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BBC Radio 1 loses a million listeners as Radio 4 hits new high
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Noxy
04-08-2016
Article here
CLL Dodge
04-08-2016
Hardly surprising.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuCY7ldETM8
Hitstastic
04-08-2016
Radio 1 declined years ago when Sara Cox became a DJ.

From her time presenting The Big Breakfast and when she took over from Zoe Ball to host the breakfast how, I only ever discovered what music she hated.

That's the problem with Radio 1. Now you get the likes of Nick Grimshaw and his playlist of ten songs he can't stand but can only play them instead of going against the playlist and play something he actually likes. Unless of course Nick Grimshaw just hates music in general.

Why would anyone want to be a DJ for Radio 1? It seems to be a Radio 1 DJ you must hate music. :/

I suppose we should be thankful we don't have TOTP anymore. Can you imagine Nick Grimshaw and Scott Mills looking awkwardly to the camera whilst doing the links. Ewww NOOOO!!!
Pepsii Cola
04-08-2016
Radio One's main issue is that its trying to be too cool for skool yet the likes of 1 Extra do it better.
DRAGON LANCE
04-08-2016
Radio 1 has been a joke for too long now. They have come in for repeated heavy criticism of their bland playlists consisting largely of bland major label pop and the worst dance music they can find, most of which is all played by commercial radio anyway. It’s pretty clear they just play what the majors and London clubs tell them to. Why should licence fee payers money be wasted on this?

It’s more the case everybody from Grimshaw to Scott Mills to Greg James to Annie Mac love the utter dogsh*t they play and can't stand it when they are forced to play anything resembling to decent tune. The only thing any of them love more is the sound of their own voices. None of them care about music at all and are just there for the pay check.

Grimshaw alone has lost them millions of listeners now. I don't know anybody that can stand him of any age. Yet Radio 1's controllers defend him to the max. When others have been sacked of losing a fraction of the listeners he has done it is beyond belief he still has a job. The fact that he also has flopped TV shows and his failed stint on X-Factor on his CV further smack home how nobody can stand him because he is CRAP.

When he first lost them 1 million listeners Radio 1 control expressed nothing but delight, saying it was exactly what they wanted because it was just older people over 30 who were switching off.

What's the excuse for the fact that he is also clearly haemorrhaging young listeners too now too? Most young people I encounter can't stand the crap they play. The whole station comes across like the kind of music somebody in their 40’s having a midlife crisis would listen to rather than something at the youth today want to hear.

Looking at that article they seem to be trying to claim the drop is because listening habits have changed and it doesn't include their online output. What a load of sh*te. Time to have a major rethink...of everything.
Thorney
04-08-2016
I agree with most of the above apart from your view on Annie Mac she is a proper Di and music lover yes she prefers dance music and grime etc but she still introduced me to great new music every week, she is no Zane Lowe but she does well,

One thing though Radio 1 play more rock and metal than any other mixed playlist station only Kerrang and Planet Rock play more , and I mean proper rock not what Absolute and Virgin play

Oh and confused about the 2nd last paragraph what should Radio 1 be playing then that is different from commercial stations and 1 Extra, tell me as a mid 40s Radio 1 listener

Like to hear your suggestions, something young people like but no other commercial station plays hmm good luck with that
SpaceToilets
04-08-2016
All my favourite DJs from Giles Peterson, Mary Anne Hobbs, Tim Westwood, John Peel (RIP), Chris Goldfinger, The Dreem Teem, Fabio and Grooverider to even Chris Moyles and Sara Cox are all gone. Apart from Pete Tong, Annie Mac and Annie Nightingale the old guard that I know are gone and none of the new DJs interest me.

They've always wanted to get the demographic down to a younger age and they've succeeded in that. The only issue is a large majority of the listeners were older. With the internet do kids even bother with the radio for music?
glyn9799
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by SpaceToilets:
“All my favourite DJs from Giles Peterson, Mary Anne Hobbs, Tim Westwood, John Peel (RIP), Chris Goldfinger, The Dreem Teem, Fabio and Grooverider to even Chris Moyles and Sara Cox are all gone. Apart from Pete Tong, Annie Mac and Annie Nightingale the old guard that I know are gone and none of the new DJs interest me.

They've always wanted to get the demographic down to a younger age and they've succeeded in that. The only issue is a large majority of the listeners were older. With the internet do kids even bother with the radio for music?”

This is my view on it too.

It makes me sad that a radio station I used to really enjoy listening to essentially forced me away by actively dumbing down their output.
Doghouse Riley
04-08-2016
In this day and age of so many choices of music from any number of sources, who wants to listen to someone else's music choices interspersed with banal chit chat?
Can't remember when I last listened to any music programme on any radio station.

Though I do have this running in the background if I'm on my computer.

http://www.radioswissjazz.ch/en
ritchie2yk
04-08-2016
I don't really have an issue with radio 1

My issue is with capital, I have had to listen to this all day at work today and they have literally just played the top 10 on loop, nothing over 1 year old, I have had to listen to Justin's tune, calvin and rihannas and drake and rihannas about 4 times each, and calum Scotts about 9 times so they clearly like that one

Are their ratings terrible, and if not, then why not !!!!
barbeler
04-08-2016
The problem with Radio 1 is that it has a policy of only playing what's supposedly currently 'popular' and unfortunately, what's currently 'popular' has less musical credibility than at any other time in history. It makes me shudder to think that it was only a public outcty that saved Radio 6 (or 6Music if you must). If that had failed there wouldn't have been any contemporary music worth listening to on BBC radio at all.
Hitstastic
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by DRAGON LANCE:
“When he first lost them 1 million listeners Radio 1 control expressed nothing but delight, saying it was exactly what they wanted because it was just older people over 30 who were switching off.”



