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Football Commentators Thread (Part 19)
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LIVE English Premier League (Sky Sports 1 / Sky Q Ultra HD)
Chelsea v Manchester United
Chelsea v Manchester United
The previous presentation line-up from Southampton v Man City earlier.
Commentators - Martin Tyler and Gary Neville
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“Well, there was another example of this on Sky a few years back in the European U21 Championships, when Tyler and Smith failed to notice an England goal had been disallowed, and it took a good few minutes until they realised - although in that case the host broadcasters' graphics and the stadium scoreboard also changed. But again, you'd think they'd have noticed they hadn't kicked off.”
“Well, there was another example of this on Sky a few years back in the European U21 Championships, when Tyler and Smith failed to notice an England goal had been disallowed, and it took a good few minutes until they realised - although in that case the host broadcasters' graphics and the stadium scoreboard also changed. But again, you'd think they'd have noticed they hadn't kicked off.”
Today's instance was fairly similar in that the first indication that the goal had been ruled out was when the scoreboard was switched back from 1-1 to 0-1 - and Hawthorne and Quinn only made mention of it afterwards, as though they didn't realise the goal had been disallowed until they saw the score change themselves.
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“I don't think any of that tops the moment in the FA Cup a few seasons ago when Ipswich played West Ham, I think, and the Ipswich players spent so long celebrating a disallowed goal, West Ham scored while they were doing it.”
“I don't think any of that tops the moment in the FA Cup a few seasons ago when Ipswich played West Ham, I think, and the Ipswich players spent so long celebrating a disallowed goal, West Ham scored while they were doing it.”
The most notable example of that sort of thing happening, of course, was when Sol Campbell "scored" in extra time in the England v Argentina France '98 match - and the England team were so busy celebrating thinking they'd won the match with a golden goal that Argentina went straight up the other end and nearly scored.
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“In Des Lynam's book, he talks about when he accidentally referred to a match as being on BBC2 instead of ITV2 - when he was on ITV, obviously - and after the show there was a massive post-mortem about it, Des saying "You would have thought I had defamed the Queen, replete with four letter words". But he says that nobody actually pointed it out when he said it, the director didn't say anything in his earpiece, and he said they'd done that he could have corrected himself and made a joke about it, but he remained totally oblivious to the whole thing.”
“In Des Lynam's book, he talks about when he accidentally referred to a match as being on BBC2 instead of ITV2 - when he was on ITV, obviously - and after the show there was a massive post-mortem about it, Des saying "You would have thought I had defamed the Queen, replete with four letter words". But he says that nobody actually pointed it out when he said it, the director didn't say anything in his earpiece, and he said they'd done that he could have corrected himself and made a joke about it, but he remained totally oblivious to the whole thing.”
I remember Darren Fletcher trailing an upcoming match early on in his BT Sport career by saying "coming up on Sky Sports..."
I suppose the key thing is determining which mistakes can be written off because it's live TV and everybody makes mistakes and which are serious enough to warrant being addressed afterwards.
The instance you mention with Lynam was clearly one of the former but I wouldn't readily put Hawthorne and Quinn's today in the same category.
Originally Posted by TUCKBOX:
“Sky's coverage today has been appalling, They didn't even discuss the disallowed goal at half time and had so many adverts they had no time to.”
“Sky's coverage today has been appalling, They didn't even discuss the disallowed goal at half time and had so many adverts they had no time to.”
It seems to me that nowadays on Sky more or less the entire half time is taken up with adverts, especially since they have started having a quick 3rd break for 1 advert just before the 2nd half starts.
Originally Posted by Jason C:
“I remember Darren Fletcher trailing an upcoming match early on in his BT Sport career by saying "coming up on Sky Sports..."”
“I remember Darren Fletcher trailing an upcoming match early on in his BT Sport career by saying "coming up on Sky Sports..."”
I seem to recall he did that twice - remarkable when he's never worked for them. A bit like on the first Football League Tonight when George Riley referred to it as "Football On Five Live", or when Simon Mayo repeatedly reads out the Five Live text number on Radio 2, and vice versa.
