I had R1 on today at work and it literally all sounded the same.

Twin Atlantic are rock but this single is s bit of a Janes Addiction copy still good though

I guess calling Blossoms indie is a bit of a stretch but in the same way Blur and Pulp were called indie so are blossoms I guess it is more guitar pop or new Britpop

I've never understood why someone with such a ridiculous pseudonym is taken so seriously...

I've always wondered why a public-funded broadcaster is so obsessed with audience demographics.

To a commercial broadcaster it makes sense as they have advertisers who might want to target a specific demographic but to Radio 1, or any other BBC radio station, it really shouldn't matter.

I've never forgiven 6 Music for sacking Bruce Dickinson so that Tom Ravenscroft (John Peel's son) could take his slot.

I find it ridiculous that a radio station that is supposed to be all about the music doesn't have a specialist Rock Show.

Mind you, compared to 10 years ago, 6 Music's output has become far more mainstream and it isn't as good as it was.

Mark Radcliffe in particular seems to have lost his edge. You get none of the really weird stuff that he used to find for his Out On Blue Six programme. Perhaps Lard was the true music connoisseur out of the two.

Well another politically topical comparison: Jeremy Corbyn has by all accounts grown the Labour party membership by a huge amount. Doesn't mean he will stand any chance what-so-ever of winning an election.

And so it is with Radio 6. Its not creating any stars, its not changing anything, its not getting the youth of the country to buy into any of the music it plays. Yes you had a daytime evening divide on Radio 1 in the past, but John Peel influenced young people to buy the records of artists he pushed, he made careers happen. I don't feel Radio 6 makes this happen. Its just the dead zone for people who feel they are too old for Radio 1 but too snobby for Radio 2. Radio 6 is for the most part all a bit yawn as far as I am concerned.

Oh and the point with that pointless question I mentioned was not so much that a Radio 6 DJ wouldn't know the intro to a Madonna song but that if they were confronted by something totally outside of their sphere they wouldn't have a clue either.

That said for all my putting down of Radio 6 I have always liked the Craig Charles Funk Show.

Even though I am a fan of 6 Muisc I do agree, the new additions to the playlist are getting very samey sort of Mercury Music Prize also rans soundalikes all the time. Also bands that Radio 1 used to play are now being moved their and sometimes they are the only songs with a bit of get up and go eg Catfish & The Bottlemen and Blossoms.

And Ratcliffe and Maconie are llke listening to two dads who are pretending to likw new music and just trying to sound with it but really theyd rather listen to 70s music and they are only ten years older than me.

6Music needs a revamp I feel as I agree it shoudl be a station for people like me but they play too much old stuff, most of it obscure and not that good, and not enough exciting new music. Best show is Shawn Keaveny as he doesnt try to be cool, hes not afraid to play oldies that hipsters would disapprove off and even plays a lot of dance and hip hop as well.

Lard certainly does. I've bought and downloaded tracks and albums by several people who he has played, who I had never previously heard of. Marissa Nadler, Richard Dawson, Explosions In The Sky, Kathryn Williams, to name just a few.

In the first half hour of his show so far Marc Riley has played new tracks by the artists Onmi, Terry, The Wytches and Gruff Rhys.

I think there are three reasons why bands aren't crossing over from the likes of 6 Music like they did in the old days.

1) as has been said these artists are not played by Radio One.
2) the end of Top Of The Pops - just look at the lack of Indie crossing over since its demise.
3) the way the charts are compiled. Indie music is about sales and the fans of groups like Teleman and Field Music are less likely to come home and stream the music. They will go to gigs more but that won't help them be chart acts.

And John Peel didn't influence the youth as much as he influenced the daytime DJs. It was the daytime DJs playing the likes of Bowie, T-Rex and Queen that made them household names. There are plenty of bands that Peel championed that remained an Indie stalwart that didn't affect the charts.

Because people were able to look beyond his stage name and realise he's a credible DJ?

Tom Ravenscroft started tonight's ptogramme with Paralyzed, by the Legendary Stardust Cowboy.

Respect.

The problem I have with 6 Music today, apart from the complete lack of a credible Rock Show, is that they play far too much hip hop and Dance music.

Radio 1 is over-loaded with dance music shows and 6 Music also has at least one dedicated dance music show. The BBC also has an entire radio station dedicated to hip hop and other derivatives in 1 Xtra.


However the whole concept of going to watch someone play records has passed me by as well...

I agree with that but it breaks the monotony of worthy hipster singer/songwriters and lofi americana which fills 6Musics playlists

Virgin Radio and some other stations had DJ Robin Banks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Banks

But not as silly as Nosmo King.

Where is former Radio 1 Controller Matthew Bannister when you need him lol


https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...nister-radio-1

Just caught some great stuff at the end of Marc Riley's programmes, but then thanks to Tom Ravenscroft for introducing me to the wonderful Polar Bear.

Happy For You by the British jazz/fusion band called Polar Bear.

It became really confusing because I came across another track on YouTube, called Bodybag. Bodybag by Polar Bear This is an American band formed by former Jane's Addiction bass player, Eric Avery. I like both bands.

To make things even better, the same YouTube search also led me to Polarbear, this time a 'spoken word artist' who shows up the vast majority of rappers as talentless, sweary nursery rhyme peddlars.

Jessica, by Polarbear

If Radio 1 is shedding the over 30's ( or 25's?) then whats happening at the other end of the spectrum, where are all the new younger listeners?

I agree that daytime radio has gone downhill. I think specialist radio with the likes of Annie Mac is still on form though. I've been listening to B. Traits over night, she plays Techno and House. LOVE her show!

A thought occurred to me. Should the playlists, especially on 6 Music, be for records the DJs wouldn't play anyway.

Let me explain - on the 6 Music A-List we have Metronomy and Massive Attack. Good records but I feel the daytime jocks would want to play them anyway. Would they play something off the Freakzone, some obscure dance, jazz or rock records. I am sure that there are good new records in all those genres but they get left off the playlist and they won't be picked by the daytime DJs.

Give them freeplays to promote the bands they like but have a more diverse and leftfield playlists of the ones they may not have otherwise played. The BBC has a diverse range of DJs across their stations that could help with this.

My actual preference would be to scrap the playlist and have truly eclectic DJs, like Gideon Coe who will happily play music from all genres on the daytime schedule.

Not listening to the radio.

I don't mind Radio 1 on in the car and I find some decent songs on there from time to time but I would much rather plug in my phone and play my own playlists from Spotify and I'm sure things like that contribute to falling listenership when they're targeting the younger demographic so exclusively.

It's an interesting idea. My main criticism of 6 Music is that the daytime playlist, and most of the non-playlist songs, are all singles. There is usually a featured album but they frequently play album tracks that were also released as singles. If the playlist was mostly made up of album tracks that were not promoted as singles, and the oldies were non-chart songs, it would be closer to the station's remit as a celebration of alternative music.