I remember reading that at the time and I proper LOL'd at how ridiculous their statement was.

That's like me owning a company that makes a turnover of £5 million a year, and then the one year my company make a loss of -£80 million, I turn round and say "that's exactly what I wanted to happen".

What a load of bollards!!! lol
Hitstastic
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by SpaceToilets:
“All my favourite DJs from even Chris Moyles and Sara Cox are all gone”

What exactly was it about Chris Moyles and Sara Cox that you liked?

I thought Sara Cox was tragic, and then along came Moyles and it hit a whole new low for me.

Didn't help when Radio 1 drafted in JK & Joel to host The Official UK Top 40 Chat Show (yes, chat - it was never a chart show!!!)

I gave up on Radio 1 by 2005. In fact, the last time I actually listened to Radio 1 was to see if Spectrum by Florence & The Machine had made it to #1 as it had been close all week and I was rooting for the song to get to the top.

These days if I'm out driving and I do put the radio on, I tune into Tameside Radio.
Hitstastic
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by ritchie2yk:
“I don't really have an issue with radio 1

My issue is with capital, I have had to listen to this all day at work today and they have literally just played the top 10 on loop, nothing over 1 year old, I have had to listen to Justin's tune, calvin and rihannas and drake and rihannas about 4 times each, and calum Scotts about 9 times so they clearly like that one

Are their ratings terrible, and if not, then why not !!!!”

Probably because young people have short attention spans, so they hear a song and think "ohh I love this song by Calum Scott". Twenty minutes later they've forgotten about the song completely - possibly because they've been staring at their iPhones all that time. Forty minutes later it comes on again and those same people think "ohh I love this song by Calum Scott" and the cycle continues.
barbeler
05-08-2016
The highlight for me was when Mark & Lard were entrusted with the breakfast slot. It used to have me in stitches with how much truly filthy innuendo they managed to get away with before they were rumbled.
SpaceToilets
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by Hitstastic:
“What exactly was it about Chris Moyles and Sara Cox that you liked?

I thought Sara Cox was tragic, and then along came Moyles and it hit a whole new low for me.

Didn't help when Radio 1 drafted in JK & Joel to host The Official UK Top 40 Chat Show (yes, chat - it was never a chart show!!!)

I gave up on Radio 1 by 2005. In fact, the last time I actually listened to Radio 1 was to see if Spectrum by Florence & The Machine had made it to #1 as it had been close all week and I was rooting for the song to get to the top.

These days if I'm out driving and I do put the radio on, I tune into Tameside Radio. ”

Thanks for completely massacring my comment, but if you really need to know then I was one of the few who genuinely found Chris Moyles entertaining. As polarising as he was the whole two day broadcast proved that regardless of what you thought of the guy he was bloody good at his job. I can't name many other radio DJs who I think could broadcast non-stop for two days and still be consistently entertaining throughout.

Sara Cox was poor when she first started on Radio 1, but she got far better over time and became more comfortable in the job. To me she was genuinely funny.
SpaceToilets
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by barbeler:
“The highlight for me was when Mark & Lard were entrusted with the breakfast slot. It used to have me in stitches with how much truly filthy innuendo they managed to get away with before they were rumbled. ”

Oh how I miss them!
SpaceToilets
05-08-2016
Can I just add that I also miss Bobby Friction, Nihal, Chris Coco and Rob Da Bank. Thank you.
Noxy
05-08-2016
I've never liked Sara Cox, still don't. I stopped listening to Radio 1 when Mark Goodier left the Top 40 (I know, that's how old I am!)
ohglobbits
05-08-2016
Music now is either electro/dance which is KISS territory or slow insipid ballads which fit Radio 2 or Heart FM like a glove. The Bieber fans will probably be listening to Capital.
Edward Skylover
05-08-2016
Nick Grimshaw is crap at everything, particularly interviewing. If one of my favourite artists gets interviewed on Radio 1, I go away feeling like I've learned nothing. He's more interested in getting selfies with them too, rather than doing anything good for his listeners.
JohnStannard
05-08-2016
Grimmy's my fave DJ and I really enjoy him daily, I have an issue with radio 4 and Leeds because they are just all talk and no music
Noxy
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by JohnStannard:
“Grimmy's my fave DJ and I really enjoy him daily, I have an issue with radio 4 and Leeds because they are just all talk and no music”

Radio 4 has no music because it's a talk station.
Hitstastic
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by Noxy:
“Radio 4 has no music because it's a talk station. ”



That's like saying I don't like Radio 5 because they only talk about sport and don't play pop music.
Neil_N
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by Edward Skylover:
“Nick Grimshaw is crap at everything, particularly interviewing. If one of my favourite artists gets interviewed on Radio 1, I go away feeling like I've learned nothing. He's more interested in getting selfies with them too, rather than doing anything good for his listeners.”

Isn't Grimmy the most hated man in the UK after Nigel Farage, David Cameron and George Osborne?

As for Radio 1 - yeah, it's the too cool for school brigade, and the music industry nowadays is in a piss-poor state. Aside from the genuinely talented artists, it's the age of Instagram, Snapchat and 5 Minute Wonder acts.
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