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Why should Chloe have to pander to Heavy's delusions ?
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hisdogspot
04-08-2016
In the bedroom Siara was telling her that she 'knows' how Heavy feels about her ... as if Chloe is meant to adapt her behaviour in order to placate a man's temper !
gcmac
04-08-2016
I don't think Chloe or Bear did anything wrong in the way that they don't have to get permission from Renee or Heavy to kiss someone. She is no loyalty to Heavy and he was horrible to her in the task and referred to her as 'that' the other day. No wonder she thought he was joking about liking her.
Glinny
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by hisdogspot:
“In the bedroom Siara was telling her that she 'knows' how Heavy feels about her ... as if Chloe is meant to adapt her behaviour in order to placate a man's temper !”

Chloe is no innocent. Of course she knows exactly how Heavy D feels about her.

I'm not a Saira fan but i do agree with her.

During the task Chloe standing there with her nipples out. She saw the reaction from Heavy D.

Chloe knows the score.
elfstar89
04-08-2016
I don't think she should have to pander, but she should not play the innocent game as if she was naive. She lied to the group when she said it was just a dare and then there is the whole single/not single business. Just say Heavy I'm not attracted to you and my guy on the outside is a sugar daddy so if I'm hot for Bear I won't really be in that much trouble for making out. Plus her and Bear were talking about the bed situation before going in so she knew there was a possibility he had been bothered. Again, not her fault if he is bothered but when Bear has to make a scene in front of everyone with the rose and then standing over him, don't pretend like Heavy being annoyed is coming out of left field. Anyway Bear is the worst one in the whole situation. He deffo wanted there to be drama.
Chris_P_White
04-08-2016
I agree - Chloe isn't responsible for how Heavy D feels about her or his resulting hissy fit when he realises she doesn't feel the same way and it's not up to her to change his behaviour - that's his responsibility.
kandi_kane
04-08-2016
Absolutely ridiculous from those who think Bear and chloe had no right to kiss. They are two adults, have no allegiance to anyone in that house, and if they want to kiss it's nobody's business but theirs. Chloe has made it clear she does not fancy Heavy D so why shouldn't she cop off with someone she does fancy? Renee is really pissing me off too!
Rhumbatugger
04-08-2016
She shouldn't.

And NOONE should expect her to.
GordonGordon
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by Glinny:
“Chloe is no innocent. Of course she knows exactly how Heavy D feels about her.

I'm not a Saira fan but i do agree with her.

During the task Chloe standing there with her nipples out. She saw the reaction from Heavy D.

Chloe knows the score.”

That's not fair on her though. As she said, she's done nothing to lead Boom on and is confused as to why he seems to think she's led him on. Before this they were quite good friends but Boom took it to another level of deludedness and began to try and court her.

Chloe owes Boom nothing.
JamesLaFleur
04-08-2016
She should have told him in a nice way that there was no chance of them getting together. She probably liked the attention until he was disgusting and made her clean his undies.
Remma
04-08-2016
But Heavy D and Renee called dibs. Apparently that's a thing now.
hisdogspot
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by Glinny:
“Chloe is no innocent. Of course she knows exactly how Heavy D feels about her.

I'm not a Saira fan but i do agree with her.

During the task Chloe standing there with her nipples out. She saw the reaction from Heavy D.

Chloe knows the score.”

That's the point I'm making .... why shouldn't she stand there with her nipples out if that's her choice ?

Why should Heavy D's 'reactions' dictate how she behaves ?
Eve Elle
04-08-2016
It's not that easy to tell someone you're not interested. People don't always take rejection well and you don't want to hurt people. It's very human to simply avoid being straight with someone for lots of reasons. However I think Chloe did know what she was doing, she seemed to enjoy it in a way?
Chris_P_White
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by JamesLaFleur:
“She should have told him in a nice way that there was no chance of them getting together. She probably liked the attention until he was disgusting and made her clean his undies.”

