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Football Commentators Thread (Part 19)
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TheSubaru2012
26-09-2016
Originally Posted by Readingfan:
“Since it became common practice in December I think they've all done the whole show.

But on the first show of last season Roberto Martinez just did the first hour after Neville's dad had died. And before they've had the likes of Eddie Howe on for the pre-match only.

MNF is finishing at the earlier time of 10.30 tonight. Not entirely sure why.”

Tribute program to Arnold Palmer.
CardioCortez
26-09-2016
Originally Posted by TheSubaru2012:
“Andy Hinchcliffe is co-commentator tonight for Burnley V Watford so it looks like Leslie is with him again. This looks like it's going to be a regular partnership for this year which is great to see, they really have produced some great commentaries together in the EFL and PL. I think Leslie and Hinchcliffe will be on next week as well as there is 4 PL games and just 1 EFL game live on Sky Sports.”

To confirm, it is Leslie and Hinchcliffe.

Glad to see these two on the PL more. A welcome addition to the coverage.
The Naitch
26-09-2016
Originally Posted by TheSubaru2012:
“Tribute program to Arnold Palmer.”

It was already scheduled to finish at 10.30pm before Arnold Palmer died.
The Scout
26-09-2016
It was probably scheduled to finish early due to Sky knowing Klopp wouldn't be sticking around, and it would have left Carragher on his own to fill loads of time.

Really disappointed about that. I was looking forward to the Q&A type stuff at the end with Klopp.
digiremote
26-09-2016
Cagliari v Sampdoria - BT Sport 1.

Commentator: Andy Bodfish

Union Berlin v St Pauli - BT Sport 3.

Commentator: Tim Caple

Alaves v Granada - Sky Sports 5.

Commentators: Jon Driscoll and Terry Gibson
MattN
26-09-2016
David Jones is much better on this than he ever was on Saturday night football.

He's really risen to his new role
loyalsince
26-09-2016
I think Sky coverage thus far has been excellent. SNF was awful, but Jones much, much better this season

Also good use of pundits, you normally get at least two, but sometimes three with space in the budget for guests like Phil Neville and Klopp.

I think we can pretty sure now that Sky have a game a week for Tyler, Hawthorne and Leslie.

It appears that Parry will only be used on weeks when Sky have four games, unless Parry gets some Carling Cup, which seems unlikely.

I think Mann is now clear no1 FL commentator and will get play off final.

I think Leslie may not cover another regular season EFL game, with Weaver steping up to Mann role.

Personally I think its a shame Mann not getting some PL (with him, Leslie and Parry sharing the games 3 and sometimes 4 in PL and the EFL) I don't rate Weaver very highly
Peachy Keen
26-09-2016
Originally Posted by The Naitch:
“It was already scheduled to finish at 10.30pm before Arnold Palmer died.”

The first time l read this, l thought how could they have a tribute programme before he died!
mromega
26-09-2016
Originally Posted by loyalsince:
“Personally I think its a shame Mann not getting some PL (with him, Leslie and Parry sharing the games 3 and sometimes 4 in PL and the EFL) I don't rate Weaver very highly”

Agree about Mann, but Sky clearly have a succession plan in place and excellent strength in depth. When Martin Tyler retires - Hawthorne, Lesley will move up and Mann will join the PL crew.

Wouldn't have an issue with any of Sky's staff commentators doing any game, no real weaknesses.
Readingfan
26-09-2016
Agree it would be good if Mann got some PL too. Parry did a match on a 3 game weekend a few weeks ago with Leslie doing FL instead. As for MNF, Neville was by himself til 11 loads of time so surely Carragher could manage for one week. As it stands they understandably haven't really looked at the weekend's football at all so I'd have thought there'd be plenty to fill with.
The Scout
27-09-2016
Anyone notice Bill Leslie's blunder after the final whistle? When summing up the match he said that Burnley took the lead thanks to their record signing Michael Kightly. He of course meant Jeff Hendrick.

Kightly came on as a stoppage-time sub so he must have had Kightly on the brain.
BFGArmy
27-09-2016
Sounds like a bad week for MNF to end half an hour earlier than usual. Didn't catch it but did they cover/mention BigSamGate before going off air?

BT must be feeling overjoyed on the other hand that they take over the live football reins over the next few days.
The Scout
27-09-2016
Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“Sounds like a bad week for MNF to end half an hour earlier than usual. Didn't catch it but did they cover/mention BigSamGate before going off air?”

Nope. Don't know what time the news broke but I didn't hear about it until after midnight...

It wasn't even on Sky Sports News because they had already switched to their continuous news loop to that goes on until 6am or whenever it is.
Mr Newshound
27-09-2016
Originally Posted by The Scout:
“Nope. Don't know what time the news broke but I didn't hear about it until after midnight...

It wasn't even on Sky Sports News because they had already switched to their continuous news loop to that goes on until 6am or whenever it is.”

The Telegraph had initially tweeted about it before 22:00 and had put out more by 22:30.

21:55 - https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/780511090677514240
22:21 - https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/780517646278266884
22:22 - https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/780517996984995841
22:22 - https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/780517890546163712
22:30 - https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/780519894727000064

Perhaps Sky Sports News wanted to get their own legal clearances before they ran the story?
The Scout
27-09-2016
"Through The Night" begins at 11pm so I don't know if that's a live broadcast that is then repeated every hour or whether it's the first of the repeats that go into the early hours.

Either way, seems like it broke a little bit too late as far as Sky were concerned.

