Originally Posted by kaceyy:
“much like Grant and older housemate is a creepy old man”
“much like Grant and older housemate is a creepy old man”
Correct.
Feel a bit sorry for Big D
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Originally Posted by urt31:
“Yes, he has got to the age of 43 and he is still under the impression that a girl spurning his advances is a reason to degrade and humiliate her. He is vile. Anybody who uses the fact a woman will not engage with them sexually as a form of leverage is a ****. I genuinely see no reason for his continued existence, he is a sexually harassing ****.”
“Yes, he has got to the age of 43 and he is still under the impression that a girl spurning his advances is a reason to degrade and humiliate her. He is vile. Anybody who uses the fact a woman will not engage with them sexually as a form of leverage is a ****. I genuinely see no reason for his continued existence, he is a sexually harassing ****.”
unless you're watching the show on a loop he isn't currently doing anything to her, last i heard he was steering well clear and still does not excuse you wanting him to lose his life.. in short.. re evaluate your life before wishing death on anyone..
Originally Posted by kaceyy:
“unless you're watching the show on a loop he isn't currently doing anything to her, last i heard he was steering well clear and still does not excuse you wanting him to lose his life.. in short.. re evaluate your life before wishing death on anyone..”
“unless you're watching the show on a loop he isn't currently doing anything to her, last i heard he was steering well clear and still does not excuse you wanting him to lose his life.. in short.. re evaluate your life before wishing death on anyone..”
Well said!
Originally Posted by chameleon212:
“Correct.”
“Correct.”
so he's creepy but Renee isn't ? interesting because it seemed as if Marnie had asked the creepy old man to brush her hair in the task, but sure if it fits your small minded view then lets just agree to disagree.
Originally Posted by kaceyy:
“unless you're watching the show on a loop he isn't currently doing anything to her, last i heard he was steering well clear and still does not excuse you wanting him to lose his life.. in short.. re evaluate your life before wishing death on anyone..”
“unless you're watching the show on a loop he isn't currently doing anything to her, last i heard he was steering well clear and still does not excuse you wanting him to lose his life.. in short.. re evaluate your life before wishing death on anyone..”
He has demonstrated a belief that it is correct to humiliate and harass any woman who declines his advances. I see no point to continue his existence.
Originally Posted by urt31:
“He has demonstrated a belief that it is correct to humiliate and harass any woman who declines his advances. I see no point to continue his existence.”
“He has demonstrated a belief that it is correct to humiliate and harass any woman who declines his advances. I see no point to continue his existence.”
this would be a fair point had Bb not picked the task to be as such. i agree to a point early on he had made Chloe feel a little uncomfortable but personally even though Heavy D's order maybe considered distasteful i think it's fair game and still doesn't justify what you have said.
Originally Posted by kaceyy:
“this would be a fair point had Bb not picked the task to be as such. i agree to a point early on he had made Chloe feel a little uncomfortable but personally even though Heavy D's order maybe considered distasteful i think it's fair game and still doesn't justify what you have said.”
“this would be a fair point had Bb not picked the task to be as such. i agree to a point early on he had made Chloe feel a little uncomfortable but personally even though Heavy D's order maybe considered distasteful i think it's fair game and still doesn't justify what you have said.”
All other housemates saw fit to inconvenience and challenge others. He felt the need to bring a piece of fabric that had close contact with his genitals into close contact with a woman who had made it clear that she did not want any contact with that area. He did it because he has no concept of dignity or consent.
Originally Posted by urt31:
“All other housemates saw fit to inconvenience and challenge others. He felt the need to bring a piece of fabric that had close contact with his genitals into close contact with a woman who had made it clear that she did not want any contact with that area. He did it because he has no concept of dignity or consent.”
“All other housemates saw fit to inconvenience and challenge others. He felt the need to bring a piece of fabric that had close contact with his genitals into close contact with a woman who had made it clear that she did not want any contact with that area. He did it because he has no concept of dignity or consent.”
Seriously? At any point she could've declined the order so while he may have offended your sensitive little soul it isn't that big of a deal that anyone should want his life to end.. considering your lack of respect for others it's a wonder why Heavy D isn't your idol if you think he's that bad.
