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Didn't really understand Shearer's analysis of the Liverpool penalty appeal.
'I know a penalty can't be given if the ball isn't in play'. They then proved the ball wasn't in play when the incident happened - so it couldn't have been given as a foul! |
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Random question of the day, but as a non-Welsh speaking person, I'm wondering why the whole of S4C's Sgorio programme is spoken in Welsh apart from the interviews which are in English? Is it to enable the wider media to gain sound bites that they can understand or something?
There's not much interest (sadly) apart from the North Wales Daily Post and the welsh lanaguage media in the WPL, the press here just tend to rely on those journalists who are bilingual to tell them about the League. |
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To answer the question about Rachel Riley, she was essentially a co-presenter with Jeff Stelling. I didn't see Friday Night Football at the time but having watched it back it was better than I was expecting. The format seemed perfect for Stelling, and seemed to suit Recknapp and Henry too. There were certainly some elements I could have done without, and I agree the pub thing was one of the worst things I've seen on Sky, but I think I prefer this to just a bland midweek special approach. Will be interesting to see how it works for Chelsea v Liverpool though - you might normally expect Souness and Neville to be involved in such a big game, but not sure I can imagine Souness in that studio or Neville riding on a motorbike to do a Gary quiz in a pub!
It was way too OTT IMO. They can't surely treat every Friday night match like it's the Superbowl or something, can they? Personally I do not have the interest for it, but that's just me. All I'm interested in the match, and maybe the usual kind of analysis and interviews thrown in - not a 4 hour event. Depends what you want from your football coverage I guess, but I wouldn't want to invest my time in this on a regular basis. It took me most of the week to get through it all on Sky+ by watching small segments of it at a time. One thing I know for sure that I won't be bothering with in future is the "In Off The Bar" programme afterwards. Ugh, horrible. |
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#1004 |
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Simply put, neither manager (Andy Legg or Colin Caton) can speak Welsh. IIRC, only Mark Aizelwood of Carmarthen Town has learnt Welsh (albeit about a decade ago) so he could do interviews in Welsh.
There's not much interest (sadly) apart from the North Wales Daily Post and the welsh lanaguage media in the WPL, the press here just tend to rely on those journalists who are bilingual to tell them about the League. Yeah, I figured the Welsh League wouldn't generate much outside media interest. Anyways, I was just wondering if there was any special reason behind this, not being able to speak the language is a good excuse! |
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MLS - Toronto v Montreal Impact:
Sky Sports 3 - RIchard Kaufman and Iain Dowie |
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You might have also seen on Twitter that Reshmin Chowdhury do a sneaky look behind the scenes, prehaps she is in for a role soon?
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Bit of failure for BT going to a betting ad, most of the screen was supposed to be for the betting ad but instead they cut the screen as normal but the BT feed failed so they hade to go to a full screen ad meaning some of the screen was filed with just black.
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Fascinating.
That speculation patter of half a straw clutch is getting tiresome too Subaru. |
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Saturday 27th August - Channel 5
Football on 5 George Riley and Lynsey Hipgrave presented alongside Shaun Barker and Chris Iwelumo Newcastle United v Brighton & Hove Albion - Daniel Mann and David Prutton, with Jonathan Oakes conducting interviews (as Sky Sports) Burton Albion v Derby County (Friday) - Gary Weaver and Andy Hinchcliffe (as Sky Sports) Cardiff City v Reading - Paul Walker Championship round-ups - Dan Mason, Dave Beckett and Sue Thearle League One and Two round-ups - Matt Williams, Jonathan Beck, Jack Woodward, Dan Mason, Dave Beckett and Sue Thearle Chris Iwelumo voiced the action from Ipswich Town v Preston North End. When I wrote on here that Shaun Barker would be a strong choice of pundits on Football on 5 earlier in the week, I didn't expect he'd be a panellist on the very next edition of the show! I hadn't seen that he was due on through the EPG or something similar when I wrote that! He was ideally positioned for this week's programme, given that he's just signed terms for Burton and made his debut against former club Derby in the Friday night game. I thought he made a good impression, naturally they asked him about his long-term injury problems and he discussed his comeback to the game in an interesting manner. He has a bright future in punditry ahead of him. |
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MLS - LA Galaxy v Vancouver Whitecaps:
Sky Sports 3 - Nigel Adderley and Alan Curbishley |
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Newcastle v Brighton- Nigel Adderley did the world feed commentary
PSV v FC Groningen- Tony Jones and Matt Jackson |
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Germany v Finland- Derek Rae on Wednesday
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Martin Tyler interview http://www.the42.ie/martin-tyler-foo...47473-Aug2016/
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He and Darren Fletcher have both, in my opinion, shown very little if any improvement in 4 years now but both have the biggest roles going covering football on their channel, really makes you wonder.
