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Shantan
02-08-2016
Originally Posted by alter_ego_cat:
“Can I offer another perspective as someone who does eat fish but not any other meat. I don't want to eat anything I can feel an emotional connection to and I don't feel any emotional connection with a fish. Does this make me a bit hypocritical? Yes, probably. However, my reasons are to do with personal feelings, not values or morals. I don't hurt anyone else by my choice and would never dream of trying to tell anyone else what they should or shouldn't eat. And when it cone to being asked about dietary requirements it is just so much easier for everyone to say you're vegetarian than pescatarian. I get really hacked off with being called names for choices I make about food.”


I can understand you calling yourself a vegetarian at a restaurant for ease because you don't like meat or want it anywhere near you. However I know people(my brother being one of them) that will tell you they are vegetarian and lecture you on eating meat, while tucking into some fish! I just find it bizarre and annoying.

I respect your choice and wouldn't name call.
acid rain
03-08-2016
Originally Posted by LilyAnna80:
“I had a friend who was a staunch vegetarian, and asked her why she loved wearing leather skirts, shoes and jackets. She was mightily upset, needless to say we are no longer friends.”


It's vegans who don't wear leather.
CLL Dodge
03-08-2016
Originally Posted by The Finisher:
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Poor fish get such a bad deal...not being cute or fluffy 'real animals' and all. It always amuses me when you see on tins of tuna that its "dolphin friendly". They must look forward to the day when they see a tin of dolphin proclaiming that it's tuna friendly.”

I quite fancy a salty Dolphin burger:

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20070214142140
Esther_Aspley
03-08-2016
As she wears leather shoes and carries a leather hand bag
Pitman
03-08-2016
Originally Posted by Esther_Aspley:
“As she wears leather shoes and carries a leather hand bag”

yeah, but is a handbag an animal?
acid rain
03-08-2016
Originally Posted by Pitman:
“yeah, but is a handbag an animal? ”



It used to be
acid rain
03-08-2016
Originally Posted by Esther_Aspley:
“As she wears leather shoes and carries a leather hand bag”


But she wasn't intending on eating her shoes and handbag.

It's vegans who don't wear leather.
Vicky8675309
03-08-2016
Originally Posted by flower 2:
“I don't eat insects, what am I?

Fussy?”


If you eat processed foods (or pre-prepared meals) then you likely unintentionally eat insects (or pieces of insects)

Originally Posted by The Finisher:
“

Poor fish get such a bad deal...not being cute or fluffy 'real animals' and all. It always amuses me when you see on tins of tuna that its "dolphin friendly". They must look forward to the day when they see a tin of dolphin proclaiming that it's tuna friendly.”

Dolphins just have better PR agents
bbnutnut
03-08-2016
I know people who call themselves vegetarians yet they eat fish. It's daft but as I grew up Catholic I can understand someone thinking fish is not meat.

We used to not eat meat on a Friday according to Catholic tradition but we could eat fish so I always think of fish as separate to meat. In most cook books you'll have fish dishes separate to meat dishes so one can see why people don't think of fish as meat as such. I still know a fish is an animal though and I don't get calling yourself a vegetarian while eating it.
acid rain
03-08-2016
Originally Posted by bbnutnut:
“I know people who call themselves vegetarians yet they eat fish. It's daft but as I grew up Catholic I can understand someone thinking fish is not meat.

We used to not eat meat on a Friday according to Catholic tradition but we could eat fish so I always think of fish as separate to meat. In most cook books you'll have fish dishes separate to meat dishes so one can see why people don't think of fish as meat as such. I still know a fish is an animal though and I don't get calling yourself a vegetarian while eating it.”


Exactly they're Pescetarians.

You would think the fact that fish were sold in Pet shops would be an indication that they're still animals.
jim_lyons
03-08-2016
On a slight side note...

What are Transformers?

I mean, they're not plants...?
acid rain
03-08-2016
Originally Posted by jim_lyons:
“On a slight side note...

What are Transformers?

I mean, they're not plants...?”


Well, they're robots aren't they? Surely everyone knows that.
jim_lyons
03-08-2016
Originally Posted by acid rain:
“Well, they're robots aren't they? Surely everyone knows that. ”

That's definitely what they used to be

Not that familiar with the films, but aren't they "aliens" now?

I guess they can be Robot Aliens. They could be animals? or even minerals?

We should ask Bear if he's heard anything.
Kromm
03-08-2016
Originally Posted by KT_Dog:
“I found bear funnier in that conversation, even though he was right!

"Fish are animals." - "How do you know?" - "I've heard it around."”

I do agree. Even while being right, he was somehow almost as ridiculous.

At least he (sort of) understood that fish aren't plants.

What would be really funny would be to have some kind of BB task and confront these two idiots with Fungi, Algae and Bacteria and have them have to deal with the idea that Mushrooms and pool scum aren't plants, and that Bacteria aren't simply tiny little animals. Or that Viruses, for example, aren't strictly even defined as life.

Ah Biology. The school period idiots somehow sleep through but still pass somehow.

Originally Posted by bbnutnut:
“I know people who call themselves vegetarians yet they eat fish. It's daft but as I grew up Catholic I can understand someone thinking fish is not meat.”

As a nutritional/dietary choice its not really that daft. Ethically one could make a distinguishing line between lower and higher animals and decided that fish fall on one side and mammals and birds on another (a harder sell with birds--and we haven't even gotten to the reptiles or amphibians). Or decide that red meat, by and large, isn't as healthy, and just toss in the other land animals to boot.

Its just delusional if you really use it as a basis to believe that Fish aren't animals. If one makes a choice like this it behooves you to understand why it matters.
Bless You
03-08-2016
It was the sort of convo a couple of five year olds would have.
Virgil Tracy
03-08-2016
so what are Triffids then ?
The Finisher
03-08-2016
Originally Posted by Virgil Tracy:
“so what are Triffids then ?”

Planimals
kezabella
03-08-2016
In the words of Kurt Cobain "it's ok to eat fish cos they don't have any feeeeelings"
GibsonSG
03-08-2016
Originally Posted by Tahitian:
“It's 2016 and we're in the developed world but there seem to be basic educational missteps happening here.”

I think that people have to have the intelligence and desire to be educated, unlike some of this lot who think work involves acting like the lowest of the low on TV.
GibsonSG
03-08-2016
Originally Posted by Virgil Tracy:
“so what are Triffids then ?”

... or sea cucumbers.
Cats_Eyes
03-08-2016
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“Invertebrates are animals too.”

Yes - but not part of the phylum chordata ?
LilyAnna80
03-08-2016
Originally Posted by acid rain:
“It's vegans who don't wear leather.”

Double standards though, not happy to eat meat but delighted to wear it
WhatJoeThinks
03-08-2016
Originally Posted by Cats_Eyes:
“Yes - but not part of the phylum chordata ?”

Your point eludes me, I'm afraid.
Veri
03-08-2016
Originally Posted by Virgil Tracy:
“so what are Triffids then ?”

Fictional.
Veri
03-08-2016
Originally Posted by bbnutnut:
“I know people who call themselves vegetarians yet they eat fish. It's daft but as I grew up Catholic I can understand someone thinking fish is not meat.

We used to not eat meat on a Friday according to Catholic tradition but we could eat fish so I always think of fish as separate to meat. In most cook books you'll have fish dishes separate to meat dishes so one can see why people don't think of fish as meat as such. I still know a fish is an animal though and I don't get calling yourself a vegetarian while eating it.”

It's because fish ISN'T meat in the relevant definition of "meat".

It's irrelevant that fish are mean in some other meaning of "meant".
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