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Old 31-07-2016, 18:34
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What his obbession with ee, It the 3rd time this week he slated the show off.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/showbiz-t...-quality-telly

http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/east...ss-retconning/

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/li...-34914897.html

Even John Altman was slagging off the show again
http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/east...cally-correct/

Wow these ex ee actors are really sad and bitter. I also hate when people on the forums say they have a point when they don't.
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Old 31-07-2016, 18:40
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They both had good point's especially Nick actor, as his Character would not have said what he said, to Fatboy.
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Old 31-07-2016, 18:43
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They do though, and EE is below average for a while.
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Old 31-07-2016, 18:46
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Yawns Leslie just slate the show every week now. I know soaps aren't good as it used to be but you can tell he's bitter.
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Old 31-07-2016, 19:24
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They're both right. EastEnders doesn't need to be on 4 times a week. They barely have enough interesting material for one good episode a week without stretching it to four. It was a lot better when it was on twice a week but it did okay with three episodes. 4 episodes has never worked for EastEnders. The writers ran out of material about 2 years into the 4 episodes a week routine and it's been highly hit and miss since.

Also, DTC hang your head in shame. Nick Cotton is a legend and shouldn't have been killed off if the actor didn't want it. It's just like Kirkwood killing off Pat against the actress's wishes all over again.
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Old 31-07-2016, 19:25
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No one is bigger than the show but sadly these 2 think they are
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Old 31-07-2016, 19:26
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They're both right. EastEnders doesn't need to be on 4 times a week. They barely have enough interesting material for one good episode a week without stretching it to four. It was a lot better when it was on twice a week but it did okay with three episodes. 4 episodes has never worked for EastEnders. The writers ran out of material about 2 years into the 4 episodes a week routine and it's been highly hit and miss since.

Also, DTC hang your head in shame. Nick Cotton is a legend and shouldn't have been killed off if the actor didn't want it. It's just like Kirkwood killing off Pat against the actress's wishes all over again.
Agreed on the Nick Cotton being killed off, but I did like his exit, where he begged Dot to forgive him for everything he did, and she refused.
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Old 31-07-2016, 19:37
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I agree with what they are saying. EE used to be something that you couldn't wait to see, that you looked forward to watching. Now you can easily dip in and out of it and go weeks without seeing an episode and not feel that you are missing out. The storylines are diluted by having it on telly 4 times a week - i think they would be better off going back to 2 or 3 episodes.

I also don't think leslie or John are bitter ex soap stars; they were both key characters who feel passionately about the show and their involvement in it. John was right in that nick would have been racist and insulting towards Fatboy because that was nick! Changing what he said so as not to offend people was missing the point and undermining the character as he was created to be.
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Old 31-07-2016, 19:38
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No one is bigger than the show but sadly these 2 think they are
They pretty much are. Everyone knows Dirty Den and Nick Cotton. Are you saying they're wrong about the quality of the show?
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Old 31-07-2016, 19:41
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They're right imo.

The writing has been really poor. For me, the biggest issue I have with EE is that it's so over-the-top and silly. DTC turned it into a parody.

It needs to go back to telling stories about day-to-day life in the East End. I could do without the constant casual murders, secret relatives and gun plots.
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Old 31-07-2016, 19:43
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They're both right. EastEnders doesn't need to be on 4 times a week. They barely have enough interesting material for one good episode a week without stretching it to four. It was a lot better when it was on twice a week but it did okay with three episodes. 4 episodes has never worked for EastEnders. The writers ran out of material about 2 years into the 4 episodes a week routine and it's been highly hit and miss since.

Also, DTC hang your head in shame. Nick Cotton is a legend and shouldn't have been killed off if the actor didn't want it. It's just like Kirkwood killing off Pat against the actress's wishes all over again.
Actors aren't the bosses, producers are and it's up to them what happens to the characters, not the actors. No actor is bigger than any soap, no matter how much some of their fans think they are.
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Old 31-07-2016, 19:45
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The characters lack any sort of charm. I wouldn't want to be in their company and I don't really care what they go through because they're either incredibly boring or total assholes. At least Den and Nick had a sense of humour even if they were bastards. I still get a kick out of campy Sharon, bible bashing Dot and venom tongued Shirley but the rest of the characters are either dull or vile. Certainly not must see tv anymore.
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Old 31-07-2016, 19:47
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big discussion on it here
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2168015

he is piping up cos his autobiography is coming out
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Old 31-07-2016, 19:48
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Actors aren't the bosses, producers are and it's up to them what happens to the characters, not the actors. No actor is bigger than any soap, no matter how much some of their fans think they are.
Tell that to Ian Beale and Phil Mitchell. If any EP tried killing them off they'd be shown the door. History has proven the loss of iconic characters has damaged the show and its ratings, not to mention the quality. Just what was the point of Peggy's death? It was forgotten 2 weeks later
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Old 31-07-2016, 19:49
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These two are only telling the truth

And at least they have got the guts to come out and say it

Unlike other actors who dont say anything. Maybe they dont want to upset the bosses that gave them a job in the first place and also maybe they would like to comeback to the show like other actors have done in the past
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Old 31-07-2016, 19:59
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What more could they have done with Nick though? We'd seen everything except a long term path of redemption, which the writers would never have gone for as it is so much easier to keep characters stagnant and living up to their 'reputation', look at the way they write Phil

Nick's stints under Yorke and Santer were flops. The Dotty one in particular highlighted that Nick maybe didn't have a place in modern EE. It was embarrassing.

I think the main issue was how little focus there was on Nick's relationship with his long-suffering Ma, always key to his character, in those stints. His Yorke stint primarily centred around a long running feud with Mark Fowler when most of Nick's energy in past stints was channelled into where his next fix was coming from and how he'd get the money to pay for it, while in the Santer stint his presence was bitty with Dotty being on-screen more carrying out his scam.

I thought DTC managed to rescue the character somewhat by returning to the bulk of his interaction being with Dot, and the dark humour that always arose from that, before the character had a short rein of creating of havoc towards the end of his stint. This was a similar formula to his 90s stints.

Nick's death scene was stunning so for once I think killing off a long established character against the actor's wishes was worth it. Over the 30 years he was never a permanent fixture so his presence is no loss to everyday EastEnders. And Altman for some reason lost the ability to play Nick convincingly but I saw more effort from him in his last stint than I did the 2 previous.
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Old 31-07-2016, 20:25
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Leslie had a book to sell...how else would he get press but to slag off the show that made him?
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