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Old 14-08-2016, 11:43
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Sportscene Results (Saturday)

(1600-1715 BBC Two Scotland)

David Currie hosted with Gemma Fay, Tom English and Craig Paterson

Dundee v (the) Rangers (1215BST) - Rob Maclean (FT only)
Aberdeen v Heart of Midlothian - Scott Davie
Inverness Caledonian Thistle v Ross County - Martin Dowden
Motherwell v St Johnstone - John Barnes
Hamilton Academical v Kilmarnock - Alasdair Lamont

Dumbarton v Dundee United - Kenny Crawford
Hibernian v Dunfermline Athletic - Brian McLaughlin
Morton v Falkirk - Andy Burke

Again, at full times, not all games in the SPL showed pictures when getting a report. I did like David cutting Tom off 'in his prime' as a goal had been scored.

Final Score from Northern Ireland (Saturday)

(1700-1710 BBC Two NI)

Mark Sidebottom hosted

Crusaders v Linfield - Thomas Kane (commentary)
Glenavon v Cliftonville - Jackie Fullerton (commentary)

As I didn't record this last week, today was the first chance I got to see it for this season. The NI opt-out also has the new logo and titles (but same music), and along with showing the goals a statistical caption will also appear in the bottom left (although only for the home team I noticed).

I've no idea why this only lasted 10 minutes, whilst the others finished at quarter past. Mark did say 'due to time constraints we're only able to show you those two games, the rest will be on the BBC Sport NI website this eveninig' After those two games they mentioned some boxers in the Olympics, then abruptly finished. For those five minutes until it could link up again with Network BBC2 they showed some filler programming.
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Old 14-08-2016, 12:20
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2016 German Super Cup: Borussia Dortmund v Bayern Munich (7:30pm) - BT Sport 1

Lynsey Hipgrave to present coverage with Owen Hargreaves and Andy Brassell.

Commentators: Derek Rae and Don Hutchison.
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Old 14-08-2016, 12:34
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Super Sunday - Sky Sports 1 etc.

David Jones is with Gary Neville, Jamie Redknapp and Graeme Souness for Bournemouth Vs Manchester United followed by Arsenal Vs Liverpool live from the Emirates Stadium.

Jamie Carragher is with Geoff Shreeves with a tactics screen in the Arsenal tunnel going over the teams in the early game.
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Old 14-08-2016, 13:14
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Super Sunday - Sky Sports 1 etc.

David Jones is with Gary Neville, Jamie Redknapp and Graeme Souness for Bournemouth Vs Manchester United followed by Arsenal Vs Liverpool live from the Emirates Stadium.

Jamie Carragher is with Geoff Shreeves with a tactics screen in the Arsenal tunnel going over the teams in the early game.
looks like its Tyler & Neville back together on the Gantry
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Old 14-08-2016, 13:27
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Super Sunday - Sky Sports 1 etc.

David Jones is with Gary Neville, Jamie Redknapp and Graeme Souness for Bournemouth Vs Manchester United followed by Arsenal Vs Liverpool live from the Emirates Stadium.

Jamie Carragher is with Geoff Shreeves with a tactics screen in the Arsenal tunnel going over the teams in the early game.
Commentary by Rob Hawthorne and Alan Smith.

Patrick Davidson is pitchside.

Neville has left the presentation team at the Emirates (presumably to commentary).
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Old 14-08-2016, 13:49
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Dutch Eredivisie - Feyenoord v Twente:

Sky Sports 5 - Joe Speight and Matt Jackson



French Ligue 1 - Nancy v Lyon:

BT Sport 1 - Alistair Mann and Adam Virgo



Wayne Boyce is doing the Chinese Super League game on Sky Sports 3, Hebei China Fortune v Liaoning Whowin. He did the game that was on yesterday as well, in fact he's done all the CSL live matches, bar the two last weekend, as Boyce was on Weber Cup duty (Ten Pin Bowling).
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Old 14-08-2016, 15:14
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Interesting that Sat night EFL is being presented from Sky studios – when did that last happen on a regular basis?
What is it with Sky and massive studios? I didn't like much of what I saw of this, I'm afraid, I think it's a bit of a waste of Kelly's talents. I also don't really see the point of the big touchscreen, I don't know how much it's going to add to the coverage, especially on the goals show.

