Gary Neville confirming on twitter he will be on suty tomorrow night. Although didn't say if pundit or co-comms I think safe to say will be alongside Tyler.
Football Commentators Thread (Part 19)
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Originally Posted by cook0891:
“Gary Neville confirming on twitter he will be on suty tomorrow night. Although didn't say if pundit or co-comms I think safe to say will be alongside Tyler.”
“Gary Neville confirming on twitter he will be on suty tomorrow night. Although didn't say if pundit or co-comms I think safe to say will be alongside Tyler.”
Correct!
And to fill in details for the Southampton game it's Matt Smith with Francis Benali and Gordon Strachan (according to my digi=guide). It also has Julien Laurens down for the highlights coverage so whether he's also on the main match coverage remains to be seen. Jermaine Jenas is co-commentator, though no word on main commentator just yet. I'd guess at Jon Champion (given his regularity on BT's EL coverage last season) or perhaps Simon Brotherton (who also appeared a few times).
Feyenoord v Man Utd BT Sport 3
Presented by Jake Humphrey with Michael Owen and Paul Scholes
Commentary by Darren Fletcher and Owen Hargreaves
Presented by Jake Humphrey with Michael Owen and Paul Scholes
Commentary by Darren Fletcher and Owen Hargreaves
I know this isn't a new observation, but Owen Hargreaves' method of commentary solely consists of having about 3 or 4 talking points and repeating them endlessly.
Originally Posted by Jamesp84:
“I know this isn't a new observation, but Owen Hargreaves' method of commentary solely consists of having about 3 or 4 talking points and repeating them endlessly.”
“I know this isn't a new observation, but Owen Hargreaves' method of commentary solely consists of having about 3 or 4 talking points and repeating them endlessly.”
He used to be worse than this when he first started out. I vaguely remember he said 'Wolfsburg are very dangerous on set pieces' with every free kick and corner they got against Man United in the CL. I think the worst example of repetition has to be Savage with Dortmund-Spurs, 'Why would Tottenham rest so many players,' for the full 90 minutes
I don't particularly mind Hargreaves on comms actually now that I'm used to him. But one other thing many seem to notice is his frequent use of hyperbole 'he's an outstanding player,' 'unbelievable technically' etc.
And after all that, it's Steve Bower with Jermaine Jenas at Southampton! I think this pretty much suggests that any attempts to guess BT's commentators are a waste of time.
Peter Drury and Jim Beglin were on Dundalk, BTW.
Peter Drury and Jim Beglin were on Dundalk, BTW.
Thursday 15th September - BT Sport 2
Live UEFA Europa League: Southampton v AC Sparta Praha
Matt Smith presenting from the studio alongside Gordon Strachan and Francis Benali
Commentators: Steve Bower and Jermaine Jenas
Reporter: Lynsey Hipgrave
BT Sport 3
Live UEFA Europa League: Feyenoord v Manchester United
Jake Humphrey presenting from pitchside at De Kuip alongside Paul Scholes and Michael Owen
Commentators: Darren Fletcher and Owen Hargreaves
Reporter: Des Kelly
BT Sport 3, BT Sport Extra 3 and BT Sport Showcase
UEFA Europa League Group Stage
Internazionale v Hapoel Beer Sheva - Jon Champion and Efan Ekoku
Coverage of this match will be joined at around 8.20pm on BT Sport 3 following the conclusion of their Feyenoord v Manchester United broadcast.
BT Sport//ESPN
UEFA Europa League Group Stage
AZ Alkmaar v Dundalk - Peter Drury and Jim Beglin
Panathinaikos v Ajax - Adam Summerton and Richard Hughes
BT Sport Extra
UEFA Europa League Group Stage
Sassuolo v Athletic Bilbao (X2) - Dan Mason and David Pleat
Zorya Luhansk v Fenerbahce (X4) - Derek Rae and Chris Perry
OGC Nice v Schalke 04 (X2) - Steven Wyeth and Stewart Robson
The BT Sport app's Enhanced Player has coverage of all of the other UEFA Europa League Group Stage games, taking commentary where available from UEFA's international feed. These commentators included Chris Cooper on Qarabag FK v Slovan Liberec at 4pm, the first game of this season's competition proper.
