Dutch Eredivisie - Heracles Almelo v Ajax:
Sky Sports 3 Red Button - Mike Sewell and Tony Cascarino
Sky Sports 3 Red Button - Mike Sewell and Tony Cascarino
Football Commentators Thread (Part 19)
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A very high profile weekend for Mark Scott on the Beeb - yesterday he did an in-vision piece for Football Focus, did the 5.10 bit on Final Score where they chat to a commentator and then got the main match on Match of the Day. I know the latter was just a bit of luck because there were higher profile games, but it looks like the Beeb are going to use him most weeks now. Fair enough, because I think he's quite a good commentator.
Anyone else find that the picture was running slightly behind the sound in the first few minutes of Palace v Stoke?
Originally Posted by chrisfinch:
“Premier League - Hull v Arsenal (Sky Sports)
Presenter: David Garrido with Niall Quinn
Commentators: Ian Crocker and Davie Provan
Reporter: David Craig”
“Premier League - Hull v Arsenal (Sky Sports)
Presenter: David Garrido with Niall Quinn
Commentators: Ian Crocker and Davie Provan
Reporter: David Craig”
Originally Posted by TheSubaru2012:
“For those who are wondering why David is doing the 3pm game today, McQueen is out in Scotland at the 'Pretty Muddy' event. I take it David will also do GOTD and Match Choice tonight as well.”
“For those who are wondering why David is doing the 3pm game today, McQueen is out in Scotland at the 'Pretty Muddy' event. I take it David will also do GOTD and Match Choice tonight as well.”
Did David Garrido present GOTD last night?
German Bundesliga - Hertha Berlin v Schalke:
BT Sport Extra 2 - Kevin Hatchard and Steve Cherundolo
Premier League - Tottenham v Sunderland:
Sky Sports 1 - Rob Hawthorne and Alan Smith
BT Sport Extra 2 - Kevin Hatchard and Steve Cherundolo
Premier League - Tottenham v Sunderland:
Sky Sports 1 - Rob Hawthorne and Alan Smith
Chelsea vs Liverpool - Introduced by Jeff Stelling and Rachel Riley with Jamie Carragher, Thierry Henry and Graeme Souness, commentary by Martin Tyler and Gary Neville
Sutton vs Tranmere - Introduced by Matt Smith with Kevin Davies, Chris Hargreaves and David James, commentary by Adam Summerton and Adam Virgo
The Football League on Sky Sports - Introduced by Kelly Cates with Ian Holloway and David Prutton, Cardiff vs Leeds commentary by Gary Weaver and Garry Birtles, Birmingham vs Sheff Wed commentary by Daniel Mann and Danny Higginbotham
Everton vs Middlesbrough - Introduced by Jake Humphrey with Owen Hargreaves and Paul Ince, commentary by Ian Darke, Steve McManaman and Glenn Hoddle
Watford vs Man U - Introduced by Jake Humphrey with Steve McManaman and Paul Scholes, commentary by Darren Fletcher, Robbie Savage and Glenn Hoddle
Super Sunday - Introduced by Dave Jones with Thierry Henry and Niall Quinn, Palace vs Stoke commentary by Bill Leslie and Andy Hinchcliffe, Spurs vs Sunderland commentary by Rob Hawthorne and Alan Smith
Yes, he did.
I missed the full horror of Friday Night Football because I was doing something else, but flicking through the recording we did seem to lose some of the excesses of the first one - I see the pub stuff had been excised completely, with only the briefest mentions of In Off The Bar, and there was slightly less contrived humour. It looked like Chris Kamara had been calmed down a bit too, less running around and telling us what a dugout was. And the team news actually was at seven o'clock, as opposed to last time when they were in an ad break when it was announced - though quite what the point of a "X minutes to team news" countdown is, I don't know.
Still seems pretty weak, though. The Klopp interview rather summed up the pointlessness of some of what they were doing, though, in that Jeff and Rachel were asking the questions, but then the link went down and Klopp couldn't hear them, so Geoff Shreeves just took over cos he was standing next to Klopp anyway. He may as well have just done the whole thing. And I don't know why you try and add glitz and glamour and then give us endless sequences of the pundits scribbling on the touchscreen. It's not detailed enough to tell us anything illuminating and not short enough to be interesting.