The Ipswich celebration was brilliant, it was a proper dance routine they'd clearly spent time on, and it went on for ages, in front of increasingly bemused fans. I've tried to find it on YouTube.
Originally Posted by TheSubaru2012:
“First the BT Box, now a spilt-screen of mangers reacting to a goal on Sky...”
“First the BT Box, now a spilt-screen of mangers reacting to a goal on Sky...”
Just to say, by the way, I don't think they even use the BT Box anymore. I didn't see it at all during the Liverpool match, and I think the only time I ever see it is during the pitchside interviews on the Conference coverage, where it doesn't have the "BT Box" branding either. So seemingly that's now gone for a burton as a proper thing.
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World Feed: Phil Bonney
FS2/BT Sport 1 simulcast: Steven Wyeth
talkSPORT: Kevin Hatchard
It was against us (the Ipswich "goal" celebration.
Remember they outplayed us with 10 men but we nicked it late on!
Remember they outplayed us with 10 men but we nicked it late on!
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“I seem to recall he did that twice - remarkable when he's never worked for them. A bit like on the first Football League Tonight when George Riley referred to it as "Football On Five Live", or when Simon Mayo repeatedly reads out the Five Live text number on Radio 2, and vice versa.
The Ipswich celebration was brilliant, it was a proper dance routine they'd clearly spent time on, and it went on for ages, in front of increasingly bemused fans. I've tried to find it on YouTube.
Just to say, by the way, I don't think they even use the BT Box anymore. I didn't see it at all during the Liverpool match, and I think the only time I ever see it is during the pitchside interviews on the Conference coverage, where it doesn't have the "BT Box" branding either. So seemingly that's now gone for a burton as a proper thing.”
“I seem to recall he did that twice - remarkable when he's never worked for them. A bit like on the first Football League Tonight when George Riley referred to it as "Football On Five Live", or when Simon Mayo repeatedly reads out the Five Live text number on Radio 2, and vice versa.
The Ipswich celebration was brilliant, it was a proper dance routine they'd clearly spent time on, and it went on for ages, in front of increasingly bemused fans. I've tried to find it on YouTube.
Just to say, by the way, I don't think they even use the BT Box anymore. I didn't see it at all during the Liverpool match, and I think the only time I ever see it is during the pitchside interviews on the Conference coverage, where it doesn't have the "BT Box" branding either. So seemingly that's now gone for a burton as a proper thing.”
I don't think they brand it the BT Box now but the box still appears most of the times. Take Rangers V Celtic for today, the box poped up several times today, I've also heard their MotoGP refer it to the BT Box, even though the graphics don't brand the name.
Spanish La Liga - Villarreal v Las Palmas:
Sky Sports 5 - Jon Driscoll and Gerry Armstrong
No idea who is on World Feed duty for Malaga v Leganes via Sky Sports 5 Red Button.
Sky Sports 5 - Jon Driscoll and Gerry Armstrong
No idea who is on World Feed duty for Malaga v Leganes via Sky Sports 5 Red Button.
Originally Posted by luketwill:
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The previous presentation line-up from Southampton v Man City earlier.
Commentators - Martin Tyler and Gary Neville”
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LIVE English Premier League (Sky Sports 1 / Sky Q Ultra HD)
Chelsea v Manchester United
Chelsea v Manchester United
The previous presentation line-up from Southampton v Man City earlier.
Commentators - Martin Tyler and Gary Neville”
Post-match analysis will be from Graeme Souness, Thierry Henry and Gary Neville in the studio. Carragher will offer his thoughts from the gantry.
Originally Posted by CardioCortez:
“Post-match analysis will be from Graeme Souness, Thierry Henry and Gary Neville in the studio. Carragher will offer his thoughts from the gantry.”
“Post-match analysis will be from Graeme Souness, Thierry Henry and Gary Neville in the studio. Carragher will offer his thoughts from the gantry.”
Super Sunday have joined the F1 build-up coverage going in-vision to Martin Brundle (that race coming up after Sky go off air at Stamford Bridge).
Originally Posted by CardioCortez:
“Super Sunday have joined the F1 build-up coverage going in-vision to Martin Brundle (that race coming up after Sky go off air at Stamford Bridge).”
