That's what I thought - I don't think there's much of a crime in making noise It's the physical aspect that James was objecting to, quite rightly in my opinion.

They wound him up deliberately - never wind somebody up if you don't know what they may do in retaliation. If you are prepared to wind somebody up, accept the reaction in good grace.

Really? I found the sight of Bear, Lewis and Heavy surrounding James to rub his head while jeering and mocking disturbing. The comment that the more he complained the more of it he'd get was definitely bullying.

Lewis and Bear shouting crude comments at Saira and James was bullying.
The humiliation of Saira by Marnie was bullying.

You are having a laugh, right?
I take it you haven't seen the behaviour of some of the younger housemates in there?

I am afraid I have to disagree with you in the strongest terms. If the coffee had been made and was scalding hot, it would still have been perfectly acceptable, indeed preferable.

Although, Lewis didn't appear to join in the physical stuff, from what we were allowed to see, he was instrumental in the whole episode. He had a lot of power in that situation. If he had wanted to he could have told them enough was enough and to leave it out, so early in the morning. Instead, he chose to aggravate the situation. Bear and Boom seemed to be stopping, when Lewis suggested the more he protested the more they were going to do it. Him laughing and egging them on made things escalate.

initially it was just Bear and Heavy D dancing round and slapping James on the head, but later Lewis did join in with the dancing up close to James.

I am sure Lewis was in on the hug though when one of them said 'let's give James a hug', I thought it was all three of them.

Lewis again - I don't want to seem like a fan, I'm really not - but he wasn't surrounding James and rubbing his head at all!

I was wondering what would have happened if that pan that Bear picked up had been on the oven, the liquid in it would have been very hot. He just picked it up and threw the contents, completely unaware of what was in it.

THAT, I thought, would be worthy of BB talking to him.

Oh right, I apologise if I'm remembering inaccurately - I honestly don't remember him doing that, because I recall just after the fire alarm went off and he was at the oven cooking at the time.

Exactly this, I was about to say the same thing, you saved me writing it!

Bear and Heavy wouldn't take 'pack it in' for a answer and continued to pat and paw James' head until he threw coffee over him. Plus Lewis joined in and goaded James too!

It was definitely these three ganging up on James and YES bullying him! BB should have stepped in! It was awful seeing 3 lads harassing an older man!

Oh so you are watching it 24/7 then?

I am not 100% though

Exactly. It was absolutely hilarious seeing him turning into a pile of dung.

They are watching through Bear tinted glasses.

Are you joking, James put up with loads before he done that with 3 of them goading him! I would have given them a right mouthful and Bear deserved having the coffee thrown over him for being so damn obnoxious and arrogant! It was group bullying!

I also thought James looked very uncomfortable too. Almost panicky IMO.

Yes I think aurichie is definitely posting just to wind FMs up.

Bear, Lewis, Marnie and Heavy D are certainly demonstrating playground bullying and playground everything else. BUT Saira and James have been the most invasively physically aggressive in passive ways on Saira's part and actively in response to pisstaking on James's part.
Saira's class/health and "intellectual" snobbery had her hopping about like the lead interviewer on an employment agency open day asking the young uns this and that to the point of winding them up and basically creating the "Squad". Twenty five years ago James Whale had a show were he and assorted Tory guests leared at invited lap dancers and encouraged female interns to get boobs and bums out. His hypocrisy is born of his snobbery against Marnie doing that on her own (ill advised admittedly) terms and Bear etc talking about that stuff.

It is a generational and cultural clash. Bovey, Renee and Sam are demonstrating how you handle the young folk - James and Saira are acting like contemptuous supply teachers in an inner city school and getting the results. Biggins is acting like a rich dude who had his wallet nicked by last night's rentboy.

It is a mini class war and as unpleasant as the "Squad"'s actions can be they are responding to ugly passive aggressive triggers from those they now target.

The above post couldn't be more wrong!

So despite them being told to stay out of James's space, which they continued to ignore and get in his personal space that wasn't done in a intimidating/bullying manner?

Behave - James should have lamped Bear.

Marnie being egged on by the 3 bullies to do that in a housemates face not bullying behaviour?

hmmm - what some people find acceptable behaviour.

Bear was already sitting down (done with winding up, or bullying James) when James poured the coffee on him. I thought Boom, Lewis and Bear were in the wrong when they continued to wind up (bully) James after he told them to stop. I also thought James was wrong to react, once they had stopped, by pouring coffee on only Bear who then responded poorly by reacting to that by pouring sugar and water on James. They all acted/reacted poorly imo.

So what should James have done then? What would you have done in that situation? I know I wouldn't have been able to turn a blind eye. I don't think I would have thrown coffee on anyone, but I would have snapped, sworn and shouted at them and definitely pushed them firmly away if they had been touching me or surrounding me in that way. Would that have been an over reaction, do you think?

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They were done and sitting down. If they kept talking to me in a way I didn't like then I would have said stop picking on me and to f*ck off, then walked away.

LOL I've seen it all now

Utter, utter tosh.

You are acting like an enabler.