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Old 04-08-2016, 22:47
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This is the way I see it to Bear was taking great pleaser rubbing it in.

So glad he ended up looking like a little boy by the end of the show
The BB Security Guard was a moment of absolute class
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Old 04-08-2016, 22:47
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It's ridiculous. Chloe owes Heavy nothing. What Renee and Saira were saying was awful. Why should she have to change her behaviour to placate a grown man? I think she genuinely believed that him fancying her was a joke.
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Old 04-08-2016, 22:48
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I don't think she owes him anything and she never led him on at all. After the way he treated her in the task and calling her 'that', she had even more reason to not care about his feelings.

However, Bear - he is the massive culprit here, and I think he knew exactly what he was doing, he probably does not even like Chloe, but used her as a pawn in his game. He was definitely trying to wind up Heavy D, it was so obvious.
The whole evening was about winding Heavy up. Lewis, Marnie and Bear were really going for it. They even dared Katie to flick him with a towel.

Bear was ENJOYING himself.
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Old 04-08-2016, 22:48
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That's not fair on her though. As she said, she's done nothing to lead Boom on and is confused as to why he seems to think she's led him on. Before this they were quite good friends but Boom took it to another level of deludedness and began to try and court her.

Chloe owes Boom nothing.
We do not actually know what has gone on. However I agree that Bear is a prat and Boom is deluded
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Old 04-08-2016, 22:48
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I don't think she owes him anything and she never led him on at all. After the way he treated her in the task and calling her 'that', she had even more reason to not care about his feelings.

However, Bear - he is the massive culprit here, and I think he knew exactly what he was doing, he probably does not even like Chloe, but used her as a pawn in his game. He was definitely trying to wind up Heavy D, it was so obvious.
Totally agree.

Chloe doesn't owe him anything at all given his perverted behaviour
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Old 04-08-2016, 22:49
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Chloe is a tease ...end of , that's how she's made her living
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Old 04-08-2016, 22:50
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Boom wants her, insulted her, and made her wash his underwear. I don't really blame her for 'throwing it in his face'.

I do blame her for her appalling taste and her silliness, but she seriously owes Boom a kick in the arse.
I'd have said 'nuts' but.....hey ho
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Old 04-08-2016, 22:52
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I couldn't agree more.

Dare I say there are sadly some elements of misogyny showing in this situation too where the woman should feel flattered and honoured that a man has shown an interest in her, and in return be under some sort of obligation to him even when she clearly states she isn't interested. Funny to think if the genders were reversed in the Heavy/Chloe situation, everyone would be branding Heavy a "bunny boiler" right now.
The funny thing is, we are seeing it both ways - Renee seems to think she has 'dibs' on Bear and the others feel warned off because of this, Chloe even said this and apologised to Renee as if she owed her something. It's truly odd!

Chloe is a tease ...end of , that's how she's made her living
I really don't see that, with regard to Heavy D - she's made it clear from the start she's not interested. He said that she said she may be single when they first met and that he took that as a green light. When was saying you're single ever mistaken for 'I'm yours, take me now'

She's made it perfectly clear, to me at least watching the highlights and live feed, that she is not and never was interested in him.

When has she teased him?
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Old 04-08-2016, 22:52
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She should not pander to Heavy at all its not her fault and why didn't someone have a word with Heavy to say he has no chance.

If anyone should share some blame its Bear and Lewis they spent several days encouraging Heavy and lying to him about his chances. Literally saying 'I think Chloe likes you'. Bear and Lewis = idiots
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Old 04-08-2016, 22:54
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It's pissing me off so much that no one has the balls to defend her
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Old 04-08-2016, 22:54
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The whole evening was about winding Heavy up. Lewis, Marnie and Bear were really going for it. They even dared Katie to flick him with a towel.

Bear was ENJOYING himself.

Definitely. Lewis said he needed a new target, and he found one. I dislike those three, I really do.

I think Bear thrives on confrontation - as long as it is not a huge security guard.
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Old 04-08-2016, 22:55
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I will start by saying that I hate all that bullshit 'women have to watch what they do because men can't control themselves' schtick. But unfortunately you have someone in there (Heavy D) that doesn't understand boundaries. I know someone like him in that respect. He used to overstep the mark by slapping friends of mine on the arse and trying to lift them up all the time. One friend made the mistake of going to group salsa dancing with him as a friend and he took that as a green light to touch her boob! He got fixated with another (very gobby!) friend and used to take her screaming at him to '**** off and leave her alone' as 'playing hard to get' and also 'being passionate!'. I escaped all the creepy bullshit because the first time I saw him slap someone on the arse I (very calmly and firmly) told him that under no circumstances was he ever to place one finger on me. Not even to shake my hand. And if he ever did then I would punch him so hard in the face that he would swallow at least 2 teeth. And it registered with him! But yeah, there are certain blokes that you have to really spell it out to that they have no chance and they are to leave you alone. And then you do not give blur boundaries and mix messages if you want to have an easy time and not have them bothering you! Heavy is one of those blokes. It sucks but it was obvious that Bear was using Chloe to get back at Heavy D for the previous argument and Chloe (I suspect) was using Bear to get rid of Heavy's interest but it doesn't really work with delusional people like that because they cannot take a hint!
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Old 04-08-2016, 22:55
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I agree - Chloe isn't responsible for how Heavy D feels about her or his resulting hissy fit when he realises she doesn't feel the same way and it's not up to her to change his behaviour - that's his responsibility.
Heavy d...(name already taken by late us rapper) rip. Why is this 43 yr old man bothering a 24 yr old girl anyway.. creep.
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Old 04-08-2016, 23:00
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What exactly has Chloe done to tease Heavy D?


