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I agree with Biggins - re Bisexuals
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Damon_Plembury
02-08-2016
Nah sorry. Not buying this faux outrage at Biggins for his Bisexual comments. Jeez louise, That his opinion.

He's from a different era. He's allowed to have that opinion. We don't need Emo kids who can't take crticisim screaming 'bigots' from their safe space.

As a gay man i believe that is the case for a lot of people, Bi now, Gay later.

Its an easier way for a lot of gay men to come out.

Thats not to say bisexual doesn't exist.

The point he made was that its the gay men, hiding behind a Bi label that are making it harder for actual gay men to fully accept themselves.

I also agree with him on that point.

People are far too overly sensitive these days
Chihiro77
02-08-2016
Thanks for that.

Could you not have just said it on the thread that is already there about Biggins' comment?
zx50
02-08-2016
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“Nah sorry. Not buying this faux outrage at Biggins for his Bisexual comments. Jeez louise, That his opinion.

He's from a different era. He's allowed to have that opinion. We don't need Emo kids who can't take crticisim screaming 'bigots' from their safe space.

As a gay man i believe that is the case for a lot of people, Bi now, Gay later.

Its an easier way for a lot of gay men to come out.

Thats not to say bisexual doesn't exist.

The point he made was that its the gay men, hiding behind a Bi label that are making it harder for actual gay men to fully accept themselves.

I also agree with him on that point.

People are far too overly sensitive these days”

IF that's what he meant, he should have said that. What he said definitely sounded like he was prejudiced towards bisexual people.
Miss.D
02-08-2016
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“Nah sorry. Not buying this faux outrage at Biggins for his Bisexual comments. Jeez louise, That his opinion.

He's from a different era. He's allowed to have that opinion. We don't need Emo kids who can't take crticisim screaming 'bigots' from their safe space.

As a gay man i believe that is the case for a lot of people, Bi now, Gay later.

Its an easier way for a lot of gay men to come out.

Thats not to say bisexual doesn't exist.

The point he made was that its the gay men, hiding behind a Bi label that are making it harder for actual gay men to fully accept themselves.

I also agree with him on that point.

People are far too overly sensitive these days”

BIB. I get that point, completely, and if that is what he meant then I understand that but it was not clear, in my opinion. He was talking a lot about his own experience, but that is his experience and not he cannot speak for others. But that is not the case for all bisexuals and it is not about being sensitive or emo either. Having had a relationship with a woman for 10 years, which was 100% monogamous on my part, there was pressure to refer to myself as a lesbian, but I am not. I am not hiding and I would happily be lesbian if I were one. Why does a label matter so much? To say it is an old opinion, which we should accept, is like saying it is okay to be prejudiced against blacks, the disabled, or muslims. And you're going to say it is not the same but I think you know, as a gay man, that people discriminate against the LGBT community, bisexuals included. So it does matter, and prejudice is prejudice and to dismiss it as being nothing..well, that is quite damaging.
PercyBysshe
02-08-2016
You are an eternal being of luminous starfire living in a physical cocoon.
froja
02-08-2016
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“Nah sorry. Not buying this faux outrage at Biggins for his Bisexual comments. Jeez louise, That his opinion.

He's from a different era. He's allowed to have that opinion. We don't need Emo kids who can't take crticisim screaming 'bigots' from their safe space.

As a gay man i believe that is the case for a lot of people, Bi now, Gay later.

Its an easier way for a lot of gay men to come out.

Thats not to say bisexual doesn't exist.

The point he made was that its the gay men, hiding behind a Bi label that are making it harder for actual gay men to fully accept themselves.

I also agree with him on that point.

People are far too overly sensitive these days”

We don't need Emo kids who can't take crticisim screaming 'bigots' from their safe space. thanks for that generalisation but yeah that statement is not true. We are a wide range of people of different ages on this forum alone and people who voice their opinions on other sites, outlets too. And yes some people do use the bi label before stating gay but Biggins said 'the bisexuals are the worst' followed by his rant and agreed with the mob wife that people need to pick a team.
Damon_Plembury
02-08-2016
thats exactly what he meant
Rachel1995
02-08-2016
I'm not even going to bother arguing this... The things people still think and say literally blows my mind 😤😤😤
broadshoulder
02-08-2016
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“Nah sorry. Not buying this faux outrage at Biggins for his Bisexual comments. Jeez louise, That his opinion.

He's from a different era. He's allowed to have that opinion. We don't need Emo kids who can't take crticisim screaming 'bigots' from their safe space.

As a gay man i believe that is the case for a lot of people, Bi now, Gay later.

Its an easier way for a lot of gay men to come out.

Thats not to say bisexual doesn't exist.

The point he made was that its the gay men, hiding behind a Bi label that are making it harder for actual gay men to fully accept themselves.

I also agree with him on that point.

People are far too overly sensitive these days”

Well said.

