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Old 03-01-2017, 12:24
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Sometimes I give him the benefit of the doubt; in this case he has once again got me to react and I hate myself for it. One or 5 of these might explain it though




They didn't "mock" the referee. It was a shocking decision, that was not a red card challenge. If it was then Phil Jones should've gone too. Yes the studs connected but both went for the ball in an honest challenge. Red cards like this one are killing the game as we know (knew) it.

The actual red card challenge came at 0-0 in the second half. The nation stopped production for a week to discuss a similar Rojo challenge that didn't actually connect with the player; this one will be forgotten about and everyone will only see the injustice in the first half red card and say the 2-0 was down to the referee.

2-1 would've been fair (despite the offside).



Even those of us watching international coverage are forced to endure this (and the constant, sudden, sideline closeups which causes a lack of perspective). The sooner we can choose a clean feed - on the red button or even online - in this country the better.
Was it a shocking decision based on the guidance the referees are given, I agree it should only be given as a yellow, yes he jumped in but when he realised he wasn't getting to the loose ball he took the force out of the challenge. To suggest Jones was at fault is nonsense.

The rules are there but the interpretation of them from PL refs seems wayward, certainly they do better on the continent but our refs ignore a lot of foul play I assume as they are encouraged to make the game flow, so the job get's harder.

Interpreting a dangerous challenge isn't easy but I am not sure all the information the refs get is helping them, two-footed challenges are not illegal for a start, if away from the player they are not dangerous. Rojo should have got a Red Card at Everton but the Palace one was just a media witchunt and again the refs are up against that.
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:46
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January update from John Roder's website: 'As usual I have Premier League commentaries for Match of the Day, and live games from France & Italy for BT Sport. I am doing the African Cup of Nations for Eurosport, and a new role as an FA Cup reporter for the Score programme on BT Sport.'
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Old 03-01-2017, 13:20
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How many live Sky PL games has Ian Crocker done? Must be in single figures?
Probably. Might be into double figures. 3 this decade. A handful in the mid-00s on MNF. Possibly a handful more earlier than that.
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Old 03-01-2017, 13:58
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Different Alan Smith as Notts County caretaker manager announced. Thought we would have another pundit gone manager situation then.
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Old 03-01-2017, 14:10
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Danny Higginbotham is the summariser at Stoke v Watford.
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Old 03-01-2017, 14:32
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GNev's next game is Utd vs Liverpool
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Old 03-01-2017, 15:12
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GNev's next game is Utd vs Liverpool
Uh-oh.

Manchester United v Liverpool is bound to be given some annoying nickname, and be shoved down our throats by way of relentless advertising, Sky Sports News coverage and countdown clocks.
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Old 03-01-2017, 15:13
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Palace v Swansea- Gary Taphouse
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Old 03-01-2017, 15:15
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Uh-oh.

Manchester United v Liverpool is bound to be given some annoying nickname, and be shoved down our throats by way of relentless advertising, Sky Sports News coverage and countdown clocks.
TraffordSabbath
RedSunday
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Old 03-01-2017, 15:16
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Uh-oh.

Manchester United v Liverpool is bound to be given some annoying nickname, and be shoved down our throats by way of relentless advertising, Sky Sports News coverage and countdown clocks.
The last time this game took place it was nicknamed 'Red Monday'. Can't imagine which name it will have this time.
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Old 03-01-2017, 15:20
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The last time this game took place it was nicknamed 'Red Monday'. Can't imagine which name it will have this time.
Given it's a 16:00 kick off they should go with Bloody Sunday.
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Old 03-01-2017, 15:47
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They should probably have more imagination about them than to call it Red Sunday, especially considering they are showing Everton v Man City in the first part of Super Sunday that day.

Can't wait to see what gem the marketing department comes up with after months of deliberation... it's gonna be spectacular.

It's going to be the type of name that makes you think "hey, I wasn't going to watch that game... but I totally am now!"
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Old 03-01-2017, 16:30
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East Lancs Road Sunday.
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Old 03-01-2017, 16:45
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I'm thinking Red & Blue Showdown.

Just to clear things up, it appears that the African Cup Of Nations is exclusively on Eurosport this year going by their last adverts and that ITV4 is not showing any games going by the provisional schedules.
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Old 03-01-2017, 17:29
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Red Monday part 2: Only this time it's on a Sunday
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Old 03-01-2017, 17:36
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Yikes - PLP viewers have Robbie Savage and Ian Wright as pundits tonight.