She didn't know if he was joking or not though - and, to be fair, how could she? He's behaved appallingly towards her at times, hardly wooing behaviour....more like a seven year old pigtail pulling oik.
Aura101
04-08-2016
i agree, i found Heavy and Renee's behaviour abit odd to be honest.
willywonker
04-08-2016
Perhaps Chloe should bow down to some HMs views and some of the views on here and just give Heavy D what he want's after all she has no say in it does she.
Rhumbatugger
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by Aura101:
“i agree, i found Heavy and Renee's behaviour abit odd to be honest.”

Oddly immature.

And Saira seems to think that you have to pussy foot around men who 'like' you.
hisdogspot
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by Aura101:
“i agree, i found Heavy and Renee's behaviour abit odd to be honest.”


I think Heavy D's focus on Chloe is an oppressive force on her in the house

She does not welcome his attention ... she does not want his attention, and yet she seems to be expected by others in the house to adapt her behaviour in order to keep him happy

I think that's outrageous
ForGodsSake
04-08-2016
No, she doesn't owe Boom anything, however, anyone with even a tiny shred of decency wouldnt flaunt it in front of someone that they knew liked them.

Bear did it on purpose.
You could tell that by the way he sat and put his foot on Booms bed.
Unfortunately, Boom had had enough.

I did notice that no-one apart from tweedle dee and dum asked if Bear was okay.

They all think he's a massive jerk.

I'm with Saira on this one.
chameleon212
04-08-2016
I think Renee and Saira are jealous of Chloe's natural beauty and are trying to find ways to spite her.

Their arguments made absolutely no sense and seemed somewhat forced, as if they were desperate to find some kind of fault in her behaviour.

The fact is Chloe has done nothing wrong, she has been the victim of 2 very immature boys with boundary issues.

But as usual, young attractive female gets blamed for everything.
ForGodsSake
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Oddly immature.

And Saira seems to think that you have to pussy foot around men who 'like' you.”

I just think she meant dont throw it in Booms face.
Bear and Boom were mates.

It aint done where i come from.
dannyboy22
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by ForGodsSake:
“No, she doesn't owe Boom anything, however, anyone with even a tiny shred of decency wouldnt flaunt it in front of someone that they knew liked them.

Bear did it on purpose.
You could tell that by the way he sat and put his foot on Booms bed.
Unfortunately, Boom had had enough.

I did notice that no-one apart from tweedle dee and dum asked if Bear was okay.

They all think he's a massive jerk.

I'm with Saira on this one.”


This is the way I see it to Bear was taking great pleaser rubbing it in.

So glad he ended up looking like a little boy by the end of the show
Rhumbatugger
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by hisdogspot:
“I think Heavy D's focus on Chloe is an oppressive force on her in the house

She does not welcome his attention ... she does not want his attention, and yet she seems to be expected by others in the house to adapt her behaviour in order to keep him happy

I think that's outrageous”

Me too.

She's the WRONG target. It's BEAR who was trying to wind Heavy up all night. And he's supposed to be his FRIEND.

Chloe hates Boom, with GOOD reasons.
Miss.D
04-08-2016
I don't think she owes him anything and she never led him on at all. After the way he treated her in the task and calling her 'that', she had even more reason to not care about his feelings.

However, Bear - he is the massive culprit here, and I think he knew exactly what he was doing, he probably does not even like Chloe, but used her as a pawn in his game. He was definitely trying to wind up Heavy D, it was so obvious.
Rhumbatugger
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by ForGodsSake:
“I just think she meant dont throw it in Booms face.
Bear and Boom were mates.

It aint done where i come from.”

Boom wants her, insulted her, and made her wash his underwear. I don't really blame her for 'throwing it in his face'.

I do blame her for her appalling taste and her silliness, but she seriously owes Boom a kick in the arse.
Makson
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by hisdogspot:
“I think Heavy D's focus on Chloe is an oppressive force on her in the house

She does not welcome his attention ... she does not want his attention, and yet she seems to be expected by others in the house to adapt her behaviour in order to keep him happy

I think that's outrageous”

I couldn't agree more.

Dare I say there are sadly some elements of misogyny showing in this situation too where the woman should feel flattered and honoured that a man has shown an interest in her, and in return be under some sort of obligation to him even when she clearly states she isn't interested. Funny to think if the genders were reversed in the Heavy/Chloe situation, everyone would be branding Heavy a "bunny boiler" right now.
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