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Football Commentators Thread (Part 19)
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pakokelso93
14-09-2016
Originally Posted by TheSubaru2012:
“Don't think Mowbray is doing a game tonight for BT but is doing a game for the world feed which means it will be interesting to see who commentates tonight for the Spurs game.

We know It's Jenas on co-commentary but the commentator is an interesting question, won't be Fletcher as he is doing the Man United game, won't be Mowbray as he is doing a game for the world feed tonight, Won't be Darke as he is at the Leicester game with Savage and it won't be Drury as he is at the City game tonight. Think it might be Adam Summerton doing the game as he retweeted a video of Kyle Walker singing to the UCL anthem.

Andy May is the reporter at the Leicester game and Lynsey Hipgrave is the presenter at the Spurs game at Wembley.”

Originally Posted by luketwill:
“Adam Summerton appears to be alongside Don Hutchison on Legia Warsaw v Borussia Dortmund on BT Sport X4.”

Originally Posted by TheSubaru2012:
“Interesting, very confusing to guess the main commentator...”

Just wait and see!
BFGArmy
14-09-2016
Jon Champion and Jermaine Jenas on Spurs v Monaco
Lynsey Hipgrave presenting with Glenn Hoddle and 'Arry Redknapp as pundits. BT going subtle as ever with their line-up tonight.

Drury and Mcmanaman commentating on Manchester City v Borussia Mönchengladbach

Bit of an ITV feel tonight with Drury, Hoddle, Champion and Smith all appearing (plus O'Neill did ITV's last World Cup coverage).
The Difference
14-09-2016
Wednesday 14th September - BT Sport 2 and BT Sport Showcase

Live UEFA Champions League: Club Brugge KV v Leicester City

Gary Lineker presenting from the studio alongside Rio Ferdinand and Martin O'Neill

Commentators: Ian Darke and Robbie Savage

Reporter: Andy May


BT Sport 3

Live UEFA Champions League: Tottenham Hotspur v AS Monaco

Lynsey Hipgrave presenting from Wembley Stadium alongside Harry Redknapp and Glenn Hoddle

Commentators: Jon Champion and Jermaine Jenas

Reporter: Paul Dempsey


BT Sport//ESPN

Live UEFA Champions League: Manchester City v Borussia Monchengladbach

Matt Smith presenting from pitchside at the City of Manchester Stadium alongside Uwe Rosler, Richard Dunne and Steve McManaman

Commentators: Peter Drury and Steve McManaman

Reporter: Natalie Quirk


BT Sport Extra

UEFA Champions League Group Stage
Olympique Lyonnais v Dinamo Zagreb (X1) - John Roder and Nigel Spackman
Real Madrid v Sporting CP (X2) - Jonathan Pearce and Danny Mills
Juventus v Sevilla (X3) - Dave Farrar and Jim Beglin
Legia Warszawa v Borussia Dortmund (X4) - Adam Summerton and Don Hutchison
FC Porto v FC Kobenhavn (X5) - Dan Mason and Matt Holland
Bayer 04 Leverkusen v CSKA Moscow (X6) - Alistair Mann and Ally McCoist


BT Sport 1

UEFA Champions League Goals Show

James Richardson presenting from the studio alongside James Horncastle, Julien Laurens, Raphael Honigstein and Howard Webb
LOSG
14-09-2016
Huge goal for Leicester City and Darke almost failed to pick it up. It was a very uninspired goal call, unlike some on here im not so surprised at his demotion.
The Difference
14-09-2016
Anyone had problems in using the Enhanced Player on the BT Sport app this week? I was unable to access it during the build-up to kick-off tonight (up until around 7.30pm when coverage of the BT Sport Extra games begins), while last night Enhanced Player streams were OK in the build-up, but failed during the first half before being sorted out after the break.
Tony Yeboah
14-09-2016
Juventus v Sevilla- Guy Mowbray and Dean Ashton for the world feed
Mark.
14-09-2016
So is it Guy Summerton or Adam Mowbray at Wembley...?
TheSubaru2012
14-09-2016
Originally Posted by Mark.:
“So is it Guy Summerton or Adam Mowbray at Wembley...?”

Guy Champion.
SSReporters
14-09-2016
Jim Proudfoot on Club Brugge-Leicester.

