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Old 30-08-2016, 18:14
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I am excited for this cast TBH.

Guaranteed Ryan dances last on Week 1.

He did something moronic. Hope he can regain some respect after so badly screwing up.
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Old 30-08-2016, 18:51
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I'd love to know whether, when pros like Artem and Emma were offered jobs, they made it clear they would always be third tier pros or whether they promised the earth 😏 .

Setting the feelings and egos of the pros aside - and more importantly - I think the loaded system robs the viewer of interest and variety.
I imagine they were promised the earth, yet despite being 3rd tier they must still be happy to have such great pay/visibility as a pro ballroom dancer.

What IS PureDWTS' problem with Val?! Every post they've uploaded today is snarking about him in some way.
For some reason the super Derek Hough fans who have found each other there seem to need a villain as a counterpart to their hero. Sometimes I think it's just typical fanwarz, and sometimes I think it has an icky xenophobic undercurrent. Derek is the all American Mormon blond perfect son-in-law type who knows how to play the reality show game, the C bros are East coast inner city immigrants with overt sex appeal who don't quite know how to play the game. In any case, the hate goes back a long time--way before Val joined the show.
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Old 30-08-2016, 18:56
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This could be an interesting series-except for the fact that Laurie/Val are clear winners, the rest seems quite open and it will be up to how well the pros manage the partnerships and how well the stars endear themselves to the voting audience.

(Sorry for the double post.)
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Old 30-08-2016, 19:03
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Derek has finally got a duffer
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Old 30-08-2016, 19:06
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Derek has finally got a duffer
I don't think she'll be a duffer, as she danced when she was young, but she probably isn't winning material.
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Old 30-08-2016, 19:06
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Pretty good cast, I quite like Marilu, Vanilla Ice and Maureen, plus I've always had a soft spot for Amber Rose (who I'm quite surprised DWTS have managed to get, I mean you only have to look at all the showbiz sites yesterday, it was all about her at VMA's)

Excited to see Jana as well! I quite like Jake, but that's my shallowness coming out to play there...
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Old 30-08-2016, 19:09
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I don't think she'll be a duffer, as she danced when she was young, but she probably isn't winning material.
how far do you think she'll get roughly?
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Old 30-08-2016, 19:13
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how far do you think she'll get roughly?
Perhaps a run through to Week 7 or Week 8.
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Old 30-08-2016, 19:18
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yeah bet Vanilla Ice is good
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Old 30-08-2016, 19:19
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Here for Amber Rose, who is an impressively current signing for the show, but I feel a bit jaded as a whole.

There's no Patti/Chaka showbiz legend in the cast, which is disappointing.
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Old 30-08-2016, 19:40
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Quite a simplistic cast, few characters which could prove interesting. Vanilla Ice seems a bit of a deadwood signing though

I agree with OP above re Amber. She's a decent signing and definitely my favourite on paper I can see her being a surprise in ballroom.
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Old 30-08-2016, 20:04
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how far do you think she'll get roughly?
This is Derek, who got Jennifer Gray (10 years younger at time of competing, but with so many injuries) to become the oldest champion in the history of the show. I would not rule out them making the final. I don't think he'd have come back on the show unless he was satisfied he had at least a chance with Marilu!

In other news, I love Emma, but there needs to be a mercy killing elimination to free her from Rick!

I really don't know who I'd say is my favourite yet, especially with obvious favourite Ryan the most likely to do well but be hindered by the public perception. I think my dark horse is Babyface and Allison! I reckon they could win this...
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Old 30-08-2016, 20:14
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Derek has finally got a duffer
She had her first dance class age 2 and started teaching in her parents' dance studios at 14. She says she never danced ballroom.

If a slightly overweight Pamela Stevenson can get to the Strictly final aged 60, I would think Marilu stands a chance - especially with Derek. She also has an amazing memory apparently (perfect recall), so she might have a basic learning advantage (or she might alienate people by being a smartarse ).

I've no idea if she's danced in the last 40 years or even physically fit, so probably not a ringer, but she's no duffer.
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Old 30-08-2016, 20:28
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This cast is VERY, very interesting; too many potential; too many. One of the best cast in years. Sigh....I will probably tune in this year to watch the show . I honestly think that there will be a lot of unexpected surprises.

I love how everyone assumes that Derek has finally a duffer because that woman is the oldest celebrity he ever Had. Hilarious. She has some kind of dance experience apparently and imo she looks AMAZING for her age.
Also a lot of people assume that Val and Laurie may have it in the bag but after seeing the rest of the cast I dont think so; especially since a lot of the celebrities they have play right into DWTS demo.

