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Football Commentators Thread (Part 19)
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digiremote
25-09-2016
Fiorentina v AC Milan (7:45pm) - BT Sport 2.

Commentators: Adam Summerton and Nigel Spackman.
casinoman13
25-09-2016
Originally Posted by The Scout:
“Question: Has anyone else other than Bill Leslie, Daniel Mann or Gary Weaver commentated on Football League matches for Sky over the past few years?

How many years ago was it that Ian Crocker made the switch to solely Scottish games?”

May be wrong but i think Tony Jones may of done one or two but that's about it.
casinoman13
25-09-2016
Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“The Jamo fanclub out in force as ever.





Can BT ever win with their co-commentary selections mind? Not sure I've actually heard many where people have gone 'yeah, that sounds good'.
Not that I'm saying we're wrong to criticise necessarily.

I'll have Keown as a co-commentary though if it means Hargreaves is used as a pundit.

Have to say Klopp is a fantastic signing for tomorrow's MNF. He's a very watchable, likable guy and I heard he was brilliant whenever he's done it on German TV (before he became a manager).”

Can any channel at times?

I have wondered why BT have never considered using Jim Beglin? but i think BT just want to go down the line of mostly young and past recent footballer's.

I was getting quite used to Michael Owen but i think the axe has finally come down on him in the commentary box after years of constant moaning and groaning on social media.

I can tolerate Steve Macnanaman but mostly when he is not with Fletcher and as for Hargreaves, well most on here know my views on him.

Robbie Savage can also be quite good, last Weds with Darke he really came across well with decent points and analysis but in a 3man commentary he just simply wants to be heard the most and can be so argumentive just for the sake of it.
casinoman13
25-09-2016
Just want to make a quick point about Darren Fletcher, as much as i don't rate him anywhere near the standards of Darke, Tyler or even Rob Hawthorne i did find him a very easy listen when he presented Fletch and Sav over the past few seasons.

He seemed to command authority, knew what question's to ask and didn't take the show away from the pundits, so yes i also think he would make a very good presenter over Humphrey's.

On the subject of his work load, well there is no doubt the like's of Tyler or Darke would probably struggle but at times i think even he could burn himself out, on top of his football comitments and Radio he also has a lot of NFL in the near future so i hope for his sake he is not prone to winter sickness and cold's.
The Lizard
25-09-2016
Spanish La Liga - Espanyol v Celta Vigo:

Sky Sports 1 - Jon Driscoll and David Phillips



French Ligue 1 - Marseille v Nantes:

BT Sport 1 - John Roder and Kevin Gallacher



Brasileirao Serie A - Corinthians v Fluminense:

BT Sport 3 - Dan Mason
pablom
25-09-2016
Originally Posted by casinoman13:
“May be wrong but i think Tony Jones may of done one or two but that's about it.”

Rob Palmer did a few L1/2 games during international breaks last season I seem to remember.
casinoman13
25-09-2016
Originally Posted by CardioCortez:
“You're early. There's a game tomorrow :P

Wonder whether it's BL or AP on comms.”

I have a feeling it may be Bill Leslie again just because he again didn't do a League game Fri or Sat.

Maybe this is the season for sure when he is going to do more games than Alan Parry?

For the record was Parry's last game or games on a 4 game weekend for Sky?
flipxside
25-09-2016
Originally Posted by The Scout:
“Question: Has anyone else other than Bill Leslie, Daniel Mann or Gary Weaver commentated on Football League matches for Sky over the past few years?

How many years ago was it that Ian Crocker made the switch to solely Scottish games?”

