It's almost like they want to make us shout 'but we didn't see that' and they are laughing at us by sneaking in the flash-back just at the right time.

But they specifically stated that it was if viewers might deem it offensive so they are saying they were doing it in case viewers MIGHT find it offensive.

If it was entirely up to them, that they deemed Marnie, Bear, Lewis, Heavy and come to that James and chloe's retaliation acceptable but Aubreys not - i could accept it. Might not agree but i could accept it. After all, from the original BB rules as printed in the BB companion and said aloud several times in early season, Rule 10 is that BB makes the rules so can change them at any time.

but they have specifically mentioned viewers possible offence as a reason for warning Aubrey when viewers (not just one but multiple) have already found offence at others actions which have not been reprimanded as far as we have been shown.

That is the contradiction.

Also, in case anybody says that spitting is an accepted no, no in society, I agree but then so is public indecency, flashing, Threatening behaviour and Actual Bodily Harm all of which have arguably occurred without formal warnings being issued this week.

The gnats are in the garden right now on live feed........ready and waiting to nip and annoy the rest of the house........

Thanks.

Was away staying with relatives until today so saw most of it but only once but series linked it. On checking when i got back today, it didn't record Mondays but have all the others. I think Mondays was the one with rubbing James' head and noms.

Indecent exposure is a criminal offence and that is what that was.

Would you feel the same if a man had whipped his penis out inches from her face and jiggled it whilst asking if she had a problem with him because her Husband's cock is smaller than his? Or if he'd done it to a man?

Every employer, even on a short term contract as with BB's 'stars' have a duty of care. That includes Health and Safety issues from basics like adequate fire escapes to toilet breaks and not being in dangerous situations re violence, hygiene or sexual misconduct.

Yes they're adults but they are in an enclosed environment. In the outside world, somebody could walk away properly from a woman shoving their tits in their face or being surrounded by people touching their heads. They could take time properly alone,** breathe and then report it to their employer if it happened at work or the Police if outside or both.

They can't do that here without losing tasks (which is why BB should stop stuff like Bear effectively stopping Lewis going to the loo) which means food penalties or losing their fee if they walk.

Yes, celebs do sign up for it and they're paid well but Endemol still has a duty of care as an employer and they are failing in it much of the time imo.

Sometimes, btw, OFCOM finds in favour of complaints. If they didn't, it wouldn't exist.

I'm not an habitual complainer, i've never complained to any tv company or OFCOM but i do object to me, as a viewer, being used as a reason to discipline a housemate when I, as * viewer, have found much worse that has not been disciplined.

I agree with you Kitkat. The spitting was foul but no worse only different to other equally repulsive actions. No justtificaton I can think of to single out that action alone for censure.

You mention the incident with Bear stopping Lewis going to the loo - I had a stern lecture** about holding in your wee when I had a kidney infection earlier this year. Apparently it's not a good thing to hold it in, it can cause infections and you should go when you need to go!

I agree with your point about duty of care and with regard to BB being selective with regard to not just formal warnings, but perhaps a little reminder about appropriate behaviour now and again.

I don't, personally, think that Marnie should have been warned about her behaviour towards Saira - because I think that BB is about seeing how people cope with other people and that they are all grown-ups who should be able to tell somebody when they find something offensive - however I do think that BB should have had a word with Marnie.

I also think they should certainly have had a word with Bear and perhaps Heavy with regard to the coffee/dancing incident.

Having watched Live Feed tonight I am re-thinking the Heavy situation, it's become more obvious to him and to others that he was being used laughed at, so hopefully the situation with him will change. He's had a couple of good chats with Ricky and Aubrey who have told him that he shouldn't feel he has to do what the others say to try and fit in and he himself mentioned that he felt he was doing it for the wrong reasons. There seems to have been some division now between him and the younger ones.

Interestingly, also on Live Feed - we are learning more from live feed than from the highlights! - BB was warning housemates (specifically the younger lot) about leaving other housemate's personal space alone, so I'm wondering if they are either paying attention to negative reactions from the public or if something has happened today that we don't know about (or both).

EDIT: **from a doctor

Interesting, thanks for that.

Without going too much into personal details, i had recurrant cystitus from when i was a baby (due to my mother having had it when she wa pregnant with me) and actually ended up having surgery and then my bladder and kidneys 'rinsed out' once a month by a catheter as an outpatient for a year to get rid of it when i was 17.

My mother died of sepcis which came from a UTI which had been underlying for so long it became resistant to antibiotics.

So, UTI's are something i know a great deal about, i know how serious they can be chronically and even terminally.

And you're right, holding it in is the worse thing you can do if there is any infections it just breeds.

I'm not suggesting that Lewis has such an infection or it is that serious but is is another potential health problem that they ignored whilst making 'spitgate' a dreadful thing.

Stopping somebody using the loo when they need to is humiliating, demeaning, cruel and potentially damaging to health.

Re Marnie, it is complicated in that breasts aren"t intimate areas in the way either genders downstairs areas are. A woman can after all (rightly) breastfeed in a public area. And there are complications re public and private exposure - is the BB garden deemed a private area as somebody's home or garden would be? You can't exactly draw a comparison to somebody doing that in an office or on a train or in a park.

I do think it is questionable though and something the Police might need to investigate as they would if somebody exposed themselves at a private house party.

They're a pretty disgusting bunch of Housemates in general this year. I'm not sure why I'm still watching. It seems to have plummeted to an all time low - I didn't really think it was possible but most of them are so mind numbingly ignorant and just ...............grubby IMO.

I'm guessing you don't know what insidious means. Because spitting in someone's food is anything but insidious. It's pretty blatant, wouldn't you say?


Lol. I agree. It is beneath it.


Look, I think it's pretty disgusting. But lots of things have been. Not to mention, housemates "swapping spit" voluntarily.

I agree with you Very grubby and with a streak of nastiness. The bear, Lewis, boom group need to be split by at least one of the leaving

Mmmm ... not harmless though is it.

I agree but the problem is with Aubrey committing such a foul act the focus has obviously been taken off those morons.

She was truly disgusting. I loathe bear but spitting in someone's food is unacceptable

She had to receive a formal and final warning for spitting - although with Big Brother watching, why didn't they stop Bear from drinking and eating the goods? They are watching 24/7, there are loggers logging the activity - if I was Bear I'd be asking those questions.