chloe didn't wash his underpants sairi did.
Disgusting and degrading been asked to wash someones dirty underwear
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Originally Posted by Randysback:
“She's not squeamish about saying the words "I don't have to **** the fat one" about heavy D or dildo'ing herself on camera
Funny how women can be as crude as the crudest men but when it suits them they can suddenly be a delicate little angel.
One rule for women one for men. If Bear spat in Aubrey's food he'd be on the bus home now, also if he waved his testicles in front of Saira he'd be on the earlier bus.. Marnie didn't even get a warning.”
“She's not squeamish about saying the words "I don't have to **** the fat one" about heavy D or dildo'ing herself on camera
Funny how women can be as crude as the crudest men but when it suits them they can suddenly be a delicate little angel.
One rule for women one for men. If Bear spat in Aubrey's food he'd be on the bus home now, also if he waved his testicles in front of Saira he'd be on the earlier bus.. Marnie didn't even get a warning.”
I can't disagree with any of that and I'm a woman, just not a hypocrite.
He is disgusting, he clearly was seeking to humiliate Chloe for declining him sexually. He is clearly a man who reacts badly to sexual harassment and seeks to humiliate or degrade those who reject him.
Originally Posted by DomJolly:
“i'm sure she's done more degrading things than wash underwear”
“i'm sure she's done more degrading things than wash underwear”
By her choice.
Not by being ordered to as a slave and having her master laugh at her.
Bear stated he'd had worse things in his mouth than Aubrey's stale saliva but that doesn't make what she did okay as he had no choice in the matter.
Originally Posted by urt31:
“He is disgusting, he clearly was seeking to humiliate Chloe for declining him sexually. He is clearly a man who reacts badly to sexual harassment and seeks to humiliate or degrade those who reject him.”
“He is disgusting, he clearly was seeking to humiliate Chloe for declining him sexually. He is clearly a man who reacts badly to sexual harassment and seeks to humiliate or degrade those who reject him.”
His behaviour isn't about being declined. It's about his feeling that she lead him on. She was effectively taking the piss out of the 'fat one'. That's what touched his nerve, as it's probably not the first time it's happened to him.
The moment he was told Chloe did that to his bed was heartbreaking, as you could see the realisation on his face that the woman he thought liked him felt nothing but contempt for him.
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“By her choice.
Not by being ordered to as a slave and having her master laugh at her.”
“By her choice.
Not by being ordered to as a slave and having her master laugh at her.”
It was a task. She wasn't really a slave. She had a choice. You think she wouldn't be straight into the diary room having words with the producers?
Originally Posted by JackieDVD:
“It was a task. She wasn't really a slave. She had a choice. You think she wouldn't be straight into the diary room having words with the producers?”
“It was a task. She wasn't really a slave. She had a choice. You think she wouldn't be straight into the diary room having words with the producers?”
They don't have a choice unless they are prepared to forfeit the task and thus lose their luxury food budget for a week which aside from not liking that for themselves, they might be blamed by the rest of their team and more liable to be nominated.
Of course they're adults being paid to do a job - it is not like being an actual slave where a person is owned and has no rights at all. They did choose to do BB knowing what it might entail.
But, if they are going to do their job properly and not lose the task, they didn't have any choice but to do everything their human master instructed - no matter how demeaning or degrading.
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“actually you can pick up germs from handling traces of faeces, even 'stale' ones such as skid $arks.
It is highly unlikely if other standard hygiene precautions are taken such as thoroughly washing hands after contact, not putting fingers into mouth or near an open wound before disinfecting after contact but it is possible.
It is also very unlikely that anybody could contract an infection from stale saliva in a drink or food but as it is possible, Aubrey was rightly reprimanded for it.
The point is that Heavy and Bear are acting as though they have been targeted in a disgusting way when they did nothing to deserve it when they actually had done things which many would deem as bad re making people wash their dirty underwear, specifying they needed to really scrub at it and also making somebody that said they needed the loo sit in one position for an hour and a half.
I can't stand Lewis but that was awful. That wouldn't even happen in a lockdown in Prison, they'd have a bucket to relieve themselves in but Lewis couldn't fo that in the lounge, or even get up without losing the task and Bear (do bears shit in the woods, this one Def would) knew that and was doing it to demean and try and force Lewis into doing something that would lose the task.”
“actually you can pick up germs from handling traces of faeces, even 'stale' ones such as skid $arks.
It is highly unlikely if other standard hygiene precautions are taken such as thoroughly washing hands after contact, not putting fingers into mouth or near an open wound before disinfecting after contact but it is possible.
It is also very unlikely that anybody could contract an infection from stale saliva in a drink or food but as it is possible, Aubrey was rightly reprimanded for it.
The point is that Heavy and Bear are acting as though they have been targeted in a disgusting way when they did nothing to deserve it when they actually had done things which many would deem as bad re making people wash their dirty underwear, specifying they needed to really scrub at it and also making somebody that said they needed the loo sit in one position for an hour and a half.
I can't stand Lewis but that was awful. That wouldn't even happen in a lockdown in Prison, they'd have a bucket to relieve themselves in but Lewis couldn't fo that in the lounge, or even get up without losing the task and Bear (do bears shit in the woods, this one Def would) knew that and was doing it to demean and try and force Lewis into doing something that would lose the task.”
well said - and as someone said Aubrey's act, vile as it was seems to be a reaction to treatment, which is the only reason I can imagine no one else intervened, whilst Heavy D's has no justification other than some imagined slight
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“They don't have a choice unless they are prepared to forfeit the task and thus lose their luxury food budget for a week which aside from not liking that for themselves, they might be blamed by the rest of their team and more liable to be nominated.
Of course they're adults being paid to do a job - it is not like being an actual slave where a person is owned and has no rights at all. They did choose to do BB knowing what it might entail.
But, if they are going to do their job properly and not lose the task, they didn't have any choice but to do everything their human master instructed - no matter how demeaning or degrading.”
“They don't have a choice unless they are prepared to forfeit the task and thus lose their luxury food budget for a week which aside from not liking that for themselves, they might be blamed by the rest of their team and more liable to be nominated.
Of course they're adults being paid to do a job - it is not like being an actual slave where a person is owned and has no rights at all. They did choose to do BB knowing what it might entail.
But, if they are going to do their job properly and not lose the task, they didn't have any choice but to do everything their human master instructed - no matter how demeaning or degrading.”
It's a tv entertainment show. They have contracts. They're paid performers. If she wasn't happy she'd be straight in the diary room. She may well have been, and came to an agreement. None of them will do anything 'demeaning' or 'degrading' except by consent.
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“By her choice.
Not by being ordered to as a slave and having her master laugh at her.
Bear stated he'd had worse things in his mouth than Aubrey's stale saliva but that doesn't make what she did okay as he had no choice in the matter.”
“By her choice.
Not by being ordered to as a slave and having her master laugh at her.
Bear stated he'd had worse things in his mouth than Aubrey's stale saliva but that doesn't make what she did okay as he had no choice in the matter.”
She has a choice to leave the BB house if she doesnt want to do the tasks
Originally Posted by Paace:
“Why didn't BB step in and stop Heavy giving that filthy job, especially as they have to do it by hand . They could catch all kinds of disease . No one should be asked to clean a stranger's filthy underwear .”
“Why didn't BB step in and stop Heavy giving that filthy job, especially as they have to do it by hand . They could catch all kinds of disease . No one should be asked to clean a stranger's filthy underwear .”
Its not as bad as spitting in someones drink, if she didnt want to do them she should have said no, simples.
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