That hour's build up seems far to long for me, ok the start of the season etc but as time goes on i think they will struggle, half hour for me would be just about perfect or perhaps a little longer on the much bigger games of the season.

i really think the same will also be said for Friday night games and Sunday's but i can understands Monday night's as clearly they will have the weekends action to talk about.
In many ways I enjoyed the build-up to Hull vs Leicester because they weren't messing around with any features, it was just chat and interviews, which is all you need, and Simon Thomas is an excellent presenter. However as you say they might have trouble filling the hour - Super Sunday has an hour when there's two matches but only half an hour when they don't - and although I'm not desperately broken hearted that Fletch and Sav is over, one thing I did quite like it about it is that it would talk about the whole weekend and look forward to all the games. I think it would be good to take some time out of the build-up on Saturday to look at the whole day, not just that particular match. Would stop it being quite so tedious if the live game wasn't all that.

Indeed they did - didn't have one before the 2nd half last season.

A 'sponsored by TagHauer' DOG appears next to the scoreboard every 15 minuteswhuch it didn't have last season. Otherwise as you were.
Yeah, another few opportunities for advertising in this year's coverage. Incidentally it's ten years since we had the first animated hoardings in the Premier League. How soon we come to accept all of this stuff, even though it is outrageous really, given the money we're paying.

Disappointed that Sky have kept the same titles and graphics etc. Definitely the worst titles they've had for years and was hoping we'd see a change in the music at least. BT's new graphics really are excellent. Simple but they look very good.
Yeah, I think Sky's chrome stuff all looks a bit outdated really. Just making everything shinier doesn't seem to me a particularly great step forward. Incidentally I was a bit surprised, and I wonder if others were, that we don't have a new font for the names and numbers on players' shirts, given it matches the old logo. Don't mind, I like the font.

BBC Final Score

Wolverhampton Wanderers v Reading - Seth Bennett

I've no idea if there was a reporter at the 1730 PL game as I was switching around on the olympic channels but when I came back to Final Score they had the teams lined up in the 'current score' corner like you'd see after a preview has happened.
It actually wasn't Seth Bennett, but Steve Bennett who I've never heard before. I don't know if was the former referee Steve Bennett (or indeed Bart Simpson having changed his name, obscure Simpsons reference fans) but he was very excited about Wolves in any case. Eilidh Barbour was at Man City, having nipped across from the studio after Football Focus.

I can't help but feel that they have made a bit of a meal of promoting the new goals offering on mobile, however (and the app isn't particularly well designed) - it has the potential to be a very valuable and useful service if packaged in a compelling manner.
Indeed, I'm not sure that Scott Minto-voiced trailer is doing much to explain it, and the slab of text on Soccer Saturday looked extremely ugly.

Paul Walker on Wigan v Blackburn for the football league highlights on Channel 5 tonight. Gary Megson and Alan Curbishley will be pundits.
Those primetime favourites Megson and Curbishley! Your Saturday night starts right here! I don't think that was a particularly interesting punditry line-up, Megson seems perennially fed up and Curbishley is Curbishley. He also managed to call Lee Johnson Gary Johnson twice.

I'm old enough to remember the negativity surrounding the scoreboard when it was first added by Sky. Viewers, used to a clear screen on live football coverage, reacted strongly against it.

It also took a few years for other channels to follow suit.
Yes, I've been reading a bit of Watching The Match by Brian Barwick (quite an interesting book, but he has quite an irritating writing style with too! Many! Exclamation! Marks!!!!) where he talks about seeing it on Sky and people at the Beeb being a bit snooty about it and trying to justify why it was a bad idea. But nobody could think of any reason why it was a bad idea, so after some umming and erring they introduced it.

BBC will be slightly disappointed you'd imagine with the MOTD rating - 3.1 million (slightly lower than normal I think). It was beaten by the Live Olympics over on BBC2 - 3.6 million - so not even the most watched channel at the time.

Judging by the hype MOTD (or more specifically Lineker's pants) was getting from the Beeb I assume they expected a bumper rating.
There were clearly mitigating circumstances, and if it was beaten by the Olympics, that's OK because it's all BBC Sport so they win either way. They can't help it if the Rio schedule means there's a clash, and Lineker obviously didn't have that in mind when he said he'd do it nine months ago.

Jamie Carragher is with Geoff Shreeves with a tactics screen in the Arsenal tunnel going over the teams in the early game.
What a bizarre role that is.
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Old 14-08-2016, 15:29
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Incidentally I was a bit surprised, and I wonder if others were, that we don't have a new font for the names and numbers on players' shirts, given it matches the old logo. Don't mind, I like the font.
Just quoting this non broadcasting related section from your long post Steve.

Given that this was knocking round online (after it appeared in a video produced by the people responsible for the Premier League rebranding), everybody should be delighted that the fonts haven't changed this season. They are doing for next though apparently.
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Old 14-08-2016, 15:44
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Super Sunday - Sky Sports 1 etc.