Live UEFA Europa League: Southampton v AC Sparta Praha
Matt Smith presenting from the studio alongside Gordon Strachan and Francis Benali
Commentators: Steve Bower and Jermaine Jenas
Reporter: Lynsey Hipgrave
BT Sport 3
Live UEFA Europa League: Feyenoord v Manchester United
Jake Humphrey presenting from pitchside at De Kuip alongside Paul Scholes and Michael Owen
Commentators: Darren Fletcher and Owen Hargreaves
Reporter: Des Kelly
BT Sport 3, BT Sport Extra 3 and BT Sport Showcase
UEFA Europa League Group Stage
Internazionale v Hapoel Beer Sheva - Jon Champion and Efan Ekoku
Coverage of this match will be joined at around 8.20pm on BT Sport 3 following the conclusion of their Feyenoord v Manchester United broadcast.
BT Sport//ESPN
UEFA Europa League Group Stage
AZ Alkmaar v Dundalk - Peter Drury and Jim Beglin
Panathinaikos v Ajax - Adam Summerton and Richard Hughes
BT Sport Extra
UEFA Europa League Group Stage
Sassuolo v Athletic Bilbao (X2) - Dan Mason and David Pleat
Zorya Luhansk v Fenerbahce (X4) - Derek Rae and Chris Perry
OGC Nice v Schalke 04 (X2) - Steven Wyeth and Stewart Robson
The BT Sport app's Enhanced Player has coverage of all of the other UEFA Europa League Group Stage games, taking commentary where available from UEFA's international feed. These commentators included Chris Cooper on Qarabag FK v Slovan Liberec at 4pm, the first game of this season's competition proper.
Originally Posted by Jonny_Bentley1:
“He used to be worse than this when he first started out. I vaguely remember he said 'Wolfsburg are very dangerous on set pieces' with every free kick and corner they got against Man United in the CL. I think the worst example of repetition has to be Savage with Dortmund-Spurs, 'Why would Tottenham rest so many players,' for the full 90 minutes
I don't particularly mind Hargreaves on comms actually now that I'm used to him. But one other thing many seem to notice is his frequent use of hyperbole 'he's an outstanding player,' 'unbelievable technically' etc.”
“He used to be worse than this when he first started out. I vaguely remember he said 'Wolfsburg are very dangerous on set pieces' with every free kick and corner they got against Man United in the CL. I think the worst example of repetition has to be Savage with Dortmund-Spurs, 'Why would Tottenham rest so many players,' for the full 90 minutes
I don't particularly mind Hargreaves on comms actually now that I'm used to him. But one other thing many seem to notice is his frequent use of hyperbole 'he's an outstanding player,' 'unbelievable technically' etc.
”
The one I always notice on his commentaries is 'extraordinary'. That said maybe that's just me noticing and we probably notice commentators using certain phrases or words a lot more than they do.
The absolute worst example of repetition for me is without doubt Ray Wilkins on Spurs/RM a few years ago. 'Stay on your feet'
Originally Posted by Jamesp84:
“I know this isn't a new observation, but Owen Hargreaves' method of commentary solely consists of having about 3 or 4 talking points and repeating them endlessly.”
“I know this isn't a new observation, but Owen Hargreaves' method of commentary solely consists of having about 3 or 4 talking points and repeating them endlessly.”
He can be a tad repetitive.
Have to say I've only tuned in late into the match but have to say what I heard was decent enough from him and Fletcher - and he does normally seem to get better and less repetitive the longer a match goes I've found.
Like Jonny I don't mind on co-commentary and there are other co-commentators I dread far more.
That said I'd prefer BT to use him in the studio a bit more - has he actually popped up covering an English side in the studio yet this season?
Did like Jake mixing up his metaphors post-match - 'Jose Mourinho's face tells a picture'. That said all presenters do that sort of thing from time to time.
Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
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Like Jonny I don't mind on co-commentary and there are other co-commentators I dread far more.
That said I'd prefer BT to use him in the studio a bit more - has he actually popped up covering an English side in the studio yet this season?
Did like Jake mixing up his metaphors post-match - 'Jose Mourinho's face tells a picture'. That said all presenters do that sort of thing from time to time.”
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Like Jonny I don't mind on co-commentary and there are other co-commentators I dread far more.
That said I'd prefer BT to use him in the studio a bit more - has he actually popped up covering an English side in the studio yet this season?
Did like Jake mixing up his metaphors post-match - 'Jose Mourinho's face tells a picture'. That said all presenters do that sort of thing from time to time.”
Jenas impressing again on comms. It seems BT have unearthed a decent co-commentator. Unfortunately the clowns in charge of the PL coverage will probably keep him as a regular on their score programme, thus keeping him off the match coverage of games (you know the coverage that people actually watch!).
Interesting to see if Harry Kewell gets any live football to cover as he and Jenas were BT's leading figureheads for BTS Score. I say that because with Watford playing on Sunday, I'd be surprised if he wasn't on the coverage given his coaching position with the Hornets. He'd still get to appear on the fantastic score show on the Saturday.