Sutton vs Tranmere - Introduced by Matt Smith with Kevin Davies, Chris Hargreaves and David James, commentary by Adam Summerton and Adam Virgo
The Football League on Sky Sports - Introduced by Kelly Cates with Ian Holloway and David Prutton, Cardiff vs Leeds commentary by Gary Weaver and Garry Birtles, Birmingham vs Sheff Wed commentary by Daniel Mann and Danny Higginbotham
Everton vs Middlesbrough - Introduced by Jake Humphrey with Owen Hargreaves and Paul Ince, commentary by Ian Darke, Steve McManaman and Glenn Hoddle
Watford vs Man U - Introduced by Jake Humphrey with Steve McManaman and Paul Scholes, commentary by Darren Fletcher, Robbie Savage and Glenn Hoddle
Super Sunday - Introduced by Dave Jones with Thierry Henry and Niall Quinn, Palace vs Stoke commentary by Bill Leslie and Andy Hinchcliffe, Spurs vs Sunderland commentary by Rob Hawthorne and Alan Smith
Originally Posted by chrisr21:
“Did David Garrido present GOTD last night?”
“Did David Garrido present GOTD last night?”
Yes, he did.
I missed the full horror of Friday Night Football because I was doing something else, but flicking through the recording we did seem to lose some of the excesses of the first one - I see the pub stuff had been excised completely, with only the briefest mentions of In Off The Bar, and there was slightly less contrived humour. It looked like Chris Kamara had been calmed down a bit too, less running around and telling us what a dugout was. And the team news actually was at seven o'clock, as opposed to last time when they were in an ad break when it was announced - though quite what the point of a "X minutes to team news" countdown is, I don't know.
Still seems pretty weak, though. The Klopp interview rather summed up the pointlessness of some of what they were doing, though, in that Jeff and Rachel were asking the questions, but then the link went down and Klopp couldn't hear them, so Geoff Shreeves just took over cos he was standing next to Klopp anyway. He may as well have just done the whole thing. And I don't know why you try and add glitz and glamour and then give us endless sequences of the pundits scribbling on the touchscreen. It's not detailed enough to tell us anything illuminating and not short enough to be interesting.
Originally Posted by The Lizard:
“Yes, we'll await confirmation of the pairing for Tottenham v Sunderland later, and if it isn't Alan Parry on comms, then that will be indeed his second weekend missing out so far this season.
Bill Leslie has another Premier League match, and well deserved, I like him. Also, I like Andy Hinchcliffe's co-commentaries, and he's on another PL match, so both are doing quite well so far this season, and long it may continue!”
“Yes, we'll await confirmation of the pairing for Tottenham v Sunderland later, and if it isn't Alan Parry on comms, then that will be indeed his second weekend missing out so far this season.
Bill Leslie has another Premier League match, and well deserved, I like him. Also, I like Andy Hinchcliffe's co-commentaries, and he's on another PL match, so both are doing quite well so far this season, and long it may continue!”
Tottenham Vs Sunderland - Rob Hawthorne and Alan Smith
Originally Posted by The Scout:
“Anyone else find that the picture was running slightly behind the sound in the first few minutes of Palace v Stoke?”
“Anyone else find that the picture was running slightly behind the sound in the first few minutes of Palace v Stoke?”
Yes I noticed that too. Noticeable on the first 2 goals but then they seemed to correct it as the sound dropped out for a few seconds at one point.
Italian Serie A - Fiorentina v Roma:
BT Sport 2 - Ben Andrews and Nigel Spackman
Spanish La Liga - Espanyol v Real Madrid:
Sky Sports 1 - Rob Palmer and Terry Gibson
BT Sport 2 - Ben Andrews and Nigel Spackman
Spanish La Liga - Espanyol v Real Madrid:
Sky Sports 1 - Rob Palmer and Terry Gibson
Last one until Saturday:
MLS - Toronto v New York Red Bulls:
Sky Sports 3 - Phil Blacker and Iain Dowie
MLS - Toronto v New York Red Bulls:
Sky Sports 3 - Phil Blacker and Iain Dowie
Apparently, back in 2010 - the Championship play-off final between Blackpool and Cardiff that was live on Sky had two sets of different commentators. Bill Leslie and Don Goodman did the commentary on Sky Sports 1 whereas Daniel Mann and Gary Birtles did it on the Sky 3D channel.