My only certainty now is that Derek will make the finale; I can bet on this. I am like 98% sure of this


Ryan Lochte couldnt have had a more perfect pro in Cheryl; Glad that she came back for that job. She knows what to do, what to say, how to pace her celebrity, how to coach them mentally for this; she is very cunning ...not necesarily a bad thing but she is a PRO at this DWTS/celebrity malarkey. That's why Wade brought her back especially for Ryan IMO; She is the female Derek. Ryan really lucked out with her;
With any of the other pro girls, he would have been out in the first few weeks
. If anyone can work miracles and make America fall in love with Ryan again, its HER.

Hmmm....I like Ryan , yes I know what he did; but that's Ryan for you. I like Laurie but I hate that she has Val.

Oh and my favourite couple is Ryan and Cheryl, He always gets himself into stupid/crazy stuff; trust me this Brazil incident is not the only major incident he had. I have always had a soft spot him. He really does mean well; he is honestly not a bad guy but he is just not very bright sometimes....sigh....I think that he will pleasantly surprise people and I am ecstatic that he has Cheryl; she is the perfect pro for him.
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Old 30-08-2016, 21:03
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I think Rick should be voted off first. Poor Emma, what's she done to the producers?
Lindsay gets Alek to the finals and gets Wanya the following season as a reward.
Emma's reward for getting Bill Engvall to the final? Billy Dee Williams.
Says it all. She should have came over to SCD this year. I wouldn't have minded her bringing Sasha over either.
Emma with Will and Sasha with Claudia. That would be fantastic.
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Old 30-08-2016, 21:04
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This cast is VERY, very interesting; too many potential; too many. One of the best cast in years. Sigh....I will probably tune in this year to watch the show . I honestly think that there will be a lot of unexpected surprises.

I love how everyone assumes that Derek has finally a duffer because that woman is the oldest celebrity he ever Had. Hilarious. She has some kind of dance experience apparently and imo she looks AMAZING for her age.
Also a lot of people assume that Val and Laurie may have it in the bag but after seeing the rest of the cast I dont think so; especially since a lot of the celebrities they have play right into DWTS demo.

My only certainty now is that Derek will make the finale; I can bet on this. I am like 98% sure of this


Ryan Lochte couldnt have had a more perfect pro in Cheryl; Glad that she came back for that job. She knows what to do, what to say, how to pace her celebrity, how to coach them mentally for this; she is very cunning ...not necesarily a bad thing but she is a PRO at this DWTS/celebrity malarkey. That's why Wade brought her back especially for Ryan IMO; She is the female Derek. Ryan really lucked out with her;
With any of the other pro girls, he would have been out in the first few weeks
. If anyone can work miracles and make America fall in love with Ryan again, its HER.

Hmmm....I like Ryan , yes I know what he did; but that's Ryan for you. I like Laurie but I hate that she has Val.

Oh and my favourite couple is Ryan and Cheryl, He always gets himself into stupid/crazy stuff; trust me this Brazil incident is not the only major incident he had. I have always had a soft spot him. He really does mean well; he is honestly not a bad guy but he is just not very bright sometimes....sigh....I think that he will pleasantly surprise people and I am ecstatic that he has Cheryl; she is the perfect pro for him.
Agree, hope Ryan dances well.

I think he's paid enough.

Producers putting on Rick Perry who will also be fun will divert away more hate for him appearing on the show
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Old 30-08-2016, 22:41
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This cast is VERY, very interesting; too many potential; too many. One of the best cast in years. Sigh....I will probably tune in this year to watch the show . I honestly think that there will be a lot of unexpected surprises.

I love how everyone assumes that Derek has finally a duffer because that woman is the oldest celebrity he ever Had. Hilarious. She has some kind of dance experience apparently and imo she looks AMAZING for her age.
Also a lot of people assume that Val and Laurie may have it in the bag but after seeing the rest of the cast I dont think so; especially since a lot of the celebrities they have play right into DWTS demo.

My only certainty now is that Derek will make the finale; I can bet on this. I am like 98% sure of this


Ryan Lochte couldnt have had a more perfect pro in Cheryl; Glad that she came back for that job. She knows what to do, what to say, how to pace her celebrity, how to coach them mentally for this; she is very cunning ...not necesarily a bad thing but she is a PRO at this DWTS/celebrity malarkey. That's why Wade brought her back especially for Ryan IMO; She is the female Derek. Ryan really lucked out with her;
With any of the other pro girls, he would have been out in the first few weeks
. If anyone can work miracles and make America fall in love with Ryan again, its HER.

Hmmm....I like Ryan , yes I know what he did; but that's Ryan for you. I like Laurie but I hate that she has Val.

