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Football Commentators Thread (Part 19)
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jlp95bwfc
13-08-2016
The BT Box (or "Pep Cam" as it is today) has returned with a vengeance.
The Lizard
13-08-2016
Dutch Eredivisie - Ajax v Roda JC Kerkrade:

Sky Sports 2 Red Button - Nigel Adderley and Scott Booth



French Ligue 1 - Metz v Lille:

BT Sport 3 - Steven Wyeth



International Champions Cup - Inter Milan v Celtic:

Sky Sports 2 - Ian Crocker and Andy Walker
fodg09
13-08-2016
BT's new graphics really are lovely - very clean and simple.

Managed to catch most of the build up from 11.30 on Sky earlier and thought it was pretty solid - effectively Super Sunday on a Saturday. Nothing overly original or refreshing but hard to have many complaints.

I can't help but feel that they have made a bit of a meal of promoting the new goals offering on mobile, however (and the app isn't particularly well designed) - it has the potential to be a very valuable and useful service if packaged in a compelling manner.
neilwatson
13-08-2016
Paul Walker on Wigan v Blackburn for the football league highlights on Channel 5 tonight. Gary Megson and Alan Curbishley will be pundits.
The Lizard
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by SSReporters:
“Having caught a Bein Sport feed, looks like Champion and Dixon are doubling up as the world feed, which is interesting.”

Yeah, interesting indeed. I would have thought the World Feed would have a separate pairing than JC and LD, but they have doubled up. Still, good that Jon Champion is still on PL matches for the World Feed & NBC US.
mromega
13-08-2016
Jon's commentary also appearing on the Sky Sports Score Centre app.
BFGArmy
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by CardioCortez:
“The EFL studio seems to be the SNF one. Kelly has done a great job so far. Great addition.”

She is good - and much better than her counterpart who's on BT at the same time. Simon Thomas was similarly good earlier.

Agree on BT promoting their live games excessively - I've flicked between the game and the Olympics and even then have seen BT promoting their live games 4 times

And the BT Box was back with a vengeance as someone else said - I still think it has its uses but showing Pep numerous times for 30 seconds and often blocking the live play as a result is not one of them

BT really do let themselves down - I genuinely they have all the ingredients to have really strong coverage and some good changes made this season. However, they do things or make decisions that make their coverage a hard watch.

Maybe I'm just used to him now but found Fletcher OK on commentary and far from the 100mph he is often portrayed at commentating that.
As ever when Mcmanaman works with Fletcher, plenty of Fletches but I expect at this point and Hoddle and Webb were doing it a lot too.

Not a fan of Hoddle on commentary though at all - much like at the Euros. Would much prefer the commentary if BT just moved to a 2 person commentary team - removing the Hoddle/Francis role - with Webb interjecting when needed.
mromega
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by pakokelso93:
“Is there an actual studio based goals/highlights programme at 8? I thought when I seen the plug it was the same-old voiceover FL packaged show? Or is Kelly Cates hosting a FL Tonight-esk show basically on Sky later? ”

Wasn't sure at the time, but just to confirm that Kelly, David and Ian have stayed on and are wrapping up the goals with a little bit of touchscreen analysis.
stato77
13-08-2016
To echo the sentiments of a number of previous posters, I too think the new BT graphics look the part. Their graphics' flat design and colour-palette is very en-trend and I like the way they incorporate the new PL branding. It's just a shame they stubbornly persist with the position of their scoreboard at the bottom of the screen.

It's a bit disappointing that Sky haven't taken the opportunity to refresh their graphics. The gloss effect is starting to look very dated.
stato77
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by derek500:
“Have the rules changed? I noticed the sponsors' on the cricket captions, too.

It's like being back in 1990 when Sky covered sport on Sky One and the sponsors were on the captions.

Incidentally, Sky, unlike BT are doing a unified UHD/HD broadcast with the same commentators and non UHD viewers are getting a downscaled version.”

Some of the graphics had been "supplied" by EA Sports in recent seasons.
loyalsince
13-08-2016
Match choice using slightly updated snf titles, but with (I think!) Hall of fame by the script at titles

I wonder if these will be fnf titles too.
sat-ire
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by stato77:
“To echo the sentiments of a number of previous posters, I too think the new BT graphics look the part. Their graphics' flat design and colour-palette is very en-trend and I like the way they incorporate the new PL branding. It's just a shame they stubbornly persist with the position of their scoreboard at the bottom of the screen.
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But that presumes that they think they've made a mistake. I don't think they do feel that way

As it happens, I personally - especially with new graphics - prefer it on the bottom.
The Lizard
13-08-2016
French Ligue 1 - Bordeaux v Saint-Etienne:

BT Sport 3 (Delayed Coverage) - Armel Tanguy
stato77
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by sat-ire:
“But that presumes that they think they've made a mistake. I don't think they do feel that way

As it happens, I personally - especially with new graphics - prefer it on the bottom.”

