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Liverpool v Stoke City - Tuesday, 27 December 2016 - Premier League
Sky Sports 1 / Sky Sports 1 HD, Sky Q Ultra HD Presented by: David Jones Guest: Jamie Carragher Commentators: Martin Tyler and Niall Quinn Reporter: Greg Whelan |
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Tyler seemed a bit muted/surprised by that goal
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It's been quite a busy schedule as well with a fair few games over the Christmas so perhaps Mann has decided he doesn't want to this many games over a short period. I can understand this decision because he and Weaver did nine out of the ten '10 In 10' games combined, for either commentator that seems a bit of an overkill.
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Brighton v QPR- John Roder for the world feed
Eastleigh v Boreham Wood- Matt Smith presents for BT with Chris Hargreaves and Darrell Clarke. Steve Bower and Adam Virgo commentate, Natalie Quirk reports. |
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Wait do you think Mann decides when he picks and choses when he commentates.
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Not really but he has probably told Sky he can't do so much games in a certain amount of days.
![]() Err... No as a contracted employee of a company his employer who will allocate what games he does and then he does what he is told. Same employer will also do rota/allocations with plenty of things in mind including festive period etc.
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Err... No as a contracted employee of a company his employer who will allocate what games he does and then he does what he is told. Same employer will also do rota/allocations with plenty of things in mind including festive period etc.
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I feel for the poor bugger now.
![]() Maybe you go to work and tell your boss you fancy working 16 hours this week and maybe only 8 hours the next in a 2017 business model or something. |
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Christmas Football Round-Up (24th-27th Dec)
All the Christmas football incase anyone missed any, apologies for any duplicate information.
Saturday 24th December Hamilton v Celtic (Sky Sports 1 / Sky Sports 5) - Ian Crocker and Andy Walker Monday 26th December Aldershot v Woking (BT Sport 1 / BT Sport 4K UHD) - Adam Summerton and Adam Virgo Watford v Crystal Palace (Sky Sports 1 / Sky Q Ultra HD) - Alan Parry and Alan Smith Watford v Crystal Palace (World Feed) - Peter Drury and Clive Allen Charleroi v Anderlecht (Premier Sports) - Mark Rodden Hull City v Man City (Sky Sports 1 / Sky Q Ultra HD) - Bill Leslie and Andy Hinchcliffe Hull City v Man City (World Feed) - Jon Champion and Matt Holland Newcastle v Sheff Weds (Sky Sports 1) - Daniel Mann and Don Goodman Tuesday 27th December Brighton v QPR (Sky Sports 1) - Gary Weaver and Andy Hinchcliffe Brighton v QPR (World Feed - John Roder Derby v Birmingham (Sky Sports 1) - Martin Fisher and Danny Higginbotham Genk v Gent (Premier Sports) - Will Downing Liverpool v Stoke City (Sky Sports 1) - Martin Tyler and Niall Quinn Eastleigh v Boreham Wood (BT Sport 1 / BT Sport 4K UHD) - Steve Bower and Adam Virgo |
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Belgian Pro League:Sint-Truiden v Standard Liège (Premier Sports)
Commentator: Stephen Alkin |
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St Johnstone v Rangers- Tom Miller and Hugh Burns for RangersTV (although Hugh is recovering from illness so may have to be replaced by Gordon Smith)
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Still not overly impressed by Scott Minto. Bland, boring
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He is by far the weakest part of Sky's FL coverage for me.
Now that George Gavin is out of the equation, I'm not sure that there are many or any obvious candidates ready to step in every now and then and mix it up from our point of view. Whilst I don't think Minto is the best either, I don't see his position as being particularly under threat. Any suggestions for a replacement, or at least to "share the workload"? |
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It would surprise me even more than it did when Martin Fisher cropped up as the commentator today if someone other than Minto presented a EFL game on Sky for the remainder of the season! (excluding the studio-based matches that Kelly Cates hosts on Saturday evenings of course)
Now that George Gavin is out of the equation, I'm not sure that there are many or any obvious candidates ready to step in every now and then and mix it up from our point of view. Whilst I don't think Minto is the best either, I don't see his position as being particularly under threat. Any suggestions for a replacement, or at least to "share the workload"? |
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It would surprise me even more than it did when Martin Fisher cropped up as the commentator today if someone other than Minto presented a EFL game on Sky for the remainder of the season! (excluding the studio-based matches that Kelly Cates hosts on Saturday evenings of course)
Now that George Gavin is out of the equation, I'm not sure that there are many or any obvious candidates ready to step in every now and then and mix it up from our point of view. Whilst I don't think Minto is the best either, I don't see his position as being particularly under threat. Any suggestions for a replacement, or at least to "share the workload"?
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Tyler seemed a bit muted/surprised by that goal
On another note just been catching up after returning from the mighty Albion i like many was very surprised to see Martin Fisher being used for the first time by Sky. So surprising considering Sky have numerous commentators they could of used, even Bill Leslie could of popped up as it's not unheard of commentators doing 2 games in a row or even Ian Crocker or numerous one's they use on football first...Gary Taphouse even? Sorry TheSubaru but there is no way on earth Daniel Mann would be able to pick his commentaries......on that note i am going to ring my bosses and say i dont fancy working tomorow ![]()
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Natalie Sawyer probably might come back in to pick up a bit of slack if required on international breaks etc. However she has dropped off the face of the earth from the FL coverage... Along with main Transfer deadline day slot in past couple of years and she isn't on the prominent slots on SSN anymore.. either mid-morning/early afo or more often the 7-10pm slot these days...