David Jones is with Gary Neville, Jamie Redknapp and Graeme Souness for Bournemouth Vs Manchester United followed by Arsenal Vs Liverpool live from the Emirates Stadium.

Jamie Carragher is with Geoff Shreeves with a tactics screen in the Arsenal tunnel going over the teams in the early game.
Substitution for Sky.

Neville out. Thierry Henry in.
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Old 14-08-2016, 15:45
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2016 German Super Cup: Borussia Dortmund v Bayern Munich (7:30pm) - BT Sport 1

Lynsey Hipgrave to present coverage with Owen Hargreaves and Andy Brassell.

Commentators: Derek Rae and Don Hutchison.
Hutchinson is a great co-commentator as he does great research on the games he covers
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Old 14-08-2016, 15:48
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Are Sky going to go with a three-man commentary box?

Jamie C is at the Emirates as is Gary Neville, but Jamie has only been used for a short bit prior to the Man Utd game.
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Old 14-08-2016, 15:57
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To confirm:

Commentary by Martin Tyler and Gary Neville.
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Old 14-08-2016, 16:00
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Dutch Eredivisie - PSV Eindhoven v AZ Alkmaar:

Sky Sports 5 - Tony Lockwood and John Scales



French Ligue 1 - Nice v Rennes:

BT Sport 1 - Paul Walker
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Old 14-08-2016, 16:24
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Carragher is on the Gantry with Tyler & Neville
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Old 14-08-2016, 16:48
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Very much enjoying having Gary Neville back in commentary- his criticism of Moreno is rather entertaining as a neutral to watch.
Unusual team from Sky today-all of their pundits being used. I imagine Carragher is at the Emirates to watch the commentary from Tyler and Neville and learn a bit before his attempt next week. It seems like they've decided to try and maximise him with the occasional thoughts from the gantry and the stupid screen analysis with Geoff Shreeves. I hope that doesn't become a permanent feature- the tiny screen just looked silly and there was little that they could do on it. Shreeves just looked awkward as well.

Henry joining them makes sense, although don't know why Sky have created themselves the extra expense by using so many pundits today. I wonder if any of them in the studio will make way for Neville when the game ends.

Jones doing well on his SS debut (although MNF is probably his biggest test). I was also very impressed with Simon Thomas yesterday, I rate him highly.
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Old 14-08-2016, 17:21
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To confirm:

Commentary by Martin Tyler and Gary Neville.
Jamie Carragher is on the gantry. Tyler handed over to Carragher for touch screen analysis during a break in play.
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Old 14-08-2016, 18:00
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Jamie Carragher is on the gantry. Tyler handed over to Carragher for touch screen analysis during a break in play.
Complete with in-vision view of all three .
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Old 14-08-2016, 18:17
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Jamie Carragher is on the gantry. Tyler handed over to Carragher for touch screen analysis during a break in play.
Just seeing Carragher in vision now confirms what I thought when I heard him speak on commentary re his headset. Needs to be using a lip mic like other commentators use up on the gantry.
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Old 14-08-2016, 18:17
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Carragher is doing what Andy Gray use to do
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Old 14-08-2016, 18:25
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Earlier today, Patrick Davidson was using a Premier League branded microphone to interview Jose Mourinho whereas Geoff Shreeves is using a Sky Sports one to interview Jurgen Klopp.
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Old 14-08-2016, 18:26
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I would be pretty pleased if today served as the template for Super Sunday over the course of the season - it had a real 'big game' feel to it and I thought the extra analysis pieces with Carragher worked well.

Credit to David Jones as well, he has been excellent.
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Old 14-08-2016, 19:16
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I think crossing to Carragher infrequently during commentary worked well. It was certainly preferable to BT's three-man effort.
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Old 14-08-2016, 19:57
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French Ligue 1 - Marseille v Toulouse:

BT Sport 2 - Adam Summerton and Clive Allen



Brasileirao Serie A - Santos v Atletico Mineiro:

BT Sport 3 - Wayne Boyce
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Old 14-08-2016, 21:09
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Spanish Super Cup 1st Leg - Sevilla v Barcelona:

Sky Sports 1 - Rob Palmer and Garry Birtles



MLS - Chicago Fire v Orlando City:

Sky Sports 3 - Dave Farrar and Alan Curbishley
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Old 14-08-2016, 21:10
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So with gabby logan mark Chapman & Jason Muhammad
In Rio who anchor on MOTD 2 tonight then
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