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As someone who does not subscribe to the BT Sport channels, I have a quick question for those that do.
Are BT Sport Extra 1-6 (or is it 7?) available via the red button or is it just a service that is available online for subscribers? Are they actually considered channels themselves? Many thanks. |
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Tranmere v Guiseley- Matt Smith and Natalie Quirk there for BT. Commentary from Steve Bower and Adam Virgo, punditry from Paul Hurst and Jim Harvey.
Natalie Quirk still introduced the highlights show, by the way. But that's not much of a surprise given the presenter's role in that programme totals about twenty seconds, and the links are filmed ages in advance. |
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Via red button on Sky, via channel numbers on the EPG on BT TV.
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Colombia v Venezuela- Dan O'Hagan
Monday 5 September on RTE2 Serbia v Republic of Ireland- Darragh Maloney presents. With analysis from Didi Hamann, Eamon Dunphy and Liam Brady, and commentary by George Hamilton and Ronnie Whelan. |
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Via red button on Sky, via channel numbers on the EPG on BT TV.
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also via Red button on Virgin Media. In SD not HD (same for Sky)
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Colombia v Venezuela- Dan O'Hagan
Monday 5 September on RTE2 Serbia v Republic of Ireland- Darragh Maloney presents. With analysis from Didi Hamann, Eamon Dunphy and Liam Brady, and commentary by George Hamilton and Ronnie Whelan. Its like having Jimmy Greaves as the main pundit on itv |
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One day to go until SSN's version of Christmas in Deadline Day.
This year they seem to not even be waiting for the day itself to start going wall-to-wall with it.Every show bar 'Through the Night' seems to be 'Transfer Centre' so far this week and all (again bar 'Through The Night') seem to have that gigantic newswall showing a transfer countdown. Their coverage of the thing is basically a parody of itself at this stage and frankly embarassing to watch. The whole thing feels like a gigantic in-joke at this point. The live they did with Jeremy Langdon just now really was poor. I think they've trying to top that 2014 Deadline Day - with the 1am deals, dildos, spray cans - which I'm not sure is possible especially if the deals aren't that big. Noticed Jim White is doing a daily show on Talksport from next month between 10am-1pm. Has it been confirmed if he's continuing on SSN? |
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One day to go until SSN's version of Christmas in Deadline Day.
This year they seem to not even be waiting for the day itself to start going wall-to-wall with it.Every show bar 'Through the Night' seems to be 'Transfer Centre' so far this week and all (again bar 'Through The Night') seem to have that gigantic newswall showing a transfer countdown. Their coverage of the thing is basically a parody of itself at this stage and frankly embarassing to watch. The whole thing feels like a gigantic in-joke at this point. The live they did with Jeremy Langdon just now really was poor. I think they've trying to top that 2014 Deadline Day - with the 1am deals, dildos, spray cans - which I'm not sure is possible especially if the deals aren't that big. Noticed Jim White is doing a daily show on Talksport from next month between 10am-1pm. Has it been confirmed if he's continuing on SSN?
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Noticed Jim White is doing a daily show on Talksport from next month between 10am-1pm. Has it been confirmed if he's continuing on SSN?
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Interestingly, it looks like the ITV highlights shows for England matches can now include highlights from the other qualifying matches played so far. It used to be that ITV could only show England highlights in those shows on the same night (because as rights holders they can repeat them as many times as they want) but all the other matches would have to wait until the end of that "round" of fixtures to be shown.
But Sunday's highlights in both the Radio Times and the EPG suggest they'll also be including highlights of Scotland, with Ally McCoist as one of the pundits. It's also going to be 75 minutes long and if the whole show was devoted to England highlights that would be very, very dull indeed (not that I'd put it past them). So that looks a bit of a step forward, if it's happening. They're still doing a show on Tuesday including every fixture. I wonder if it might be because no home nations are playing on the final day of qualifiers? Anyway, there you go. |
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Interestingly, it looks like the ITV highlights shows for England matches can now include highlights from the other qualifying matches played so far. It used to be that ITV could only show England highlights in those shows on the same night (because as rights holders they can repeat them as many times as they want) but all the other matches would have to wait until the end of that "round" of fixtures to be shown.
But Sunday's highlights in both the Radio Times and the EPG suggest they'll also be including highlights of Scotland, with Ally McCoist as one of the pundits. It's also going to be 75 minutes long and if the whole show was devoted to England highlights that would be very, very dull indeed (not that I'd put it past them). So that looks a bit of a step forward, if it's happening. They're still doing a show on Tuesday including every fixture. I wonder if it might be because no home nations are playing on the final day of qualifiers? Anyway, there you go. |
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Interestingly, it looks like the ITV highlights shows for England matches can now include highlights from the other qualifying matches played so far. It used to be that ITV could only show England highlights in those shows on the same night (because as rights holders they can repeat them as many times as they want) but all the other matches would have to wait until the end of that "round" of fixtures to be shown.