I'm not someone who ever experienced 3D football coverage. On the face of it, I can't think of a reason why there would be different commentary available. I'm sure that a lot of people would be glad of a choice of commentaries from game to game, but would there have been any particular reason for not using the same audio track on both channels?
Would it be because it was filmed using different cameras to standard HD, meaning that there would have been the potential for comments to be made on things that the viewer wasn't seeing at that time?
I'm not someone who ever experienced 3D football coverage. On the face of it, I can't think of a reason why there would be different commentary available. I'm sure that a lot of people would be glad of a choice of commentaries from game to game, but would there have been any particular reason for not using the same audio track on both channels?
Would it be because it was filmed using different cameras to standard HD, meaning that there would have been the potential for comments to be made on things that the viewer wasn't seeing at that time?
Originally Posted by The Scout:
“Would it be because it was filmed using different cameras to standard HD, meaning that there would have been the potential for comments to be made on things that the viewer wasn't seeing at that time?”
“Would it be because it was filmed using different cameras to standard HD, meaning that there would have been the potential for comments to be made on things that the viewer wasn't seeing at that time?”
That's precisely the reason.
Originally Posted by The Scout:
“Apparently, back in 2010 - the Championship play-off final between Blackpool and Cardiff that was live on Sky had two sets of different commentators. Bill Leslie and Don Goodman did the commentary on Sky Sports 1 whereas Daniel Mann and Gary Birtles did it on the Sky 3D channel.
I'm not someone who ever experienced 3D football coverage. On the face of it, I can't think of a reason why there would be different commentary available. I'm sure that a lot of people would be glad of a choice of commentaries from game to game, but would there have been any particular reason for not using the same audio track on both channels?
Would it be because it was filmed using different cameras to standard HD, meaning that there would have been the potential for comments to be made on things that the viewer wasn't seeing at that time?”
“Apparently, back in 2010 - the Championship play-off final between Blackpool and Cardiff that was live on Sky had two sets of different commentators. Bill Leslie and Don Goodman did the commentary on Sky Sports 1 whereas Daniel Mann and Gary Birtles did it on the Sky 3D channel.
I'm not someone who ever experienced 3D football coverage. On the face of it, I can't think of a reason why there would be different commentary available. I'm sure that a lot of people would be glad of a choice of commentaries from game to game, but would there have been any particular reason for not using the same audio track on both channels?
Would it be because it was filmed using different cameras to standard HD, meaning that there would have been the potential for comments to be made on things that the viewer wasn't seeing at that time?”
Nail on the head.
Originally Posted by The Scout:
“Apparently, back in 2010 - the Championship play-off final between Blackpool and Cardiff that was live on Sky had two sets of different commentators. Bill Leslie and Don Goodman did the commentary on Sky Sports 1 whereas Daniel Mann and Gary Birtles did it on the Sky 3D channel.
I'm not someone who ever experienced 3D football coverage. On the face of it, I can't think of a reason why there would be different commentary available. I'm sure that a lot of people would be glad of a choice of commentaries from game to game, but would there have been any particular reason for not using the same audio track on both channels?
Would it be because it was filmed using different cameras to standard HD, meaning that there would have been the potential for comments to be made on things that the viewer wasn't seeing at that time?”
“Apparently, back in 2010 - the Championship play-off final between Blackpool and Cardiff that was live on Sky had two sets of different commentators. Bill Leslie and Don Goodman did the commentary on Sky Sports 1 whereas Daniel Mann and Gary Birtles did it on the Sky 3D channel.
I'm not someone who ever experienced 3D football coverage. On the face of it, I can't think of a reason why there would be different commentary available. I'm sure that a lot of people would be glad of a choice of commentaries from game to game, but would there have been any particular reason for not using the same audio track on both channels?
Would it be because it was filmed using different cameras to standard HD, meaning that there would have been the potential for comments to be made on things that the viewer wasn't seeing at that time?”
Correct. It was an entirely separate production with its own cameras, its own director and its own action replays.
Originally Posted by The Scout:
“Apparently, back in 2010 - the Championship play-off final between Blackpool and Cardiff that was live on Sky had two sets of different commentators. Bill Leslie and Don Goodman did the commentary on Sky Sports 1 whereas Daniel Mann and Gary Birtles did it on the Sky 3D channel.
