normally have 3 commentators however since Leslie's promotion to Premier League games it's been Weaver and Mann commentating on most of the games with Leslie and Palmer on the occasional game, the latter normally on League 1/2 games.

It's been quite a busy schedule as well with a fair few games over the Christmas so perhaps Mann has decided he doesn't want to this many games over a short period. I can understand this decision because he and Weaver did nine out of the ten '10 In 10' games combined, for either commentator that seems a bit of an overkill.

So perhaps Sky are starting to look for a third regular commentator and the question is why other Sky regulars couldn't do this match, Ian Crocker is regularly commentating for the world feed on PL games and SPL for Sky which rules him out and Keatings/Palmer are on a break from La Liga games so Sky thought it was best to go for a freelancer. I think Fisher would be a great choice as the number 3 Sky EFL commentator, I could see him doing a fair few games including League 1/2 games even if it means Palmer get demoted a bit.
luketwill
27-12-2016
Just for complete clarification:
LIVE Sky Bet EFL Championship Double-Bill (Sky Sports 1)

Both matches presented from Pride Park by Scott Minto, joined by Keith Andrews and Gary Rowett.

Brighton & Hove Albion v Queens Park Rangers
David Craig reporting at the AMEX.
Commentators - Gary Weaver and Andy Hinchcliffe

Derby County v Birmingham City
Jonathan Oakes reporting pitchside.
Commentators - Martin Fisher and Danny Higginbotham
TheSubaru2012
27-12-2016
David Jones with Jamie Carragher at Anfield per David's Twitter. If there is any chance of Dwight Yorke appearing, it's tomorrow.
bwfcol
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by TheSubaru2012:
“David Jones with Jamie Carragher at Anfield per David's Twitter. If there is any chance of Dwight Yorke appearing, it's tomorrow. ”

I can't see him at Southampton, maybe 'Boro vs Leicester on Monday
digiremote
27-12-2016
Belgian Pro League: Genk v Gent (Premier Sports)

Commentator: Will Downing
TheSubaru2012
27-12-2016
Originally Posted by bwfcol:
“I can't see him at Southampton, maybe 'Boro vs Leicester on Monday”

There's two games that day but the thought of double Dwight!
bwfcol
27-12-2016
Liverpool vs Stoke

Martin Tyler and Niall Quinn
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