“Super Sunday have joined the F1 build-up coverage going in-vision to Martin Brundle (that race coming up after Sky go off air at Stamford Bridge).”
Watched the football - and going to watch the F1 - but didn't think that worked at all.
Do feel Sky have gone a bit overboard in promoting other shows/coverage today.
Alongside the usual 'games coming up' during the game and the 'The Flash on Sky 1' etc. type promotion,heading into breaks there's also been tickers come up twice a half to direct to UHD services. Add in the F1 build-up stuff and it's all a bit much.
Have to say too while I see what they were trying to do with the Carragher gantry analysis post-match, it does look slightly odd him sitting there in the dark with stadium staff working away in the background.
That said the actual coverage by Sky has been on the whole enjoyable and the commentary did the game justice.
Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“Watched the football - and going to watch the F1 - but didn't think that worked at all.
Do feel Sky have gone a bit overboard in promoting other shows/coverage today.
Alongside the usual 'games coming up' during the game and the 'The Flash on Sky 1' etc. type promotion,heading into breaks there's also been tickers come up twice a half to direct to UHD services. Add in the F1 build-up stuff and it's all a bit much.
Have to say too while I see what they were trying to do with the Carragher gantry analysis post-match, it does look slightly odd him sitting there in the dark with stadium staff working away in the background.
That said the actual coverage by Sky has been on the whole enjoyable and the commentary did the game justice.”
“Watched the football - and going to watch the F1 - but didn't think that worked at all.
Do feel Sky have gone a bit overboard in promoting other shows/coverage today.
Alongside the usual 'games coming up' during the game and the 'The Flash on Sky 1' etc. type promotion,heading into breaks there's also been tickers come up twice a half to direct to UHD services. Add in the F1 build-up stuff and it's all a bit much.
Have to say too while I see what they were trying to do with the Carragher gantry analysis post-match, it does look slightly odd him sitting there in the dark with stadium staff working away in the background.
That said the actual coverage by Sky has been on the whole enjoyable and the commentary did the game justice.”
Considering this pairing was slated on Monday, they were excellent today on commentary and Carragher contributed well. Sky's coverage of the second game was brilliant.
LA Galaxy v FC Dallas- Gary Taphouse and Matt Lawrence
Colorado Rapids v Houston Dynamo- Callum Williams and Gary Breen
Colorado Rapids v Houston Dynamo- Callum Williams and Gary Breen
Some details have already been kindly posted in advance. 100% confirmation:
Italian Serie A - Roma v Palermo:
BT Sport 3 - John Roder and Kevin Gallacher
French Ligue 1 - Paris Saint-Germain v Marseille:
BT Sport 1 - Adam Summerton and Richard Hughes
Spanish La Liga - Real Madrid v Athletic Bilbao (Sky Sports 3):
David Garrido presenting with Albert Ferrer. I would assume both have been involved for the 2 games earlier on as well.
Commentators - Rob Palmer and Terry Gibson
Italian Serie A - Roma v Palermo:
BT Sport 3 - John Roder and Kevin Gallacher
French Ligue 1 - Paris Saint-Germain v Marseille:
BT Sport 1 - Adam Summerton and Richard Hughes
Spanish La Liga - Real Madrid v Athletic Bilbao (Sky Sports 3):
David Garrido presenting with Albert Ferrer. I would assume both have been involved for the 2 games earlier on as well.
Commentators - Rob Palmer and Terry Gibson
Originally Posted by russtommo:
“It seems to me that nowadays on Sky more or less the entire half time is taken up with adverts, especially since they have started having a quick 3rd break for 1 advert just before the 2nd half starts.”
“It seems to me that nowadays on Sky more or less the entire half time is taken up with adverts, especially since they have started having a quick 3rd break for 1 advert just before the 2nd half starts.”
yes
they need to get every money back they overpaid for an average domestic league
Originally Posted by ftakeith:
“yes
they need to get every money back they overpaid for an average domestic league”
“yes
they need to get every money back they overpaid for an average domestic league”
I just wonder why Sky have a second betting at half-time yet BT don't?