Originally Posted by Jamesp84:
“I know this isn't a new observation, but Owen Hargreaves' method of commentary solely consists of having about 3 or 4 talking points and repeating them endlessly.”
“I know this isn't a new observation, but Owen Hargreaves' method of commentary solely consists of having about 3 or 4 talking points and repeating them endlessly.”
He was simply awful tonight, if this is the new number 1 combination for BT then its the worst pairing by a long way, he really adds so very little apart from repeating himself no end of times.
He seems to take pride in trying to sound as uninterested in every match he commentates on, really has the art to make people switch off.
We all moaned about Owen but i would prefer him in the commentary box for sure.
Originally Posted by Jonny_Bentley1:
“Jenas impressing again on comms. It seems BT have unearthed a decent co-commentator. Unfortunately the clowns in charge of the PL coverage will probably keep him as a regular on their score programme, thus keeping him off the match coverage of games (you know the coverage that people actually watch!).
Interesting to see if Harry Kewell gets any live football to cover as he and Jenas were BT's leading figureheads for BTS Score. I say that because with Watford playing on Sunday, I'd be surprised if he wasn't on the coverage given his coaching position with the Hornets. He'd still get to appear on the fantastic score show on the Saturday.”
“Jenas impressing again on comms. It seems BT have unearthed a decent co-commentator. Unfortunately the clowns in charge of the PL coverage will probably keep him as a regular on their score programme, thus keeping him off the match coverage of games (you know the coverage that people actually watch!).
Interesting to see if Harry Kewell gets any live football to cover as he and Jenas were BT's leading figureheads for BTS Score. I say that because with Watford playing on Sunday, I'd be surprised if he wasn't on the coverage given his coaching position with the Hornets. He'd still get to appear on the fantastic score show on the Saturday.”
He thinks Sparta Prague have already been in the champions league group stages this season
Originally Posted by Jonny_Bentley1:
“Jenas impressing again on comms. It seems BT have unearthed a decent co-commentator. Unfortunately the clowns in charge of the PL coverage will probably keep him as a regular on their score programme, thus keeping him off the match coverage of games (you know the coverage that people actually watch!).
Interesting to see if Harry Kewell gets any live football to cover as he and Jenas were BT's leading figureheads for BTS Score. I say that because with Watford playing on Sunday, I'd be surprised if he wasn't on the coverage given his coaching position with the Hornets. He'd still get to appear on the fantastic score show on the Saturday.”
“Jenas impressing again on comms. It seems BT have unearthed a decent co-commentator. Unfortunately the clowns in charge of the PL coverage will probably keep him as a regular on their score programme, thus keeping him off the match coverage of games (you know the coverage that people actually watch!).
Interesting to see if Harry Kewell gets any live football to cover as he and Jenas were BT's leading figureheads for BTS Score. I say that because with Watford playing on Sunday, I'd be surprised if he wasn't on the coverage given his coaching position with the Hornets. He'd still get to appear on the fantastic score show on the Saturday.”
I sense you aren't a huge fan of the Score show Jonny.
Agreed - Jenas has been rather good so far must be said. Would like to hear him on PL commentary but not sure we will for a while - maybe when they show Spurs in the PL?
That said at this point we should probably all know better than to guess what BT are thinking.
Originally Posted by Jonny_Bentley1:
“Jenas impressing again on comms. It seems BT have unearthed a decent co-commentator. Unfortunately the clowns in charge of the PL coverage will probably keep him as a regular on their score programme, thus keeping him off the match coverage of games (you know the coverage that people actually watch!). ”
“Jenas impressing again on comms. It seems BT have unearthed a decent co-commentator. Unfortunately the clowns in charge of the PL coverage will probably keep him as a regular on their score programme, thus keeping him off the match coverage of games (you know the coverage that people actually watch!). ”
The didn't really unearth him though, given he'd been on BBC TV and radio, and ITV, before joining BT Sport.
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“He thinks Sparta Prague have already been in the champions league group stages this season”
“He thinks Sparta Prague have already been in the champions league group stages this season”
He hasn't been at his best tonight, has he. And he doesn't like Southampton much, by the sound of it.
AZ Alkmaar v Dundalk - Peter Drury and Jim Beglin
I watched this game instead of feynoord v mufc
They were excellent in making this game a top one
I watched this game instead of feynoord v mufc
They were excellent in making this game a top one
Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“I sense you aren't a huge fan of the Score show Jonny.
Agreed - Jenas has been rather good so far must be said. Would like to hear him on PL commentary but not sure we will for a while - maybe when they show Spurs in the PL?