Originally Posted by kaceyy:
“Seriously? At any point she could've declined the order so while he may have offended your sensitive little soul it isn't that big of a deal that anyone should want his life to end.. considering your lack of respect for others it's a wonder why Heavy D isn't your idol if you think he's that bad.”
“Seriously? At any point she could've declined the order so while he may have offended your sensitive little soul it isn't that big of a deal that anyone should want his life to end.. considering your lack of respect for others it's a wonder why Heavy D isn't your idol if you think he's that bad.”
She could have declined the order and been punished as a result. He harassed and humiliated her from a position of power as a result of her declining his sexual advances.
Originally Posted by urt31:
“He is a ****, making a young girl wash his shitty pants for pleasure. I hope his car crashes on the way out of the compound, bottom feeding ********.”
“He is a ****, making a young girl wash his shitty pants for pleasure. I hope his car crashes on the way out of the compound, bottom feeding ********.”
That 'young girl' is a 25 year old mother of one. Stop infantilizing Chloe.
Originally Posted by Cat-:
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I doubt this guy even knows what's been done to him or against him.
Sad!
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I doubt this guy even knows what's been done to him or against him.
Sad!
”
This is the impression I'm getting.
He's being used as a performing monkey by the nasty squad in a cruel way.
I don't condone his behaviour at all, but I don't think he genuinely appreciates the severity of it. When patient people explain to him, he looks genuinely bewildered to begin with....
As someone else said, you begin to wonder whether he should be in there.
I'm pretty sure he has something wrong with him mentally, he seems incredibly naive and foolish for a man of his age. The other housemates were talking to him during the live feed like he was a child and he was responding to it.
Originally Posted by Annabel la:
“I'm quite shocked to realise he is 43 !”
“I'm quite shocked to realise he is 43 !”
He is 43? I dislike him more now, I thought he was young mid twenties like the nasties, now it was just pathetic try so hard to be cool, just plain sad.
He's not the sharpest tool in the box, however he's trying hard to be in with the ''cool gang'' & is making a bigger tit of himself!
He surely doesn't behave like that in his normal life, he would have been called out on that kind of behaviour (or I'd like to think so).
As for the rest of his cronies, they're a bunch of immature morons, who are likely to continue with their obnoxious behaviour, because that's what has brought them ''fame'' in the past.
Sadly they're considered by some of the public as ''stars'', & therefore they can do no wrong, all of their behaviour is expected & applauded. A grim reflection of what fame actually means nowadays to some!
He surely doesn't behave like that in his normal life, he would have been called out on that kind of behaviour (or I'd like to think so).
As for the rest of his cronies, they're a bunch of immature morons, who are likely to continue with their obnoxious behaviour, because that's what has brought them ''fame'' in the past.
Sadly they're considered by some of the public as ''stars'', & therefore they can do no wrong, all of their behaviour is expected & applauded. A grim reflection of what fame actually means nowadays to some!
Originally Posted by chameleon212:
“It's not name calling to point out that a man aggressively shouting "get your tits out" is a form of sexual harassment.
Mature members of society condemn such behaviour.”
“It's not name calling to point out that a man aggressively shouting "get your tits out" is a form of sexual harassment.
Mature members of society condemn such behaviour.”
Wasnt it Bear that said that ? To Saira during the task with James.
There is obviously something lacking with him. He doesn't seem to have matured beyond the age of 10. He started off trying to be one of the ground cool crowd and did gladly did every stupid thing they asked him to. Now they've turned on him and he's sitting there being bombarded with advice about his behaviour from the other group. There is no part of this 43 year old man that knows how to just be himself without someone telling him how to be. I'd never heard of him but he has clearly become some kind of "celeb" by behaving like a fool on TV znd being encouraged to do so. Now he's been encouraged to go further and and it's backfired and he now needs to be counselled by others on how to conduct himself. It will be interesting to see how he carries on for the rest of his time but I just see him looking bewildered by the whole notion that he is doing anything wrong.