Whoever Sky have as pundits on Bournemouth/Arsenal now seem instantly better by comparison.

As for the Manchester Utd/Liverpool game - 'Red Armies' or 'Red Rivals' would be my guess for the match 'name'. Or 'Red Rumble'.
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Old 03-01-2017, 17:38
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Yikes - PLP viewers have Robbie Savage and Ian Wright as pundits tonight.

Whoever Sky have as pundits on Bournemouth/Arsenal now seem instantly better by comparison.
I await Dwight Yorke for you to be proved wrong
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Old 03-01-2017, 17:49
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I await Dwight Yorke for you to be proved wrong
For bonus points, he'll have to appear as the only pundit.

That said, I have a feeling Sky are saving him up for the Chelsea game tomorrow instead.
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Old 03-01-2017, 19:43
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AFC Bournemouth v Arsenal - Tuesday, 3 January 2017 - Premier League
Sky Sports 1 / Sky Sports 1 HD, Sky Q Ultra HD

Presented by: David Jones
Guest: Thierry Henry
Commentators: Alan Parry and Niall Quinn
Reporter: Greg Whelan
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Old 03-01-2017, 19:44
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Parry and Quinn. What a treat .
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Old 03-01-2017, 19:51
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Tony Gale is with Gary Taphouse at Palace v Swansea.
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Old 03-01-2017, 19:58
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SS are a disgrace in mocking the referee

The west ham player was right to be sent off as his studs went into jones
I don't agree the decision was correct but the argument that some of the comments were personal might be a valid one, On one hand, the comments from Smith and Quinn were quite refreshing and unexpected. On the other, they did perhaps lack nuance. For instance, Simon Thomas kept mentioning Ross Barkley's challenge that was only given a yellow by Dean in the Merseyside Derby and speaking about inconsistency but didn't consider if the leniency in that instance might have led to the harsh decision yesterday (rather like Craig Pawson not sending Rojo off at Palace and then dismissing Vardy three days later.)

I'm not always a great fan of Neville's co-commentaries but thought yesterday was one of his better ones and he was very fair and balanced in his analysis. Interesting to see Neville on Twitter criticising some of the comments about Mike Dean as being 'disgraceful' and he seemed to include some of Smith and Quinn's comments within that.

Some strange Sky assignments over the last few days, with Neville doing three co-commentaries across the BH weekend - now he's cut his workload a bit, it was odd he was used on a few lower profile games. You'd have thought it might be the time to put him in the studio for one. And then Hawthorne did Friday night and Sunday, but maybe not anything this round,

With the FA Cup third round approaching, I hope the BBC will use Jenas a bit more on their live coverage, including on co-commentary.
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Old 03-01-2017, 20:17
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They should probably have more imagination about them than to call it Red Sunday, especially considering they are showing Everton v Man City in the first part of Super Sunday that day.
The fact it's a 4pm kick-off reminds me of the match in 1995 which was the first one after Cantona's ban. Unusually for the time, it was part of a double bill, and they were so busy banging on about Cantona and the match, they contrived to miss the kick-off of the opening match.

Probably. Might be into double figures. 3 this decade. A handful in the mid-00s on MNF. Possibly a handful more earlier than that.
Yeah, I think he did one or two in the first Premier League season when Darke was unavailable, and then I think that was it until around 2004-06 when he did a couple of PremPlus matches. Around that time he was the main Football League commentator of course. He left in 2006, then came back in 2009 and since then he's done that last minute Stoke vs Fulham match when everything else was called off and a Monday night match during the period they were trying out all sorts of commentary pairings (Daniel Mann and Kevin Phillips did a match around that time), both in 2010. Then this one. As mentioned, though, he did loads for Setanta - he alternated with Jon Champion during their two seasons on air so would have done about twenty a season.

I wouldn't read too much into who's done what over the festive period, anymore than you could read too much into the rota of any organisation over Christmas. The hours I worked over Christmas and some of the jobs I did were nothing like what I'd do any other week.
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Old 03-01-2017, 20:23
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World Feed tonight:

Bournemouth v Arsenal - Jim Proudfoot and Matt Holland
Crystal Palace v Swansea - Gary Taphouse and Tony Gale
Stoke v Watford - Gary Weaver and Danny Higginbotham
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Old 03-01-2017, 20:36
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Peter Drury at Palace tonight for 5Live, reporting.
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