But Sunday's highlights in both the Radio Times and the EPG suggest they'll also be including highlights of Scotland, with Ally McCoist as one of the pundits. It's also going to be 75 minutes long and if the whole show was devoted to England highlights that would be very, very dull indeed (not that I'd put it past them). So that looks a bit of a step forward, if it's happening. They're still doing a show on Tuesday including every fixture. I wonder if it might be because no home nations are playing on the final day of qualifiers? Anyway, there you go. EDIT: Although only England and Scotland are playing that day I think so I think it's a fair deal... And NI. |
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Arlo White interview https://soundcloud.com/si-media-podc...sch/arlo-white
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AFAIK ITV's deal allows them to show same-day highlights of other games in England's group. So that's where the Scotland highlights will come from.
It would look bad to have highlights of two home nations and not the third. Even if there are obvious rights reasons for it, I'm not sure if it would make sense to the audience. |
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Great to hear Ian Darke on the Watford vs Arsenal & WBA vs Middlesbrough matches on the Premier league review on Sky sports
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Owen Hargreaves will be alongside Derek Rae for BT's coverage of Germany v Finland.
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Oh, you're probably right, actually. Northern Ireland are also playing on the same day, so we'll have to wait and see, I guess.
It would look bad to have highlights of two home nations and not the third. Even if there are obvious rights reasons for it, I'm not sure if it would make sense to the audience. |
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That's definitely right - they often showed the goals from England's group during the Euro qualifying campaign on those same day highlights shows
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How would we describe the new type of roles that Carragher had in ARS v LIV and Redknapp had in TOT v LIV?
And what about Kammy in FNF? They don't fit in with the traditional broadcasting roles, although can perhaps be considered variants of reporters and guests/pundits. Using MNF as an example, how would you fill in the blank? PRESENTER 1 = Jeff Stelling PRESENTER 2 = Rachel Riley GUEST 1 = Ryan Giggs GUEST 2 = Jamie Carragher GUEST 3 = Jamie Redknapp GUEST 4 = Theirry Henry REPORTER = Geoff Shreeves ________ = Chris Kamara COMMENTATOR = Martin Tyler CO-COMMENTATOR = Alan Smith Incidentally, when is the last time a match had two presenters? |
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CL talk time: Don't think Fletcher will be getting all the big games this year, I presume that Derek Rae will be locked down on Celtic games so he might be doing Celtic's first game against Barcelona. If Rae is locked down on Celtc then there will be the issue of who Celtic V City and City V Celtic. (Both play twice together) I think Rae will get Celtic V Manchester City and Fletcher getting the re-run going by Fletcher's game history. Presumbly Peter Drury or Guy Mowbray will get some British team games as well? Quote:
How would we describe the new type of roles that Carragher had in ARS v LIV and Redknapp had in TOT v LIV?
And what about Kammy in FNF? They don't fit in with the traditional broadcasting roles, although can perhaps be considered variants of reporters and guests/pundits. Using MNF as an example, how would you fill in the blank? PRESENTER 1 = Jeff Stelling PRESENTER 2 = Rachel Riley GUEST 1 = Ryan Giggs GUEST 2 = Jamie Carragher GUEST 3 = Jamie Redknapp GUEST 4 = Theirry Henry REPORTER = Geoff Shreeves ________ = Chris Kamara COMMENTATOR = Martin Tyler CO-COMMENTATOR = Alan Smith Incidentally, when is the last time a match had two presenters? |
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Think Kammy was just another reporter to be honest.
However, what about the gantry analyst? |
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Having thought about it some more, I'd agree. So, simply "reporter no. 2" in this instance. Quite simple really.
However, what about the gantry analyst? |
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I don't think there was a gantry analyst, although I didn't watch the game so can anyone confirm this?
We can cast that FNF game to one side now, what I'm getting at is that Carragher and Redknapp have both assumed the role of a gantry analyst (that's the term I'm going with!) for two separate matches so far. What I'm asking is how would you describe their role. I listed the traditional roles as an example. Would this analyst role up in the stands still fall under the category of guest/pundit for your folks money? Sorry for the confusion. |
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Don't think Fletcher will be getting all the big games this year, I presume that Derek Rae will be locked down on Celtic games so he might be doing Celtic's first game against Barcelona. If Rae is locked down on Celtc then there will be the issue of who Celtic V City and City V Celtic. (Both play twice together) I think Rae will get Celtic V Manchester City and Fletcher getting the re-run going by Fletcher's game history. Presumbly Peter Drury or Guy Mowbray will get some British team games as well? |
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CL talk time:
Don't think Fletcher will be getting all the big games this year, I presume that Derek Rae will be locked down on Celtic games so he might be doing Celtic's first game against Barcelona. If Rae is locked down on Celtc then there will be the issue of who Celtic V City and City V Celtic. (Both play twice together) I think Rae will get Celtic V Manchester City and Fletcher getting the re-run going by Fletcher's game history. Presumbly Peter Drury or Guy Mowbray will get some British team games as well? . Fletcher will get all the biggest games going where possible as well as Europa games with Utd at a guess. On a positive he cant do every looking decent game in 6 rounds so Ian Darke should have the pick of decent second games with then like you say Peter Drury and Guy Mowbray along with Jonathan Pearce the rest. Jon Champion should be used for more of the decent games in the Europa cup. From quater final's onwards Darren Fletcher will pick up every big game going even if it means travelling from one country to another in 24hours. |
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