That said at this point we should probably all know better than to guess what BT are thinking.”
“I sense you aren't a huge fan of the Score show Jonny.
Agreed - Jenas has been rather good so far must be said. Would like to hear him on PL commentary but not sure we will for a while - maybe when they show Spurs in the PL?
That said at this point we should probably all know better than to guess what BT are thinking.”
To be honest, I don't mind it. It's better than Final Score even if it pales to Soccer Saturday. Pougatch is a good host. But I'd just rather that's where they stick the naff lot. Keep Savage, 'Jamo,' 'Arry and co on there rather than wasting good pundits like Jenas on there. And I wouldn't mind to see Kewell given a run out on some live games. He might not be the next big thing but he is a fresh voice.
I think it should be doing the PL coverage on BT a service by keeping the crap out of the way.
However, I still think BT would have been better pressed using the EFS lot for something different rather than trying to replicate their Sky counterparts. But, I'd rather they sorted out their PL match coverage first!
Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“Agreed - Jenas has been rather good so far must be said. Would like to hear him on PL commentary but not sure we will for a while - maybe when they show Spurs in the PL?”
“Agreed - Jenas has been rather good so far must be said. Would like to hear him on PL commentary but not sure we will for a while - maybe when they show Spurs in the PL?”
I'm not a big fan of 3 man commentaries either but I reckon Jenas would make for a better 3rd man than Hoddle. As I've said before, NBC do it right because the 2 co-comms analyse well, have a good rapport and are engaging. Hoddle and Francis chunner on like OAP's on their meds!
Originally Posted by casinoman13:
“He was simply awful tonight, if this is the new number 1 combination for BT then its the worst pairing by a long way, he really adds so very little apart from repeating himself no end of times.
He seems to take pride in trying to sound as uninterested in every match he commentates on, really has the art to make people switch off.
We all moaned about Owen but i would prefer him in the commentary box for sure.”
“He was simply awful tonight, if this is the new number 1 combination for BT then its the worst pairing by a long way, he really adds so very little apart from repeating himself no end of times.
He seems to take pride in trying to sound as uninterested in every match he commentates on, really has the art to make people switch off.
We all moaned about Owen but i would prefer him in the commentary box for sure.”
I think we have a Hargreaves hater
I have this strange like for Hargreaves in that he doesn't seem to be one of the BT mould but he's still a regular on their coverage. Always thought he looked a bit out of place when he was on Fletch and Sav last year he never seemed keen to get down with the banter, preferring to analyse and get to the point. He's also one of the few on BT that calls "Fletch" Darren.
Let us take a moment to appreciate Owen Hargreaves (because people on social media aren't too kind either
)
Originally Posted by Jonny_Bentley1:
“I think we have a Hargreaves hater
I have this strange like for Hargreaves in that he doesn't seem to be one of the BT mould but he's still a regular on their coverage. Always thought he looked a bit out of place when he was on Fletch and Sav last year he never seemed keen to get down with the banter, preferring to analyse and get to the point. He's also one of the few on BT that calls "Fletch" Darren.
Let us take a moment to appreciate Owen Hargreaves (because people on social media aren't too kind either)”
“I think we have a Hargreaves hater
I have this strange like for Hargreaves in that he doesn't seem to be one of the BT mould but he's still a regular on their coverage. Always thought he looked a bit out of place when he was on Fletch and Sav last year he never seemed keen to get down with the banter, preferring to analyse and get to the point. He's also one of the few on BT that calls "Fletch" Darren.
Let us take a moment to appreciate Owen Hargreaves (because people on social media aren't too kind either
)”
Don't hate the guy at all just think at the moment he is awful in the commentary box no matter who he is with, in the studio different matter as he can come over very well but not for me in the commentary box.
Even Robbie Savage was decent yesterday and that's saying something coming from me.
Europa League highlights - ITV
Presented by Mark Pougatch with Glenn Hoddle and Paul Ince
Feyenoord v Man Utd - Sam Matterface (who also did interviews)
Southampton v Sparta Prague - Clive Tyldesley, with Sue Thearle doing interviews
AZ v Dundalk - Joe Speight (with unknown interviewer)
Other games were voiced by Tom Skippings and Mark Scott
Presented by Mark Pougatch with Glenn Hoddle and Paul Ince
Feyenoord v Man Utd - Sam Matterface (who also did interviews)
Southampton v Sparta Prague - Clive Tyldesley, with Sue Thearle doing interviews
AZ v Dundalk - Joe Speight (with unknown interviewer)
Other games were voiced by Tom Skippings and Mark Scott
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