What's worse is it isn't THAT hard to be a semi decent football presenter - Sky churn them out from their Sky Sports News production line regularly - just ask good questions and let the pundits talk. Jake wants to be part of the gang so badly - suspect all the BT promotion has gone to his head. |
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Martin Tyler interview http://www.the42.ie/martin-tyler-foo...47473-Aug2016/
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Sportscene Results (Saturday)
(1630-1730 BBC Two Scotland) David Currie hosted with Stephen Thomson and Pat Nevin Celtic v Aberdeen - Jonathan Sutherland Partick Thistle v Heart of Midlothian - bored sounding Richard Wilson Inverness Caledonian Thistle v St Johnstone - Scott Davie Hamilton Academical v Ross County - Kenny Crawford Motherwell v Dundee - John Barnes Hibernian v Morton - Paul Mitchell Dundee United v Raith Rovers - Brian McLaughlin Only at Partick's and Inverness' ground did we get pictures at full time. Final Score from Northern ireland (Saturday) (1700-1715 BBC Two NI) Gavin Andrews hosted Linfield v Dungannon Swifts - Jackie Fullerton (commentary) Crusaders v Portadown - Niall Foster (commentary) Ballinamallard United v Cliftonville - Stuart Portis (commentary) Coleraine v Glentoran (Fri) - Lyle Jackson Carrick Rangers v Ballinamallard (Fri) - Michael Markey |
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Premier League (Nissan Super Sunday) - West Brom v Middlesbrough (Sky Sports 1):
David Jones presenting from the Etihad Stadium with Jamie Redknapp and Thierry Henry. Greg Whelan reporting from The Hawthorns. Commentators - Bill Leslie and Davie Provan |
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West Brom v Middlesbrough
world feed commentators - Ian Darke and Andy Townsend good to have Darke back on the world feed |
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French Ligue 1 - Bordeaux v Nantes:
BT Sport 3 - Simon Brotherton and Efan Ekoku |
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German Bundesliga - Hertha Berlin v Freiburg:
BT Sport 1 - Ben Andrews and Stewart Robson |
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Cagliari v Roma- Adam Summerton and Richard Hughes for BT
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No Hawthorne or parry this week then
If it is Hawthorne today, feasibly he could do every 4pm game until Chelsea v Manu in October |
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Enjoyed Sky's coverage of Spurs vs. Liverpool today. Simon Thomas has settled quite quickly into his new role and worked well with Graeme and Jamie in the studio both engaged very well with him.
I actually quite like 'three-up-top' feature they seem to be utilizing on the bigger games. It is far more nuanced and better deployed than the through-fare or awkward moment where non of the three knows whose talking you sometimes get on BT. On Sky, where it is only occasionally and the person is invited in at a appropriate moment I actually think it adds something to the commentary and helps create a big game feel. Jamie Redknapp actually was quite good, I thought his analysis of Tottenham's goal was quite well-developed and considered. The odd thing about Redknapp's bit is that they put "Voice of JAMIE REDKNAPP" on screen, as of course all channels do when the pundits are speaking out of vision, and I always wonder why they do that because they don't do it for the co-commentator, do they? And if you've just come in, it's far harder to recognise a co-comm than someone who's literally just been introduced with "Let's hear what Jamie Redknapp makes of this". Anyway, as mentioned there is the potential for a goal to be scored when it's going on, but that is presumably the risk you take with any kind of replay. Perhaps they could have some kind of box on screen? Quote:
That's exactly it. I've heard him over the years on Sky etc and he was always reasonable. But since he's started appearing regularly on BT I've noticed that he talks absolute rubbish, consistently. Not even stuff that's questionable but open to debate, he's just wrong.
Elsewhere on BT this weekend, Matt Smith of course made his debut on the Conference coverage and I enjoyed at the start how he specifically pointed out it was his first match and how much he was looking forward to it. It was like when Mark Clemmit always used to make a special point of welcoming new pundits to the coverage. That was all I enjoyed about that bloody awful match, of course. Quote:
It was way too OTT IMO. They can't surely treat every Friday night match like it's the Superbowl or something, can they? Personally I do not have the interest for it, but that's just me. All I'm interested in the match, and maybe the usual kind of analysis and interviews thrown in - not a 4 hour event. Depends what you want from your football coverage I guess, but I wouldn't want to invest my time in this on a regular basis. It took me most of the week to get through it all on Sky+ by watching small segments of it at a time.
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Thanks for the reply, I just wondered. It was an observation of mine from several matches, not just today. It seems to me that every manager/player interview is conducted in English... as I've found it to be the only part of the programme that I can interpret - although maybe there have been some exceptions along the way. You kind of notice these things when the rest of the programme is foreign to you!
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West Brom v Middlesbrough
world feed commentators - Ian Darke and Andy Townsend good to have Darke back on the world feed Nobody's mentioned The Premier League Show yet, which was alright I think. The main attraction was of course the Klopp interview which I notice they promoted as a "feature length" interview. The length of a feature. Ian Wright joined Gabby to pass comment on the items and he wasn't so bad, I find him quite engaging when he gets the chance to articulate his comments. Jermaine Jenas did a nice tactical bit about how to defend corners, using augmented reality to place himself on the pitch, which was a bit gimmicky but I thought worked alright in that it gave a bit of perspective to it and it seemed to explain it a bit better than Jamie Redknapp scribbling all over the screen. And the comedian Nathan Caton did a not a very funny bit about footballers on holiday, but I don't especially like him much. It was quite a good show but I don't know if yet it offers much you can't find elsewhere, apart from Klopp swearing. Indeed I think the Jake Livermore interview they did yesterday on Football Focus, where he talked at length about his personal problems, would to my mind have been the kind of thing I'd have expected on this show, where they can talk for longer and about more complex topics. You certainly watch telly in a different frame of mind at 10pm than you do at 1pm. Still, plenty of time for it to bed in. |
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Jon Champion is doing Portland vs. Seattle on ESPN US, which is why he's not done any world feed this weekend.
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David Jones has settled into the main presenting role really well for Sky
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Premier League - Manchester City v West Ham:
Sky Sports 1 - Rob Hawthorne and Niall Quinn Patrick Davison is the reporter at the Etihad Stadium. |
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Manchester City v West Ham United
world feed commentators - Peter Drury and Jim Beglin |
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