I'm not someone who ever experienced 3D football coverage. On the face of it, I can't think of a reason why there would be different commentary available. I'm sure that a lot of people would be glad of a choice of commentaries from game to game, but would there have been any particular reason for not using the same audio track on both channels?
Would it be because it was filmed using different cameras to standard HD, meaning that there would have been the potential for comments to be made on things that the viewer wasn't seeing at that time?”
“Apparently, back in 2010 - the Championship play-off final between Blackpool and Cardiff that was live on Sky had two sets of different commentators. Bill Leslie and Don Goodman did the commentary on Sky Sports 1 whereas Daniel Mann and Gary Birtles did it on the Sky 3D channel.
I'm not someone who ever experienced 3D football coverage. On the face of it, I can't think of a reason why there would be different commentary available. I'm sure that a lot of people would be glad of a choice of commentaries from game to game, but would there have been any particular reason for not using the same audio track on both channels?
Would it be because it was filmed using different cameras to standard HD, meaning that there would have been the potential for comments to be made on things that the viewer wasn't seeing at that time?”
Yes, that's it, all Sky's 3D football was like that because of the different camera angles. Ditto with BT's Ultra HD coverage last season, although they're using the same angles and coverage this year.
Edit: Beaten to it by 3 people!!!
Haha, thanks all for replying in unison! 
The possible explanation only occurred to me as I was typing, so I bolted that bit on the end of my post.
Like I say, I never saw a match in 3D so it wasn't immediately obvious to me.
The possible explanation only occurred to me as I was typing, so I bolted that bit on the end of my post.
Like I say, I never saw a match in 3D so it wasn't immediately obvious to me.
Kenneth Wostenholme scandal https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...for-a-shilling
Rangers v Queen of the South- Tom Miller and Gordon Smith for RangersTV
Latest from Derek Rae: '3 Betfred Cup comms games this midweek - Ibrox, Celtic Park and Pittodrie then back to Germany for HSV-Bayern world feed at the weekend. For those who like to take note of different TV approaches, we will be back to 3-man comm box for the Betfred Cup this week, as in early rounds.'
Rangers v Queen of the South- Tom Miller and Gordon Smith for RangersTV
Latest from Derek Rae: '3 Betfred Cup comms games this midweek - Ibrox, Celtic Park and Pittodrie then back to Germany for HSV-Bayern world feed at the weekend. For those who like to take note of different TV approaches, we will be back to 3-man comm box for the Betfred Cup this week, as in early rounds.'
Deportivo Alaves v Deportivo la Coruna - Sky Sports 1 - Jon Driscoll & Terry Gibson
Benfica v Sporting Braga - BT Sport 1 - Seb Hutchinson
Benfica v Sporting Braga - BT Sport 1 - Seb Hutchinson
2 posts in one day on this thread 
I know there was no live UK football, but come on guys!
I was thinking of my dream line up of a game, it is Humphs, Jamo, 'Arry & Dwight Yorke
Commentary from Fletch, HargyHargreaves & Mickey Owen. Reporters include Piers Morgan & Roland Rat.
Any thoughts?
I know there was no live UK football, but come on guys!
I was thinking of my dream line up of a game, it is Humphs, Jamo, 'Arry & Dwight Yorke
Commentary from Fletch, HargyHargreaves & Mickey Owen. Reporters include Piers Morgan & Roland Rat.
Any thoughts?
Originally Posted by bwfcol:
“2 posts in one day on this thread
I know there was no live UK football, but come on guys!
I was thinking of my dream line up of a game, it is Humphs, Jamo, 'Arry & Dwight Yorke
Commentary from Fletch, HargyHargreaves & Mickey Owen. Reporters include Piers Morgan & Roland Rat.
Any thoughts?”
“2 posts in one day on this thread
I know there was no live UK football, but come on guys!
I was thinking of my dream line up of a game, it is Humphs, Jamo, 'Arry & Dwight Yorke
Commentary from Fletch, HargyHargreaves & Mickey Owen. Reporters include Piers Morgan & Roland Rat.
Any thoughts?”
Not bad. Think you're missing out on a Savage/Francis 3 man commentary team there but hey ho
Also, if not confined to BT, I'd have Alan Green as main commentator. I know some of the thread quite like him but he'd be a nightmare in that 3 man setup I reckon and I'm not a big fan anyway.
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