Oh yes - they clearly don't believe they have made a mistake. I'm judging this based of the negative sentiment that surrounds the topic whenever it is discussed (especially when BT's coverage first started.)

I remember reading an interview with a BT employee at the time that suggested the decision had been heavily influenced by American broadcasters.
sat-ire
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by stato77:
“Oh yes - they clearly don't believe they have made a mistake. I'm judging this based of the negative sentiment that surrounds the topic whenever it is discussed (especially when BT's coverage first started.)

I remember reading an interview with a BT employee at the time that suggested the decision had been heavily influenced by American broadcasters.”

Something new will always get a reaction.

I for one am grateful that there isn't a kneejerk reaction from most - if not all - of our broadcasters to stuff said online. How often do any of us read, or post, positive stuff on social media?

I'm old enough to remember the negativity surrounding the scoreboard when it was first added by Sky. Viewers, used to a clear screen on live football coverage, reacted strongly against it.

It also took a few years for other channels to follow suit.
jlp95bwfc
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
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A 'sponsored by TagHauer' DOG appears next to the scoreboard every 15 minuteswhuch it didn't have last season. Otherwise as you were.”

This is a Premier League deal with Tag Hauer. It will appear on all TV broadcasts and I've just seen it on MOTD too (albeit more discreetly than on Sky & BT).
BFGArmy
13-08-2016
Originally Posted by jlp95bwfc:
“This is a Premier League deal with Tag Hauer. It will appear on all TV broadcasts and I've just seen it on MOTD too.”

Indeed - it appeared on BT too.
The Lizard
14-08-2016
MLS - New York Red Bulls v Montreal Impact:

Sky Sports 3 - Dan Roebuck and David Prutton
The Difference
14-08-2016
Saturday 13th August - Channel 5

Football on 5

George Riley and Lynsey Hipgrave presented alongside Alan Curbishley and Gary Megson

Wigan Athletic v Blackburn Rovers - Paul Walker
Norwich City v Blackburn Rovers - Gary Weaver and Danny Higginbotham, with Jonathan Oakes conducting interviews (as Sky Sports)
Brighton & Hove Albion v Nottingham Forest (Friday) - Daniel Mann and Andy Hinchcliffe, with David Craig conducting interviews (as Sky Sports)

Championship round-ups - Dan Mason, Alex Gordon-Martin and Dan O'Hagan
League One and Two round-ups - Dan Mason, Nick Halling, Mick Conway, Alex Gordon-Martin, Will Cope and Dan O'Hagan

All of the featured EFL matches were the subject of a commentary or voiceover edit, as opposed to having one of the pundits voice the game, which was a welcome move. I really like the new EFL on-screen graphics package, it looks really sharp. Are the graphics we see on Football on 5 the ones they use on the EFL's international feed?
CardioCortez
14-08-2016
Originally Posted by jlp95bwfc:
“This is a Premier League deal with Tag Hauer. It will appear on all TV broadcasts and I've just seen it on MOTD too (albeit more discreetly than on Sky & BT).”

I think I saw it on the fourth official's extra time board earlier too.
The Lizard
14-08-2016
MLS - LA Galaxy v Colorado Rapids:

Sky Sports 3 - Dominic Johnson and Stewart Robson
Tony Yeboah
14-08-2016
Columbus Crew v New York City- Callum Williams and Matt Lawrence
pakokelso93
14-08-2016
Doesn't sit comfy with me (PL deal or not) that we are getting these "Brought to you by Tag Heuer / EA" every 10-15 mins. Getting a bit American tv.
BFGArmy
14-08-2016
BBC will be slightly disappointed you'd imagine with the MOTD rating - 3.1 million (slightly lower than normal I think). It was beaten by the Live Olympics over on BBC2 - 3.6 million - so not even the most watched channel at the time.

Judging by the hype MOTD (or more specifically Lineker's pants) was getting from the Beeb I assume they expected a bumper rating.
coventrywooo
14-08-2016
Alan Smith co-comm for Bournemouth v Man Utd just been on Sky Sports News being Interviewed
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