Ian Crocker last commentated on Football League games during the 2012/13 season I think. Rob Palmer has been doing some L1/2 games during the international break weekends as mentioned - last time was 3 weeks ago - and Tony Jones is sometimes used as well for this kind of matches. Alan Parry last did some Championship games maybe 2-3 seasons ago but since then it's been mostly the trio of Leslie, Mann and Weaver.
The Lizard
25-09-2016
MLS - LA Galaxy v Seattle Sounders:

Sky Sports 3 - Richard Kaufman and David Prutton
Daniel_Ormsby
26-09-2016
Bundesliga World Feed commentators for Matchday 4 and 5 are as follows:

Tuesday, September 20
VfL Wolfsburg/Borussia Dortmund: Mark Scott, Steffen Freund
talkSPORT: Kevin Hatchard

Sporting-Club Freiburg/Hamburger SV: Alex Sisto
FS2 in the US: Keith Costigan

FC Ingolstadt 04/Eintracht Frankfurt: Phil Bonney

SV Darmstadt 98/TSG 1899 Hoffenheim: Garry Preston

Wednesday, September 21
Bayern Munich/Hertha BSC Berlin: Kevin Hatchard
talkSPORT: James Fielden

Bayer 04 Leverkusen/FC Augsburg: James Thorogood
FS2 in the US: Keith Costigan

FC Schalke 04/1. FC Köln: Mark Scott

Red Bull Leipzig/Borussia Mönchengladbach: Andy James

Werder Bremen/FSV Mainz 05: Garry Preston

Friday, September 23
Borussia Dortmund/Sporting-Club Freiburg: Dan O'Hagan
talkSPORT: Kevin Hatchard

Saturday, September 24
Hamburger SV/Bayern Munich: Derek Rae
talkSPORT: Kevin Hatchard

1. FSV Mainz 05/Bayer 04 Leverkusen: Andy James, Peter Løvenkrands

Eintracht Frankfurt/Hertha BSC Berlin: Rob Daly

Borussia Mönchengladbach/FC Ingolstadt 04: Dan O'Hagan

FC Augsburg/SV Darmstadt 98: Alex Sisto

Werder Bremen/VfL Wolfsburg: Garry Preston
talkSPORT: Tim Long

Sunday, September 25
TSG 1899 Hoffenheim/FC Schalke 04: Mark Scott
talkSPORT: James Fielden

1. FC Koln/Red Bull Leipzig: Phil Bonney
talkSPORT: Kevin Hatchard

Here's what Matchday 3's final World Feed assignments were, with corrections listed.

Friday, September 16
1. FC Köln/Sporting-Club Freiburg: Derek Rae
talkSPORT: Tim Long

Saturday, September 17
Bayern Munich/FC Ingolstadt 04: Dan O'Hagan
talkSPORT: Tim Long

Borussia Dortmund/SV Darmstadt 98: Kevin Hatchard

Eintracht Frankfurt/Bayer 04 Leverkusen: Andy James

Hamburger SV/Red Bull Leipzig: Garry Preston

TSG 1899 Hoffenheim/VfL Wolsburg: James Thorogood

Borussia Mönchengladbach/SV Werder Bremen: Rob Daly
talkSPORT: Toby Gilles

Sunday, September 18
FC Augsburg/1. FSV Mainz 05: Mark Scott
talkSPORT: Chris Parrott

Hertha BSC Berlin/FC Schalke 04: Kevin Hatchard, Steve Cherundolo
talkSPORT: Joe Shennan
The Scout
26-09-2016
Originally Posted by casinoman13:
“May be wrong but i think Tony Jones may of done one or two but that's about it.”

Originally Posted by pablom:
“Rob Palmer did a few L1/2 games during international breaks last season I seem to remember.”

Originally Posted by flipxside:
“Ian Crocker last commentated on Football League games during the 2012/13 season I think. Rob Palmer has been doing some L1/2 games during the international break weekends as mentioned - last time was 3 weeks ago - and Tony Jones is sometimes used as well for this kind of matches. Alan Parry last did some Championship games maybe 2-3 seasons ago but since then it's been mostly the trio of Leslie, Mann and Weaver.”

Cheers folks.

I actually noticed Rob Palmer did one earlier in the month but forgot about it.
arunan22
26-09-2016
Originally Posted by casinoman13:
“Just want to make a quick point about Darren Fletcher, as much as i don't rate him anywhere near the standards of Darke, Tyler or even Rob Hawthorne i did find him a very easy listen when he presented Fletch and Sav over the past few seasons.

