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I thought this seemed a bit daft because if Neville could come back in the studio, surely so could Carragher, who was sat right next to him? The other issue is the one we've mentioned before at Stamford Bridge, in that they can't have a camera on the gantry so they have to zoom in from miles away and it looks really weird.
Steve Bower seemed to spot the disallowed Man City goal straight away on MOTD, I was listening out for an obvious edit but seemingly it was all live. I don't think Sky made any mention of it at all after, did they? . |
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To be fair the whole incident was handled very poorly by Sky, Hawthorne and Quinn for some reason were blind to it, day to forget for them as well.
It should've been Hawthorne who spotted the disallowed goal. Somebody mentioned the infamous incident on Setanta from a couple of seasons ago December 6th 2014 to be precise. I've mentioned it extensively here before but they were unaware for 2-3 minutes. The reason why they missed it is because they were in a studio in Dublin. They later tried to make out on commentary that they were at the stadium and missed an offside flag (that didn't happen, the ref disallowed it). This didn't explain why they missed the restart, the Stoke fans loudly booing, and the stadium scoreboard, which is quite big! Backtracking over the disallowed goal meant they also made a hash of calling the Arsenal penalty, and were unsure for quite a while it was given because of the extensive replays. It would've been obvious to anybody in the ground it was given. |
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On the subject of commentators refusing to acknowledge a mistake, did anyone else notice how Neville initially blamed Daley Blind for the first Chelsea goal yesterday? I appreciate that none of United's players covered themselves in glory, but I thought it was blindingly obvious that Chris Smalling made a massive error for the first goal, yet Neville basically ignored it for the first few replays. I know he's not an England coach any more, but it does feel like he doesn't want to call out English players when they make mistakes.
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Steve Wilson sounded very good yesterday, obviously a good (or big) game helped but performances like that do make me wonder why he isn't number one on the Beeb. Not sure what opportunities are likely to come up but if I was a TV station director and needed a new commentator, it's Steve who I would hire.
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Hebei China Fortune v Hangzhou Greentown- Dan O'Hagan
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Would be grateful if anyone could help solve these two lineups that have been lingering as unconfirmed in the hub the past few days: Kilmarnock v Rangers - 26/08/2016 - BT Sport ======================================== Presented by: Darrell Currie Commentators: Derek Rae and Chris Sutton Reporter: Eilidh Barbour Guests: ?????????????????????????????????? Were there any guests for this one? I'm guessing that there would have been at least one. And, another attempt to solve this one... Quote:
Borussia Dortmund v Manchester City - 28/07/2016 - Sky
This has David Jones down as being the presenter, with Tyler and Provan commentating on the match. If there was a presenter, would there not have been a guest as well? If so, who? Also, was there a reporter? This game was being played in China... |
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Is Steve Wilson, the guy who worked for CBBC, and presented Live and Kicking, and occasionally does Tech slots on This Morning.
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To be honest, Steve Wilson and Guy Mowbray are more or less joint number ones at the Beeb anyway. Other than the Cup Final (and Wilson usually gets the semi-final which is almost as big a game) and England matches every two years, Wilson gets plenty of matches of equal quality to Mowbray, as yesterday illustrated. I can't imagine anyone but Tyler, Fletcher and Tyldesley getting a match like that on their respective channels.
Whereas back in the days of Motson and Davies, at least Davies would get the European Cup Final, normally featuring an English club, or the League Cup Final, whereas Motson would sweep up the FA Cup Final each year. It's sad, in that Wilson's experience, broadcasting skills and overall reading of the game are not inferior to Mowbray's. But the BBC clearly rate Mowbray more highly. |
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Is Steve Wilson, the guy who worked for CBBC, and presented Live and Kicking, and occasionally does Tech slots on This Morning.
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No, different people.
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Thanks, I thought it wouldnt be him, but with Presenters and pundits working freelance and hoping around doing different stuff wasn't sure
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No, different people.
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While we are on questions about possible namesakes. Is football commentator Simon Mann also the same Simon Mann that appears on TMS?
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While we are on questions about possible namesakes. Is football commentator Simon Mann also the same Simon Mann that appears on TMS?
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Also on the topic of namesakes, on the WBA game this weekend you had Darren Fletcher commentating on his namesake Darren Fletcher.
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Manchester United U23 v Arsenal U23 - MUTV - David Stowell and Quinton Fortune (Mark Sullivan reporting)
FC Kaiserslautern v VFL Bochum - BT Sport 1 - Dan Mason |
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Late to the party but not sure on the coverage of the Old Firm game at all. For all the good SPFL coverage is on BT. Hundreds of people in random positions talking away. Seemed a bit of a mess. Quote:
Going to be a bit of a big lineup for Rangers V Celtic today, 4 pundits, 3 commentators, Howard Webb watching the ref and 2 reporters. Maybe a bit too much people that BT have sent today although understandable considering this is their first old firm games in ages!
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Bury v Bolton Wanderers - Sky Sports 1 - George Gavin presenting from Gigg Lane with Kevin Davies and Ryan Lowe. Jonathan Oakes reporting.
commentators: Gary Weaver and Danny Higginbotham world feed: John Roder |
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Rangers v St Johnstone- Tom Miller and Andy Little for RangersTV
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Can anyone identify who the commentators are in this clip? (for Premier Sports)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLWgWpYXOwo Thanks! |
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Rory Hamilton and Michael Stewart.
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Thanks. Just trying to determine the commentary teams for the handful of matches that Premier Sports showed earlier in the season. That was one of the ones that seemingly wasn't mentioned within this thread at the time.
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Bury v Bolton Wanderers - Sky Sports 1 - George Gavin presenting from Gigg Lane with Kevin Davies and Ryan Lowe. Jonathan Oakes reporting.
commentators: Gary Weaver and Danny Higginbotham world feed: John Roder Be interesting to see the EFL Cup lineups for Sky, two big games but in a lower profile competition, wouldn't be surprised of GNev, Carra & Tyler were involved given the teams involved. |
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I'll be listening to Roder later so see how he does. Kevin Davies is relatively low key on BT/Sky but quietly building up broadcasting experience, obviously I'm biased but would be good if he got a high profile role.
Be interesting to see the EFL Cup lineups for Sky, two big games but in a lower profile competition, wouldn't be surprised of GNev, Carra & Tyler were involved given the teams involved. |
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To be fair, dunno if you class as low key but he does a lot of commentaries on European games on BT and usually turns up on Conference games etc.
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