I agree, and I share your low opinion of C Biggins, but I'm puzzled as to why you made the comment 'He is 70 years old.' What's the relevance of his age?

I thought he was trying to get Saira into the toilet to speak to her?

The relevance is that he is a fully grown adult. He could be 50 he could be 30 he could be 20.

But his sense of humour is that of a child like the other men in that house.

As if jokes can't be objectionable.


As if jokes can't be objectionable so that anyone who objects must not "get" them.


As if jokes can't be objectionable so that anyone who objects must not "get" them or must be hypocritically literal minded.

(So many excuses for older HMs. So little tolerance of young ones.)

But that wouldn't have made sense because Boom wasn't one of the servants. I think your career as a gag writer needs work.

Absolutely agree.biggins is foul.and agree that Whale...sort of...and fat boy are the only gents bless em.

Most of the other men, and also most of the women, in that house.

Sorry dude but you keep changing the goalposts

How strange. The OP said that it wasn't a joke so they can't have got the joke AND they did exactly the same with jokes Andy made in the recent civilian BB IE made out that they weren't jokes. Maybe if you actually watched the show you could make more relevant criticism

None of that calls for any change whatsoever in what I said, and my criticism was ENTIRELY relevant.

It will be interesting to see what excuses are made for Biggins as the show goes on, though.

And if bear had said this the forum would be up in arms.

Entirely what

You were wrong as the OP didn't find the joke objectionable as they didn't believe that it was a joke at all. They found Biggins behaviour objectionable.

If you watched the show you would have seen that it was a joke just like 99% of the people on here, many who don't even like Biggins so it is not about making an excuse for him. However ironically the OP seems to be using any excuse to have a go at him

It's in the post.


How is that supposed to be contrary to what I said?

It doesn't even make sense. If someone found the behaviour objectionable, and the behaviour was a joke, then they found the joke objectionable regardless of whether they saw it as a joke or not.

I suppose it was always inevitable that Biggins's objectionable behaviour would be excused though, no matter how convoluted the "reasoning" required.


It doesn't make any difference to what I said whether it actually was a joke or not. Either way, the claim that it was a joke was being used to excuse what Biggins said.

FGS The OP said that it wasn't a joke. The OP was making out that Biggins literally wanted Saira to go into the toilet with him and wipe his bum for him and it was that behaviour that they found objectionable. There is no way round the fact that it was a joke but by all means find the joke objectionable and many will agree with you I'm sure however there is no getting away from the fact that he was not being serious about his request and the OP said that he was.

I think you might benefit from properly reading the thread as well as watching the show before you make these comments.

This seems to be a very strange conversation. It's like you are talking to someone down a phone line who can't see or read anything from their end.

Ricky is disgusting for laughing at Aubrey spitting in someones food. I thought he was alright until I saw that. Biggins was having a dig at Heavy, he wasn't actually asking them to wipe his bum.

Wow, not outraged "But what if" scenarios have cropped up yet.

But what if it was a woman that said that, and it wasn't wipe my bum but it was pull out my tampon and cram in another - what if someone said that? And what if it were somebody with a colostomy bag they said "Come change my squitty bag, bitch!" and that's do disrespecting and dergradingation of that person.

Then he should have addressed Heavy. The fact is he made the women the butt of his "joke" i.e. adding to their misery.

If Bear or Lewis had chimed in with a similar comment the forum would rightly be all over them.

But because it's Biggins the whole thing is being brushed off as a joke without acknowledging the wider context.

What like they're not watching the show even

Yes, exactly that.

Oh for goodness sakes, I don't particularly like the guy but ffs...he was actually trying to make light of a situation. ..... don't let facts get in the way of championing another housemate lol

I will never understand why forum members just don't champion their own preferred housemate without resorting to American politic tactics of trashing other housemates and other forum members who don't support their chosen housemate! lol.....it's hilarious!

Well this "American politics tactic" is an integral part of this forum, we are here to have lively discussions that involve negative threads on housemates we don't like.

There are FAR more critical threads of other housemates than there are of Biggins. I've seen maybe 2 or 3 other threads criticising him.

How many threads are there criticising Bear? And rightly so!!!

If Bear or Lewis said it, it WOULD have been different because theres more tension around them at the moment so it would be harder for them to pass of that kind of joke. With Biggins he's seen as fairly harmless and regularly says quite absurd jokes so it was pretty obvious it was a joke and thankfully most people here seem to have seen that too. I can't believe this is even being debated out all the stuff that happened on tonights show this line seemed one of the lighter moments.

Fire away, I just thought it was more productive to be positive about the housemate you wanted to win

The rest of your points aren't worth replying to as they are nonsense and also I don't know how to multi quote

He's not hes nasty and rude, and passes it off with his fake show laugh. He believes the self imposed national treasure hype and thinks he has it in the bag. are also spoonfeeding the gullible this national treasure malarkey.

His usual tiresome endless/smutty gay innuendos are unbearable. Not because he's gay but its annoying, it really is. Anyone that carried on like him would get challenged eventually, but no not him.... as its funny apparently. rylan is taking lessons from him it appears.

Just look at bear, he's a percentage to biggins and rightfully people think he's disrespectful, then why not biggins?