I guess it would take something really big for them to break from their usual routine of shutting down for the night, and even then it might just be picked up by Sky News as opposed to SSN if it's that big a story.
jazzydrury3
27-09-2016
I am sure I saw it on the SSNHQ yellow bar before I went to bed last night.
BFGArmy
27-09-2016
Originally Posted by The Scout:
“"Through The Night" begins at 11pm so I don't know if that's a live broadcast that is then repeated every hour or whether it's the first of the repeats that go into the early hours.

Either way, seems like it broke a little bit too late as far as Sky were concerned.

I guess it would take something really big for them to break from their usual routine of shutting down for the night, and even then it might just be picked up by Sky News as opposed to SSN if it's that big a story.”

I'm not totally sure on SSN timings but think you're right that it's either 11pm or 12am that's the final live hour and they just loop overnight.

It was always a bit of an anomaly where there'd sometimes be big sports events overnight (e.g. a big boxing match in the US/Ashes is Australia) but SSN obviously wouldn't have any updates because they'd be on loop overnight.
That said there is the valid point that if you're up at that time and want to know more about those events you'd probably be watching the events themselves rather than SSN.

The timing was quite bad for Sky last night- because obviously Sky News was covering the Presidential debate so didn't really have much time to cover the Allardyce story as much as they would on a regular evening.
However, I notice they did cover it a bit in their 10.30pm newspaper review.

On the Big Sam story (and to bring it back on topic), if he is removed as England manager I'm awaiting the usual 'Hoddle for England Manager' cries from the usual people.
To be fair if it gets him off co-commentary would that necessarily? I mean it's not like England will win anything anyway.

Also, just seen that 'The PL Show' line-up to discuss '20 Years of Arsene Wenger'. Yikes at one name in particular.
I'm sort of disappointed Stewart Robson isn't on mind - he normally provides unintentional comedy when talking about Arsene Wenger.
The Scout
27-09-2016
So, because I don't think anyone has done so yet - to sum up last night...

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Burnley v Watford - Sky Sports 1 / Sky Sports 1 HD / Sky Ultra HD

Presented by David Jones with special guest Jurgen Klopp and Jamie Carragher

Commentary from Bill Leslie and Andy Hinchcliffe

Reporter: Patrick Davison

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Jonny_Bentley1
27-09-2016
Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“On the Big Sam story (and to bring it back on topic), if he is removed as England manager I'm awaiting the usual 'Hoddle for England Manager' cries from the usual people.
To be fair if it gets him off co-commentary would that necessarily? I mean it's not like England will win anything anyway. ”


On that basis let's all back Hoddle! Assistant manager can be 'Arry Redknapp, goalkeeping coach can be David James, first team coach can be Trevor Francis and sports psychologist can be Jake Humphrey. Oh what a team !
Tony Yeboah
27-09-2016
Leicester v Porto- Tony Jones and Dean Ashton for the world feed
CSKA Moscow v Spurs- Nigel Adderley for the world feed
Napoli v Benfica- Dan O'Hagan for the world feed
TLG86
27-09-2016
Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“I'm sort of disappointed Stewart Robson isn't on mind - he normally provides unintentional comedy when talking about Arsene Wenger.”

Has he made any comments on the Arsenal v Chelsea game? He thinks Conte is God's gift to football management (to be fair, I think he's a good coach too), and would not have enjoyed Wenger's Arsenal tearing Chelsea apart!
pakokelso93
27-09-2016
Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“I'm not totally sure on SSN timings but think you're right that it's either 11pm or 12am that's the final live hour and they just loop overnight.

It was always a bit of an anomaly where there'd sometimes be big sports events overnight (e.g. a big boxing match in the US/Ashes is Australia) but SSN obviously wouldn't have any updates because they'd be on loop overnight.
That said there is the valid point that if you're up at that time and want to know more about those events you'd probably be watching the events themselves rather than SSN.
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The 11pm hour is the final hour which is 'live' before it is looped on SSN overnight. However if something happens during the 11pm hour, they will often stay live post midnight for the first quarter, or even half of the midnight hour before the pre-record kicks in at 12:30am. (Hence how some mornings TTN the presenter says "Good Morning"). Quite often if something breaks (like say Rory winning the golf at 11:50pmish on Sunday night) - SSN won't mention it at all until the top of the hour so it doesn't interupt the later part of the hours recording.

Sat night into Sunday morning on SSN they are live for first chunk of the midnight hour to show the PL goals too.

Big Sam story did feature for 5 mins or so at the 11pm/overnight hour.
The Scout
27-09-2016
Originally Posted by pakokelso93:
“Big Sam story did feature for 5 mins or so at the 11pm/overnight hour.”

I assumed it hadn't be mentioned as there was no yellow breaking news bar at the bottom of the screen.

Funny seeing as far more trivial matters have been given the yellow ticker treatment.
jazzydrury3
27-09-2016
Im sure I read something on a ticker at around 11.30pm on SSNHQ Last night.

Was nothing detailed bar something like Sources: Daily Telegraph expose Sam Allardyce or something simular
jazzydrury3
27-09-2016
Originally Posted by The Scout:
“I assumed it hadn't be mentioned as there was no yellow breaking news bar at the bottom of the screen.

Funny seeing as far more trivial matters have been given the yellow ticker treatment.”

Thats is more so on Sky News.

Where you get a yellow ticker saying. Sources: Katie Price aka Jordan has reported she broke a finger nail
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