Originally Posted by casinoman13:
“Really? i thought it was all very cringe worthy at times and well below Sky's normally good standards of football presentations.
They should move away quickly from this young person's approach it really dosnt suit them at all and was an awful attempt to do so.
As there are only 10 games on a Friday night, they should of just kept it like their midweek special matches, start 7.00-7.30, quick discussion and then into the football, probably would save them quite a bit of money as well.”
They have/had to try something a bit different. If they rocked up at half 7 for a 15-30 minute suits and boots studio build up with Dwight Yorke - we'd be saying they've not bothered their arse with it - like the old Saturday lunchtimes. They've tried to engage with a market who will be a group of mates in their livingroom having a curry/pizza, few beers getting your weekend started. You have the pre-FNF and post FNF pub yoof shows then you have the main event with plenty of studio chat, analysis and some 'cool' packages/features. Tubes etc is obviously marmite to some. but the Soccer AM goes for their target, and you still get the nuts and bolts of the match and touchscreen stuff.
It wouldn't save any money really if they had half the team there, as I mentioned majority of that team are contracted so no difference. They signed up Riley and obviously Giggs would have a fee but the rest go wherever they are rostered to!
It is easy just to keep same/old. SNF didn't work greatly but again tried to make sure people didn't complain things were stale. We can't all age and just say we should have the same thing, then Sky's coverage would be like RTE or something with same 2-3 pundits who have been on for decades.
I've said Soccer Saturday doesn't really need to change. Okay you might want to see McInally or Cottee occasionally a bit more on the panel but as that is once (or twice) a week it still feels relevant with Sky having so much live football every weekend/midweek - need to think out of the box to have different feel to some nights.
Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“All the below happened:
-A section broadcasting from a pub which had a woman asking Carragher and Redknapp when they have dinner.
-A whole section dedicated to Soccer AM's Tubes and Nathan Redmond dancing (followed by clips of footballers doing dancing celebrations and a Razor Ruddock strip tease from ALOTO)
-Kammy running about the MU dressing room before the teams arrived.
I'm choosing to leave out the in-studio banter too - which was a blatant transparent attempt to mimic BT and Soccer Saturday.
What I don't get is if Sky are after the more casual, fun-loving viewer for FNF, surely they'd actually be out on a Friday night rather than sitting in to watch the football?
And surely that sort of market is already well-covered by the likes of FFC, Soccer AM and Soccer Saturday?
I didn't catch much after kick-off- was watching the Olympics and out with friends - but for me the show seemed a mess and more Wimbledon 2Day than Soccer Saturday.
I mean doing one of the features mentioned above could possibly be fair enough but there was so many features and gimmicks that the bit I saw seemed more obsessed with 'Oh, look what Kammy's up to', 'oh look who Rachel and Jeff were with' than the actual match coming up.
What makes Soccer Saturday work so well is while it's still a relaxed show and has plenty of jokes and banter at the end of the day giving the scores is the total focus of the show. I always worry whenever gimmicks start getting thrown into a show - at the end of the day people who are tuning in for live sport want to watch live sport.
Though if they do want to stick with this type of show then they really should just go all in and have the Soccer Saturday crew as pundits.
It's only the first show though so you hope over time they lose some of the gimmicks, cut the show length a little - and reduce the headcount on the show significantly.”
I feel the above misses the point a bit of the show. Again this thread isn't really the target market. Last week we where talking about how the glossy sky graphics were going to be changed or starting to date!
BiB - Soccer AM, FFC and the other pub thing is what 2-3 hours of programming a week - not a ton for the demographic.
We have a wide range of ages on this board, I can only speak as someone probably in the target market of the show (18-30ish) and obviously for me a lot of it worked, I'm not a huge Soccer AM watcher so things like whizzy 'cool' packages will be hit or miss, but Tubes/Nathan Redmond dance thing is one of those things that will get hits for the demographic and engage heavily with social media etc. Pogba-Henry was decent and Mourhino with Jeff/Rachel your standard vt sort of interview.
Kammy was a bit lively but was fine. Geoff looked a bit uncomfy saying welcome back at 7pm with the teams but no problem. Quite liked how all the team effectively linked after a break. Even at Half Time - Tyler welcomed as back straight off the back of it (wasn't handed over).
So on view it was different the build up, a touch Man Utd heavy, some stuff maybe a marmite/age thing to some but the nuts and bolts watcher of switching on 10-15 mins from kickoff and switching off after post-match interviews got the same service.
If every 18-30 year old age bracket poster here disagrees though then I'll shut up!