Funnily enough, I liked what I saw of Abdo as a presenter on her brief stint on the Spanish football coverage... but that looks to be boxing's gain. ![]() If Minto and his La Liga presenting past is anything to go by, David Garrido might be the next person they are training up for EFL assignments. ![]() Quote:
With Gavin gone then the only really good contender to take his games is Kelly Cates. For me she is really underused
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Well hello big surprise! Martin Fisher on Sky!
I think what makes this a big surprise is that Sky don't usually ever really make use of freelancers, especially not on live games, and yet we now have Fisher doing a live game the day after he'd done Match of the Day. Even if it was a last minute replacement - and he does live locally - as mentioned there must have been at least one regular commentator available. I'm pleased, anyway, cos I really like Martin Fisher, I always enjoy his commentaries which are a nice blend of energy and authority. I much prefer him to Gary Weaver, and perhaps it's a bit unfair on Weaver but I still only think of him as The Football League Commentator Who Isn't Daniel Mann, I don't think he's all that distinctive. Wouldn't like to lose Fisher from the Beeb, though. Actually I was reminded of when the Beeb had the live Football League rights and I remember someone being convinced that Fisher was going to do a live game, even though Simon Brotherton was billed everywhere. And it was Brotherton. But he finally gets a live game on UK TV, about four and a half years later. Incidentally I also see from the Radio Times that Guy Mowbray is doing West Ham vs Man City next Friday. |
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On another note just been catching up after returning from the mighty Albion i like many was very surprised to see Martin Fisher being used for the first time by Sky.
It's worth mentioning that Fisher is from Nottingham and started his commentary career on BBC Radio Nottingham, so this does smack of Sky Sports calling upon someone who lives locally and has worked for them in the (distant) past after the withdrawal of their originally scheduled commentator. As for the presentation of Sky Sports' coverage, is Simon Thomas no longer involved and solely concentrating on Premier League and League Cup action? It's a shame if that is the case. I would like to see Natalie Sawyer return as a secondary host, she was very good on their JPT Trophy and lower league coverage in seasons past and should still be involved in my opinion. I personally think Scott Minto is quite good in the presenters' role, but would like to see more of the games shared out between other hosts. |
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As for the presentation of Sky Sports' coverage, is Simon Thomas no longer involved and solely concentrating on Premier League and League Cup action? It's a shame if that is the case.
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Sorry if I've missed it, but who was down for world feed? Is there a gentleman's agreement that if sky commentator can't make it, world feed man/ woman steps in if required?
Probably not, but long shot. Most likely one off stand in. Might be proven wrong, but I bet Kelly is contracted to sky studios only on a sat, as she probably doesn't want a bigger role which requires outside broadcasts. Thus it will be Minto most other games. Maybe Pete graves might step in? |
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Sorry if I've missed it, but who was down for world feed? Is there a gentleman's agreement that if sky commentator can't make it, world feed man/ woman steps in if required?
Probably not, but long shot. Most likely one off stand in. Might be proven wrong, but I bet Kelly is contracted to sky studios only on a sat, as she probably doesn't want a bigger role which requires outside broadcasts. Thus it will be Minto most other games. Maybe Pete graves might step in? |
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David Jones confirmed Carragher for Super Sunday at the end of today's broadcast.
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Sorry to go off topic but does anybody know if any station is showing the African Nations in January?
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I would think Jim White would been a good choice for out of the blue FL72 coverage. But seeing as Jim is currently doing 2 jobs a day, TalkSPORT and SSN he cant.
How many hours was SSN live on Christmas Day, As i turned it on about 4pm, and Jim was on there then Live, as they had a live link to Bournemouth. Then come about 10.30 he was still there |
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Not sure if anyone's heard but Martin Fisher did a match on Sky yesterday. ![]() Quote:
Yes he did but to be honest no surprise for me, he really isnt up to his best these days.
On another note just been catching up after returning from the mighty Albion i like many was very surprised to see Martin Fisher being used for the first time by Sky. So surprising considering Sky have numerous commentators they could of used, even Bill Leslie could of popped up as it's not unheard of commentators doing 2 games in a row or even Ian Crocker or numerous one's they use on football first...Gary Taphouse even? Sorry TheSubaru but there is no way on earth Daniel Mann would be able to pick his commentaries......on that note i am going to ring my bosses and say i dont fancy working tomorow ![]() ![]() ![]() Fisher being used was a bit of a surprise. Not sure there's a huge need to debate/justify why Fisher was used rather than Leslie/Weaver/Mann etc. but what I would add was that he was doing the Leicester game on MOTD so it may well have been easier for him to reach Derby from there than for a few of Sky's normal commentators. That said he could be on it for whatever reason. Related to the above, one thing that MOTD doesn't always get credit for is the depth of commentators it has. Obviously there's the main 4 but below that there's the likes of Bower, Alistair Mann, Roder, Fisher, Scott, Motty and also some of the 5Live commentators. We may not always be fans of all of them but they are all highly capable commentators. On Football League coverage, think Minto does the job but agree he's not particularly spectacular. However, can't see him moving off the Championship coverage for a while. Kelly Cates is fantastic but can't see her doing more on Sky than that Saturday evening slot given her rising profile on 5Live. Think there may still be a presenter to cover those International break matches that George Gavin used to do but that'd probably be it. As to who that'd be - take a guess. Natalie Sawyer, Hayley McQueen or David Garrido seem the obvious candidates. |
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Err... No as a contracted employee of a company his employer who will allocate what games he does and then he does what he is told. Same employer will also do rota/allocations with plenty of things in mind including festive period etc.