Originally Posted by Harry Redknapp:
“That 'young girl' is a 25 year old mother of one. Stop infantilizing Chloe.”
“That 'young girl' is a 25 year old mother of one. Stop infantilizing Chloe.”
So it's ok to do that to mothers then
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“So it's ok to do that to mothers then”
“So it's ok to do that to mothers then”
Is it ok for him to ask a mother to wash his underwear as part of a BB task ?
Well in the context of BB reality gameshow, under BB reality gameshow rules - presumably if it was not ok then BB would have intervened to stipulate that it was not ok.
Originally Posted by lon_chaney:
“Is it ok for him to ask a mother to wash his underwear as part of a BB task ?
Well in the context of BB reality gameshow, under BB reality gameshow rules - presumably if it was not ok then BB would have intervened to stipulate that it was not ok.”
“Is it ok for him to ask a mother to wash his underwear as part of a BB task ?
Well in the context of BB reality gameshow, under BB reality gameshow rules - presumably if it was not ok then BB would have intervened to stipulate that it was not ok.”
Just like they intervened to prevent Bear from eating spit. Oh wait...
Originally Posted by urt31:
“He is a ****, making a young girl wash his shitty pants for pleasure. I hope his car crashes on the way out of the compound, bottom feeding ********.”
“He is a ****, making a young girl wash his shitty pants for pleasure. I hope his car crashes on the way out of the compound, bottom feeding ********.”
Did he hold her arm behind her back and make her do it,ffs it was a task which he wanted to win, it was a great idea as he thought she wouldnt do it. BTW she didnt have to do it, she could have refused and failed the task.
Originally Posted by SnowStorm86:
“Just like they intervened to prevent Bear from eating spit. Oh wait...”
“Just like they intervened to prevent Bear from eating spit. Oh wait...”
If they wernt watching or unable to intervene at the time for whatever reason they can still act later to punish rule breaking retroactively as they did in the Bearspit incident. The fact they havnt (afaik) taken any punitive action against D indicates that what he did was within BB gameshow rules and ergo acceptable.
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“So it's ok to do that to mothers then”
“So it's ok to do that to mothers then”
No. But she isn't a 'girl' she's a grown ass woman. I'm tired of people reducing women to 'girl' as if they're not adults. She had the choice on whether or not to do it.
Bear was not given that option.
Originally Posted by Harry Redknapp:
“No. But she isn't a 'girl' she's a grown ass woman. I'm tired of people reducing women to 'girl' as if they're not adults. She had the choice on whether or not to do it.
Bear was not given that option.”
“No. But she isn't a 'girl' she's a grown ass woman. I'm tired of people reducing women to 'girl' as if they're not adults. She had the choice on whether or not to do it.
Bear was not given that option.”
Some people seem determined to see women as weak, helpless victims, regardless of the circumstances. It's really very odd and rather detrimental.
Originally Posted by Nearly New:
“I'm no Heavy D apologist but there is nothing to suggest he said that to Chloe other than people interpreting that from Chloe's demeanour last night on the LF. It may have been about sexual favours or it my have still been about the underwear.”
“I'm no Heavy D apologist but there is nothing to suggest he said that to Chloe other than people interpreting that from Chloe's demeanour last night on the LF. It may have been about sexual favours or it my have still been about the underwear.”
He did ask Chloe to give him a hand/blow job, we saw the HMs talking about it on LF. For some reason BB decided not to show it. He really is a gross individual. If he even had a shred of self respect, he would never have asked someone to hand wash his soiled pants, then enjoy sitting, watching and laughing as the water turned brown. He plays the affable, chump, but he has a nasty streak. Look how he turned on Lewis (his mate) over Bear's kissing comment. The biggest surprise was how dark he turned with Bear over the spoiled bed. Bear could see the menace and didn't even go there, he just walked away. Because of the way he has acted the 'Squad' have turned on him and he is now sitting like a lost soul, instead of a henchman. He is very lucky that the others are decent people. Ricky, James and Aubrey were more than kind and patient when they were talking to him about the way he has been acting.
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