Ok so we've been out earlier getting my parents a nice new up to date tv to bring them into the 21st century! Lol
Problem is, they have a digital tv recorder that's only got a scart connection but the new tv doesn't have scart.

I'm not sure if you can buy a converter so it can be plugged into the new tv? But then again would it be worth it? Because if they record a HD channel it won't record in HD if it's connected via scart will it? So maybe it would be better to just buy a new recorder that's HDMI?

Just to be clear, they just have freeview/free to air channels, and they want to be able to watch one thing and record another.

Thanks.

Oops double post!

If the recorder only has SCART then it is extremely unlikely that it will have a Freeview HD tuner on board anyway. So it won't be able to record HD channels as it won't even know they exist. What the TV can receive is irrelevant as the recorder doesn't even need a TV to operate, it just needs some sort of display device.

If the TV has Composite Video and stereo audio inputs on phono sockets then you could use a SCART to phono plug lead to connect it up.

If the TV has only HDMI then the only option is a SCART to HDMI converter box. You cannot convert with a simple lead, for example

https://www.amazon.co.uk/XCSOURCE-10...dp/B0181RCJTS/

Mind you it would be easier to replace the recorder with one that does HD and has a HDMI output already. And don't forget that most Freeview PVRs have twin tuners so can record two programmes at the same time. Therefore you could record two programmes and watch a third on the TV all at the same time.

Cheers chris, i completely forgot about the scart to phono lead. The connections for that is the coloured bits right? green,blue,red,white, red is what was there, this is the connection for the phono lead isnt it?

Infact, if you go onto google and search lg 43LH604V, then click pictures, if you go down abit theres a picture of the rear on there.

If we have the correct connections for that lead(which i think we do) then it would save alot of money on a new PVR. Although i might have to explain to them that if they record a channel thats HD then it wont be as good quality through the box after its recorded. Maybe ill persuade them to get a new HD PVR.


Another quick question, just to save making a whole thread on it.......... my dad for some reason liked to browse through teletext on their old tv, but on the new one i cant find anyway of getting teletext? theres a button on the remote that says ''TEXT'' but when i press that it says something about ''This function is not available'' or words to that effect? is it just not something new tv's have anymore? I did explain to him that yes its a brand new tv and it is indeed called a ''Smart'' tv, but most people would just check there sports results/weather etc via the internet on the pc/phone, or even on the tv via the browser or something,not via teletext, its old hat now.

Just thought id ask, can i not find it because its simply not there on new tv's, or is it because i didnt find it? Its no big deal, but as its something ive never looked for/used for years then i wouldnt have a clue, saying that, its 2016 and he said it was working on his old tv?
Thanks

The Red Green and Blue video phonos are for Component video which is not available over SCART. The images I found (the manual available from LG's website being as useful as a chocolate teapot) show that the green socket has a half yellow and half green plastic ring. This is the Composite Video input which SCART does provide.

So you would plug the yellow plug from a SCART to phono lead into the green/yellow socket and the red and white plugs on the lead into the red and white Audio sockets.


Forget about HD channels on the recorder. It cannot receive them so cannot record them. The fact that the TV can receive HD channels is completely and totally irrelevant. The recorder only uses the TV as a display, it neither knows nor cares what channels the TV can receive or even if it can receive any channels at all. It ONLY uses it's own built in tuners so it is only what they can receive that can be recorded. So no point at all mentioning recording HD as they won't find any HD channels to record anyway no matter how hard they look.


Teletext was a strictly analogue system so it ended when all analogue transmitters were switched off four years ago. There is a "text" system on a very few channels (BBC only?) that is usually accessed via the red button. You won't find any service on the majority of channels. And where it does exist you may find it is only on the SD versions of the channel.

Also on the BBC channels if the TV is set up with an internet connection it may access the internet streaming version of the red button service which gives a load of extra functions.

Ahh ok i get you.

So this lead here would do the job? http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/scart-to-3...web-only-l17aj

And i reckon after reading what you've said about teletext, my dad is probably confusing teletext with the red button, i think he was probably pressing that thinking it was teletext.
Whenever someone mentions teletext i get flashbacks of a black page full of white blocky text, or that game Bamboozle!
As i said, no great bother really, but ill get him to try the red button on the SD channels aswell, never thought of that.

Thanks very much for taking time to reply

I cant edit my last post, wanted to add that ive just phoned my dad and told him to put the tv onto BBC one HD and press the red button and see what happens............, sure enough the menu comes up and he said thats exactly what he was after, so just as i thought he was getting red button and teletext mixed up! Thanks for pointing me in the right direction though.

Right in the end we got the correct cable for the recorder box but they've decided to upgrade the box to a HD one, at least then it will have HDMI connections, better picture/sound quality. The picture quality on the old box connected to the new tv via the scart/phono lead was rubbish Anyway, think having the bigger screen just amplified how rubbish the old box was!

So now we are looking for a new box, I see they seem to be around £130-150 for a half decent brand. Was looking in currys at the BT youview box for £130. They won't use any of the smart features, they just want to record programmes and watch them back. I can't find any basic good brand recorders that JUST record, they seem to be rubbish brands with really bad reviews, or ones that are good brands are twice as expensive but do twice the amount of things! Is there not a decent brand one that just records? Because I'll be damned if I can find one.

May just go with the BT Youview but then someone in the reviews says" needs BT broadband to work". Do they mean for the smart features like netflix etc, surely you wouldn't need BT broadband just to record?

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-...03774-pdt.html

Most of the cheaper brands are often the same basic box with different badges glued on the front. Even brands like Hitachi and JVC which were once half decent brands are just badges stuck on the same type of boxes you'll see sold as the likes of Bush.

The BT YouView box does not actually need BT Broadband to work. Or indeed any Broadband of any flavour. If you have no broadband connection you lose the smart features and also the catchup feature of YouView which allows you to scroll back in time and find previously broadcast programmes.

I'm not sure if that part of YouView gets hidden from the EPG if there is no broadband. I suspect it will to some extent as I doubt it can populate the catchup section of the EPG with programmes without a broadband connection. But even so might cause a bit of confusion if it hints that the catchup is available but doesn't show anything.

Crikey that was a quick response, thanks!

Problem is they do have broadband but it's absolutely shockingly rubbish/slow in their village, I was round there earlier and tried to do a speed test on my phone but it wouldn't even go past the "finding server" screen to actually start a test, so I gave up!

But anyway, another reason I was looking at slightly more expensive/well known brands, is because quite often the cheaper boxes have rubbish software or unintuitive menu systems, for example we have a Bush set top box in the bedroom just for basic tv viewing, and for the most part it's ok, but it's very slow at starting up/turning off, and the menus are very laggy, but for me it's ok for the bedroom. If it's for my parents main tv though, I'd want them to have something abit better than that, I mean their not tech savvy so it needs to be very easy to use and reliable etc. That's why I was leaning towards the BT box. Your saying it wouldn't need an Internet connection to record/playback(I suppose it's obvious but after seeing that review had to check!). So may end up suggesting that one to them.

If their internet was better they would just use the catchup services like BBC Iplayer etc, but until the village gets upgraded they'll need a recorder box I suppose.

Cheers