Oh and my favourite couple is Ryan and Cheryl, He always gets himself into stupid/crazy stuff; trust me this Brazil incident is not the only major incident he had. I have always had a soft spot him. He really does mean well; he is honestly not a bad guy but he is just not very bright sometimes....sigh....I think that he will pleasantly surprise people and I am ecstatic that he has Cheryl; she is the perfect pro for him.
How can you say BIB about Derek reaching the final? He's my fave pro but he doesn't stand a chance of the final this year
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Old 30-08-2016, 23:24
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How can you say BIB about Derek reaching the final? He's my fave pro but he doesn't stand a chance of the final this year
Derek knows how to get the final
he know what works on dwts
he is very talented
He is very popular
she is well known and popular
She has some dance training
She looks amazing

Yes he doesn't have a favourite (he didn't when he had Ricky or Kellie either) but he has a good chance as it is very open field actually think Artem may have a chance too except Artem is not as popular as Derek but I think he and Maureen will go a long way reminds me on Lea (who were extremely popular with voters until tptb and judges started derailing their chances)

Thinks it's an interesting cast think it will work well and will be a great season but you can never tell until they dances and will miss Mark

Ryan is lucky to get Cheryl otherwise he would definitely be out week 1 now he at least has a chance to get to week 2
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Old 30-08-2016, 23:40
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Agree, hope Ryan dances well.

I think he's paid enough.

Producers putting on Rick Perry who will also be fun will divert away more hate for him appearing on the show
I haven't voted on this show in years but I'll be throwing my votes to Ryan and Cheryl every week lol. Oh good point about Rick. ..didn't even think about that.

How can you say BIB about Derek reaching the final? He's my fave pro but he doesn't stand a chance of the final this year
Everything kpni said . Couldn't have said it better, also she plays right into the demo of this show. . He Will make the finale. The lowest placement he had in seasons was 4th place and that was only because people didn't like Nastia and Maria Menounos that much . The only reason they made it that far was because of him; when you get him, you have a guarantee of making the finale, other pros don't have that.
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Old 31-08-2016, 00:41
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Derek and his partner Shannon Elizabeth finished in 6th place in Season 6 (2008) - which is the worst he's done.
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Old 31-08-2016, 01:14
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Derek and his partner Shannon Elizabeth finished in 6th place in Season 6 (2008) - which is the worst he's done.
You're right but Derek let his heart rule his head on that occasion and lost his cool over Len's critique. He wasn't quite the golden boy he is now then, it was capture in the backstage confessionals (which I miss them; you know the honest and backstage vts not the staged rubbish you get now) and it added drama and showed passion and all the other blah blahs that the producers love to boost column inches and ratings. Ever since no matter what the criticism Derek stands there like the Churchill dog and doesn't say a word he has learned that it is better to take the criticism on the chin and let your fans complain rather than you complain yourself smart guy!

I don't know if they will get to the final, depends how good the competition is, but with Derek as your pro you have better chances than most.
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Old 31-08-2016, 05:13
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I actually liked Derek back then but now he's Clouseau to my Detective Inspector Dreyfus - I start twitching if I catch a glimpse of him

I can't believe they left in one of Shannon Elizabeth's comments that season - she was annoyed with Derek and told him he wasn't getting any that night. Ewww - She also pi$$ed off the costume designer by refusing to wear a salsa dress he made for her and she ended up looking like a banana or something - oh now I can't remember, but she looked awful and the dance sucked - she really was a jerk (and Derek was too, like you said - that was the season he complained on camera of another celebrity's "demented lines" because he was so furious at the judges' comments toward Shannon.)

Anyway, you're so right - DWTS was a much better show years ago - much less manipulated and more honesty about it. Now it's a travesty imo, with 20 second dances, strobe lights, and 5 extra pros in every number - along with Ninja turtles or whatever - well, so I'm told...

But back to the topic! They prop Derek as far as possible, even if the dances don't deserve the scores imo -- it'll be interesting if anybody gets peeved this season. A year or two back, Mark's mother Shirley was on the Afterbuzz talk show with Kristyn Burtt and she said that the judges were biased towards the blond haired one and gave him better scores than her more deserving son - I bet she's enraged about Mark being bumped after he said he was looking forward to this season.
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Old 31-08-2016, 08:07
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Derek and his partner Shannon Elizabeth finished in 6th place in Season 6 (2008) - which is the worst he's done.
I know that but that was yearsssss ago, way before he got the huge following that he has. Since then, his worst finishing has been 4th place. He'll get that woman in the finale lol.
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Old 31-08-2016, 11:41
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A year or two back, Mark's mother Shirley was on the Afterbuzz talk show with Kristyn Burtt and she said that the judges were biased towards the blond haired one and gave him better scores than her more deserving son - I bet she's enraged about Mark being bumped after he said he was looking forward to this season.
Shirley has to one of the most abrasive and aggressively shrill woman I have ever seen.
Her appearance on Afterbuzz revealed so much. Perhaps she had to overcompensate over the years, raising two outsiders (both of which more able than Mark) but the way she championed Marks every move was really unpleasant. Probably helps explain why he can't take any criticism, he isn't used to it.

Anyway. I'm all for Derek getting the best treatment. He's the best dancer and choreographer, so a TV show has to take advantage of that.
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Old 31-08-2016, 20:14
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I know how DWTS works and he's my fave but I'm not convinced
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