He seemed to command authority, knew what question's to ask and didn't take the show away from the pundits, so yes i also think he would make a very good presenter over Humphrey's.

On the subject of his work load, well there is no doubt the like's of Tyler or Darke would probably struggle but at times i think even he could burn himself out, on top of his football comitments and Radio he also has a lot of NFL in the near future so i hope for his sake he is not prone to winter sickness and cold's.”

Not a bad idea that....kill 2 birds with one stone - let Fletcher take on PL presenting, and get him off commentary - and gets rid of Humphrey!
Jonny_Bentley1
26-09-2016
It seems Savage is a pundit for the Leicester game as opposed to commentator, with Lineker and Ferdinand. Probably Owen Hargreaves as the co-commentator alongside Darke.
casinoman13
26-09-2016
Originally Posted by Jonny_Bentley1:
“It seems Savage is a pundit for the Leicester game as opposed to commentator, with Lineker and Ferdinand. Probably Owen Hargreaves as the co-commentator alongside Darke.”

Make my day!
Jonny_Bentley1
26-09-2016
Originally Posted by casinoman13:
“Make my day!”

Ah it could be worse. Remember Owen is a 'super commentator technically'

At least old man Francis is stuck on one of the non-British ties.

Other Owen seems to just have United on Thursday again for the second set of European fixtures.
Jonny_Bentley1
26-09-2016
And, perhaps surprisingly, Matt Smith presenting both CL matches on BTS3 this week. In the studio for CSKA-Spurs and at the Emirates for Arsenal-Basel. Good gig for him and nice to see a thoroughly underrated presenter get rewarded. It seems safe to assume therefore Hipgrave will be covering Southampton on Thursday night.
Li4m
26-09-2016
Originally Posted by casinoman13:
“I have wondered why BT have never considered using Jim Beglin? but i think BT just want to go down the line of mostly young and past recent footballer's.”

He has regular commitments on the international feed as well — often two games over a weekend — so it may also be that he's not available to BT for their Premier League coverage. They've used him on European football.
TheSubaru2012
26-09-2016
Andy Hinchcliffe is co-commentator tonight for Burnley V Watford so it looks like Leslie is with him again. This looks like it's going to be a regular partnership for this year which is great to see, they really have produced some great commentaries together in the EFL and PL. I think Leslie and Hinchcliffe will be on next week as well as there is 4 PL games and just 1 EFL game live on Sky Sports.
TheSubaru2012
26-09-2016
Klopp is going now, just Jamie and David for the rest of the show. Klopp was amazing for the first hour.
Li4m
26-09-2016
When Sky have special guests on Monday Night Football, do they tend to stick around for the whole show or leave after an hour or so as Klopp did?
COTTONHEAT
26-09-2016
Originally Posted by Li4m:
“When Sky have special guests on Monday Night Football, do they tend to stick around for the whole show or leave after an hour or so as Klopp did?”

normally the whole show
Jonny_Bentley1
26-09-2016
Originally Posted by Li4m:
“When Sky have special guests on Monday Night Football, do they tend to stick around for the whole show or leave after an hour or so as Klopp did?”

I was under the impression they stayed. Fabgreas and Koeman stayed until 11 I believe.
TheSubaru2012
26-09-2016
I noticed as well they didn't show the team lineup in the studio during the build-up but instead showed it when the teams came out.
Readingfan
26-09-2016
Originally Posted by Li4m:
“When Sky have special guests on Monday Night Football, do they tend to stick around for the whole show or leave after an hour or so as Klopp did?”

Since it became common practice in December I think they've all done the whole show.

But on the first show of last season Roberto Martinez just did the first hour after Neville's dad had died. And before they've had the likes of Eddie Howe on for the pre-match only.

MNF is finishing at the earlier time of 10.30 tonight. Not entirely sure why.
Readingfan
26-09-2016
Originally Posted by TheSubaru2012:
“I noticed as well they didn't show the team lineup in the studio during the build-up but instead showed it when the teams came out.”

Yes, and they didn't go to the commentators any earlier for it.

I think the studio line-up bit often takes up unnecessary time and there's no real need for it.
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