Unless I've missed something, no Martin Tyler on the world feed for either Tuesday or Wednesday.
pakokelso93
14-09-2016
Don't see the issue with Darke's first goal call... Called it pretty decent, scruffy head in. called it was history etc... no problem.
SSReporters
14-09-2016
Originally Posted by SSReporters:
“Jim Proudfoot on Club Brugge-Leicester.

Unless I've missed something, no Martin Tyler on the world feed for either Tuesday or Wednesday.”

Never mind. He's on Real Madrid vs. Sporting Lisbon. Stewart Robson as co-comm. Audio quality is awful.
CardioCortez
14-09-2016
Originally Posted by The Difference:
“Anyone had problems in using the Enhanced Player on the BT Sport app this week? I was unable to access it during the build-up to kick-off tonight (up until around 7.30pm when coverage of the BT Sport Extra games begins), while last night Enhanced Player streams were OK in the build-up, but failed during the first half before being sorted out after the break.”

I had problems today and yesterday with it. It's quite appaing really. Every couple of minutes it either lost pictures, lost sound or went off completely.
Jonny_Bentley1
14-09-2016
Savage was competent on what I saw of the Leicester game. Seems far more reserved and measured with Darke than with Fletcher (it being a CL game might play a part). Watching the second half of the Spurs game and I thought Jenas was decent in all fairness. Got a bit of stick on twitter (who doesn't) but talked sense and it was nice to hear a fresh voice on comms in my opinion. Just thankful they didn't plump for Hoddle on commentary by himself!
pakokelso93
14-09-2016
Originally Posted by CardioCortez:
“I had problems today and yesterday with it. It's quite appaing really. Every couple of minutes it either lost pictures, lost sound or went off completely.”

I've not had any bother with the player yesterday or today - and I have far from great internet.
Jonny_Bentley1
14-09-2016
And Jenas is on commentary for Southampton's match in the Europa League.
Don't think it would be too hard to assume Fletcher and Hargreaves again in Holland.
uk_xtreme
14-09-2016
I watched the Leicester match and enjoyed BT's coverage tonight. Now watching the highlights and they have access to plenty of capable pundits and commentators. Which again just hammers home how rubbish the Jake-ified Premier League coverage is! Fake 'laddish-ness', 3 commentators, cringey 'banter' on PL Tonight. Just copy and paste the Champions League coverage already
The Wanderer
14-09-2016
Originally Posted by The Difference:
“Anyone had problems in using the Enhanced Player on the BT Sport app this week? I was unable to access it during the build-up to kick-off tonight (up until around 7.30pm when coverage of the BT Sport Extra games begins), while last night Enhanced Player streams were OK in the build-up, but failed during the first half before being sorted out after the break.”

Struggled on a work PC trying to watch the Benfica game last night, but it was fine on my tablet.
popeye13
14-09-2016
Originally Posted by uk_xtreme:
“I watched the Leicester match and enjoyed BT's coverage tonight. Now watching the highlights and they have access to plenty of capable pundits and commentators. Which again just hammers home how rubbish the Jake-ified Premier League coverage is! Fake 'laddish-ness', 3 commentators, cringey 'banter' on PL Tonight. Just copy and paste the Champions League coverage already”

This!
I honestly do not understand how it is that BT can produce some of the best UCL TV coverage i have ever seen and yet get their PL coverage into such shit shape its stunning!
I liked Jake in his BBC F1 days, i thought that would transfer over to BT Sport and the PL, but he is becoming a parody of himself and that alone makes the BT PL coverage laughable.
The UCL coverage is top end and that has to be something BT Sport exec's see!
mightymillie
14-09-2016
Originally Posted by popeye13:
“This!
I honestly do not understand how it is that BT can produce some of the best UCL TV coverage i have ever seen and yet get their PL coverage into such shit shape its stunning!
I liked Jake in his BBC F1 days, i thought that would transfer over to BT Sport and the PL, but he is becoming a parody of himself and that alone makes the BT PL coverage laughable.
The UCL coverage is top end and that has to be something BT Sport exec's see!”

They are produced by two separate companies: The European football is done in house. The Premier League is made be S&V.
uk_xtreme
14-09-2016
Originally Posted by mightymillie:
“They are produced by two separate companies: The European football is done in house. The Premier League is made be S&V.”