The thing is gay men/women have more to do with bisexuals then any heterosexual. The bad press is going to continue if they keep dumping gay men for straight women

And then they want men again
meglosmurmurs
02-08-2016
I don't think Biggins was making any astute observation or anything. It feels like he's just met a couple of people labelling themselves bisexual perhaps so they don't have to fully come out of the closet. Now he's projecting that onto all of them like they are all the same.

Pity he can't adopt the same principle he does with gay marriage. That he supports anyone that does it but it's not for him.
People like Biggins certainly don't help people come out as they'll feel pressured into having to put a label on themself and fit a certain stereotype in order to belong. Very small minded of him.
Veri
02-08-2016
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“Nah sorry. Not buying this faux outrage at Biggins for his Bisexual comments. Jeez louise, That his opinion.

He's from a different era. He's allowed to have that opinion. ...”

So what, though, if it's his opinion and he's allowed to have it?

That doesn't mean people can't have, or shouldn't state, an opinion of his opinion. Nor does it mean he can't be bigoted.
Cheri
02-08-2016
PSA:

1) There are Lesbians too in this world not everything Gay is to do with Men.

2) I'm a bisexual woman who f.ucks men and women and enjoys both. I'm not straight and I'm not gay, I'm Bisexual. I got my finger in both pies boo

3) Nobody give a f.uck what you have to say about Bisexual people. We gonna continue doing us and y'all will deal.
aurichie
02-08-2016
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“People are far too overly sensitive these days”

You're trying to make excuses for a sorry establishment figure. If a #teamsquad member had said something similar everyone on here would be demanding they be kicked out of the house immediately.
Miss.D
02-08-2016
Originally Posted by Cheri:
“PSA:

1) There are Lesbians too in this world not everything Gay is to do with Men.

2) I'm a bisexual woman who f.ucks men and women and enjoys both. I'm not straight and I'm not gay, I'm Bisexual. I got my finger in both pies boo

3) Nobody give a f.uck what you have to say about Bisexual people. We gonna continue doing us and y'all will deal.”

Lesbians did not exist, according to Queen Victoria.
Damon_Plembury
02-08-2016
Originally Posted by Rachel1995:
“I'm not even going to bother arguing this... The things people still think and say literally blows my mind 😤😤😤”

People are allowed to think exactly how they want.
Vodka_Drinka
02-08-2016
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“People are allowed to think exactly how they want.”

And we're allowed to disagree with and challenge you.
Damon_Plembury
02-08-2016
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“And we're allowed to disagree with and challenge you.”

Fine but don't label people something they're not. You people are all about 'no labels' aren't you?
Vodka_Drinka
02-08-2016
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“Fine but don't label people something they're not. You people are all about 'no labels' aren't you?”

What do you mean by 'you people?'
Rachel1995
02-08-2016
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“People are allowed to think exactly how they want.”

You can think exactly what you want but publically thrashing someone's sexuality, something you wouldn't even understand because you don't feel and think what they do, is not insightful or anyways needed! I don't comprehend people who think in such a way! It's LGBT+ for a reason, every human is not programmed the same way! We're not just black and white, there's so many shades in between, the same we are not just Straight or Gay!!! That is all I'm saying on this...
JavarnJohnson
02-08-2016
That's not what Biggins said at all.
Marc_Vu
02-08-2016
Many many many many many gay men/women are gays but using bisexual for excuses... look at Elton John, he has claimed himself bisexual for years until recently... I completely understand what Biggins was trying to say...

Anyway, I believe that there are bisexual people, but not all 50/50 I think, ones more attract to one sex than the other.. etc..
James Frederick
02-08-2016
I'm Asexual and we get a lot of the same BS thrown at us.
KT_Dog
02-08-2016
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“I'm Asexual and we get a lot of the same BS thrown at us.”

What sort of things do asexuals get? "You just haven't met the right person" ?
acid rain
02-08-2016
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“Nah sorry. Not buying this faux outrage at Biggins for his Bisexual comments. Jeez louise, That his opinion.

He's from a different era. He's allowed to have that opinion. We don't need Emo kids who can't take crticisim screaming 'bigots' from their safe space.

As a gay man i believe that is the case for a lot of people, Bi now, Gay later.

Its an easier way for a lot of gay men to come out.

Thats not to say bisexual doesn't exist.

The point he made was that its the gay men, hiding behind a Bi label that are making it harder for actual gay men to fully accept themselves.

I also agree with him on that point.

People are far too overly sensitive these days”


Well, Damien. We also don't need people making up rumours about who's going into the house do we?

I noticed Marianne Faithful never turned up. Why is that?
James Frederick
02-08-2016
Originally Posted by KT_Dog:
“What sort of things do asexuals get? "You just haven't met the right person" ?”

That is one but also we are gay and don't want to admit it.

Others include who raped/sexually abused you to make you not like/want sex.

It's not real.

A lot comes from LGBT people to who also say Asexuals are not part of the LGBT Community.
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