Originally Posted by Tony Yeboah:
“LA Galaxy v FC Dallas (Sky Sports 5) - Gary Taphouse and Matt Lawrence
Colorado Rapids v Houston Dynamo (Sky Sports 4 Red Button) - Callum Williams and Gary Breen”
“LA Galaxy v FC Dallas (Sky Sports 5) - Gary Taphouse and Matt Lawrence
Colorado Rapids v Houston Dynamo (Sky Sports 4 Red Button) - Callum Williams and Gary Breen”
Cheers Tony! And, two more MLS (Decision Day) details:
Seattle Sounders v Real Salt Lake (Sky Sports 4) - Dave Farrar and David Prutton
Vancouver Whitecaps v Portland Timbers (Sky Sports 4 Red Button) - Dan Roebuck and Alan Curbishley
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“ Although I don't think any of that tops the moment in the FA Cup a few seasons ago when Ipswich played West Ham, I think, and the Ipswich players spent so long celebrating a disallowed goal, West Ham scored while they were doing it.
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“ Although I don't think any of that tops the moment in the FA Cup a few seasons ago when Ipswich played West Ham, I think, and the Ipswich players spent so long celebrating a disallowed goal, West Ham scored while they were doing it.
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Of course, this is the best example of a team celebrating a goal they didn't realise had been disallowed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4Z_j1hF1EQ
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“Although I don't think any of that tops the moment in the FA Cup a few seasons ago when Ipswich played West Ham, I think, and the Ipswich players spent so long celebrating a disallowed goal, West Ham scored while they were doing it.”
“Although I don't think any of that tops the moment in the FA Cup a few seasons ago when Ipswich played West Ham, I think, and the Ipswich players spent so long celebrating a disallowed goal, West Ham scored while they were doing it.”
As an Ipswich fan, I had forgotten all about this but it was against Watford and they didn't actually score directly from that. I think Watford broke away and almost scored, but didn't. It was a game that finished 1-0 and they didn't get the goal until right at the end. The disallowed goal and rather extravagant celebration happened much earlier in the game.
Originally Posted by BFGArmy:
“Have to say too while I see what they were trying to do with the Carragher gantry analysis post-match, it does look slightly odd him sitting there in the dark with stadium staff working away in the background.”
“Have to say too while I see what they were trying to do with the Carragher gantry analysis post-match, it does look slightly odd him sitting there in the dark with stadium staff working away in the background.”
I thought this seemed a bit daft because if Neville could come back in the studio, surely so could Carragher, who was sat right next to him? The other issue is the one we've mentioned before at Stamford Bridge, in that they can't have a camera on the gantry so they have to zoom in from miles away and it looks really weird.
Steve Bower seemed to spot the disallowed Man City goal straight away on MOTD, I was listening out for an obvious edit but seemingly it was all live. I don't think Sky made any mention of it at all after, did they?
Originally Posted by The Scout:
“As an Ipswich fan, I had forgotten all about this but it was against Watford and they didn't actually score directly from that. I think Watford broke away and almost scored, but didn't. It was a game that finished 1-0 and they didn't get the goal until right at the end. The disallowed goal and rather extravagant celebration happened much earlier in the game.”
“As an Ipswich fan, I had forgotten all about this but it was against Watford and they didn't actually score directly from that. I think Watford broke away and almost scored, but didn't. It was a game that finished 1-0 and they didn't get the goal until right at the end. The disallowed goal and rather extravagant celebration happened much earlier in the game.”
Don't spoil it for me! Ah, well, it was still great fun.
I've finally found an easy way to watch MOTD/MOTD2 which is good.
Steve Wilson sounded very good yesterday, obviously a good (or big) game helped but performances like that do make me wonder why he isn't number one on the Beeb. Not sure what opportunities are likely to come up but if I was a TV station director and needed a new commentator, it's Steve who I would hire.
Steve Wilson sounded very good yesterday, obviously a good (or big) game helped but performances like that do make me wonder why he isn't number one on the Beeb. Not sure what opportunities are likely to come up but if I was a TV station director and needed a new commentator, it's Steve who I would hire.
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