But surely BT are specifying what S&V are producing? The rugby coverage and European Football Show are similarly good to the CL coverage. The PL coverage makes no sense in how weak it is
popeye13
14-09-2016
Originally Posted by mightymillie:
“They are produced by two separate companies: The European football is done in house. The Premier League is made be S&V.”

Yes, but BT set the delivery requirements, which isn't limited to picture and audio spec!!!
Jonny_Bentley1
14-09-2016
Originally Posted by popeye13:
“Yes, but BT set the delivery requirements, which isn't limited to picture and audio spec!!!”

I think people are just a little perplexed that the same company can provide very decent coverage for the CL and then not so much with the PL. It's the tone that's really different though. CL coverage is suitably serious but still with an appropriate level of humour, they use 2 commentators. The PL coverage tries far too hard to be pally and "down with the kids" and can be embarrassing at times, with the man-child that is Jake Humphrey, anchoring the coverage. Hoddle seems to be an almost ever present on PL matches in his 3rd man commentary role yet with the CL, if the team he used to play for (Chelsea last season, Spurs this), isn't on, he isn't often used (and he is NEVER used on comms). The CL coverage is also anchored by Lineker, seemingly with Humphrey not trusted enough to lead, and now it seems they have given him the EL to focus on, giving 2nd choice CL matches to Smith and Hipgrave.

You can forgive people for thinking the powers that be may vary depending on the competition at BT.
The Difference
15-09-2016
Wednesday 14th September - ITV

UEFA Champions League Highlights

Mark Pougatch presented alongside Roy Keane and Lee Dixon

Club Brugge KV v Leicester City - Sam Matterface
Tottenham Hotspur v AS Monaco - Clive Tyldesley, with Gabriel Clarke conducting interviews
Manchester City v Borussia Monchengladbach - Joe Speight
Barcelona v Celtic (Tuesday) - Mark Scott
Paris Saint-Germain v Arsenal (Tuesday) - Nigel Adderley, with Gabriel Clarke reporting and conducting interviews

Tuesday and Wednesday round-ups - Richard Henwood and Gareth Owen

Mark Pougatch voiced the three other games from the groups involving English clubs. Glad to see these highlights are now taking the form of just one 90 minute programme. Delaying News at Ten to get the highlights on at 10pm on Wednesday nights last season was a decent enough concept, but as someone interested in the overall picture I feel it's better to have one continuous programme than it is to break up the groups that have British involvement and those that don't.
BFGArmy
15-09-2016
Originally Posted by uk_xtreme:
“I watched the Leicester match and enjoyed BT's coverage tonight. Now watching the highlights and they have access to plenty of capable pundits and commentators. Which again just hammers home how rubbish the Jake-ified Premier League coverage is! Fake 'laddish-ness', 3 commentators, cringey 'banter' on PL Tonight. Just copy and paste the Champions League coverage already”

Totally agreed. I flicked around the games and the Goals Show on Wednesday but watched the PSG/Arsenal game on Tuesday and the coverage was strong throughout.

It's amazing what using a likable presenter (whether it be Hipgrave, Lineker, Smith or Richardson), not using a 3-person commentary team and using your better pundits does to coverage.

Have to say the BT 'in house' stuff seems much higher quality than the Sunset & Vine produced coverage. Which is odd since Sunset & Vine produced stuff when I've seen it is normally very watchable - including other stuff they do for BT. The Premier League stuff seems a real anomaly - it's not clear whether it's S&V or BT who are the cause of that but as Jonny says the coverage is far too cliquey, messy and at times just plain tabloid.

The Premier League coverage isn't hard to improve either. They actually have good pundits available to them (the likes of Ferdinand, Hargreaves, Jenas, Hoddle, Scholes etc. are proven in the studio) so use them in the studio as much as possible , dump the 3-man commentary format as it is (it's clear the team struggle with it and it produces more awful commentaries than it does good) and replace Jake with frankly any of their other presenters and the coverage is already better.
clever3000
15-09-2016
From watching Leicester vs Brugge last night it is clearly a much stronger team. Darke just proved he is miles better than Fletcher. The first goal some may complain was a poor call but it took everyone by surprise, you just need to listen to the fans in the stadium for that. Savage wasnt too bad last night, he seems to have become slightly less irritating in the last year. But i hope that im not speaking too soon on that one. Martin O'Neill is a very good pundit, he is articulate, what he says is interesting and he is humourous as well. A Very good pundit.
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