Chloe is a tease ...end of , that's how she's made her living
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Old 04-08-2016, 23:00
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Heavy d...(name already taken by late us rapper) rip. Why is this 43 yr old man bothering a 24 yr old girl anyway.. creep.
Well I think it's been hinted at in the show that he's never been with a girl and that he's got next to zero experience, he seems to have some delay or issues processing things and seems quite childlike in some ways.
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Old 04-08-2016, 23:04
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Can somebody clarify for me if Chloe has a boyfriend or not. One minute she said she hasn't then tonight Renee said 'How would your boyfriend feel about that'. Meaning Chloe snogging Bear. I'm confused.
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Old 04-08-2016, 23:05
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Well I think it's been hinted at in the show that he's never been with a girl and that he's got next to zero experience, he seems to have some delay or issues processing things and seems quite childlike in some ways.
Well he should get a prostitute then, and leave the 24 yr young mother alone, she should stay away from him.
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Old 04-08-2016, 23:09
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Bear made it clear he was hoping to get off with Marnie yet no one is suggesting that Marnie should stop with Lewis because it's disrespectful to Bear. Why is Chloe getting stick?

I'm not gone on Bear, Lewis, Marnie or Heavy D. Wish they'd just get rid. I don't want to see 'kissing for camera time' rubbish. I was hoping Chloe might turn out to be interesting but she seems as simple as the other lot

Where is Ricky? It's getting a bit ridiculous now like he's not even in there.
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Old 04-08-2016, 23:10
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I think Renee and Saira are jealous of Chloe's natural beauty and are trying to find ways to spite her.

Their arguments made absolutely no sense and seemed somewhat forced, as if they were desperate to find some kind of fault in her behaviour.

The fact is Chloe has done nothing wrong, she has been the victim of 2 very immature boys with boundary issues.

But as usual, young attractive female gets blamed for everything.
There's nothing natural about her appearance.
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Old 04-08-2016, 23:10
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Chloe is a tease ...end of , that's how she's made her living
Nonsense
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Old 04-08-2016, 23:13
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I will start by saying that I hate all that bullshit 'women have to watch what they do because men can't control themselves' schtick. But unfortunately you have someone in there (Heavy D) that doesn't understand boundaries. I know someone like him in that respect. He used to overstep the mark by slapping friends of mine on the arse and trying to lift them up all the time. One friend made the mistake of going to group salsa dancing with him as a friend and he took that as a green light to touch her boob! He got fixated with another (very gobby!) friend and used to take her screaming at him to '**** off and leave her alone' as 'playing hard to get' and also 'being passionate!'. I escaped all the creepy bullshit because the first time I saw him slap someone on the arse I (very calmly and firmly) told him that under no circumstances was he ever to place one finger on me. Not even to shake my hand. And if he ever did then I would punch him so hard in the face that he would swallow at least 2 teeth. And it registered with him! But yeah, there are certain blokes that you have to really spell it out to that they have no chance and they are to leave you alone. And then you do not give blur boundaries and mix messages if you want to have an easy time and not have them bothering you! Heavy is one of those blokes. It sucks but it was obvious that Bear was using Chloe to get back at Heavy D for the previous argument and Chloe (I suspect) was using Bear to get rid of Heavy's interest but it doesn't really work with delusional people like that because they cannot take a hint!

That is very true, I completely agree.

And well done for doing that, although it is sad that you had to get aggressive for him to take a hint. That happened to me at work recently, and it was not a pleasant experience saying no to a person who did not listen. Yet, when you mention it to another person, their first question is: 'Did you make him think he had a chance?' Why does Chloe , or any woman have to keep justifying it time and time again? Honestly.
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Old 04-08-2016, 23:18
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It's pissing me off so much that no one has the balls to defend her
Me too Lewi

When they were 'explaining' her obligations to the 43 year old simpleton who has an unhealthy obsession with her, I was half expecting them to tell her she actually has a duty to "f*** the fat one" !
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Old 04-08-2016, 23:21
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I think Heavy D's focus on Chloe is an oppressive force on her in the house

She does not welcome his attention ... she does not want his attention, and yet she seems to be expected by others in the house to adapt her behaviour in order to keep him happy

I think that's outrageous
I do too. They shouldn't put people who are mentally subnormal in the house. Heavy D is like a toddler in a man's body. And Rennee isn't much better. How to humiliate yourself on national TV......
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Old 04-08-2016, 23:26
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That is very true, I completely agree.

And well done for doing that, although it is sad that you had to get aggressive for him to take a hint. That happened to me at work recently, and it was not a pleasant experience saying no to a person who did not listen. Yet, when you mention it to another person, their first question is: 'Did you make him think he had a chance?' Why does Chloe , or any woman have to keep justifying it time and time again? Honestly.
Yeah, sadly the attitude that somehow the female must surely have invited the unwanted attention. it sucks that you had to deal with that. Thankfully its been years since I've had to deal with crap like that but I'm always sure to put people straight if I hear them suggest anything remotely 'victim blaming'! Don't let it get you down too much - people can be idiots!
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Old 04-08-2016, 23:30
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Well he should get a prostitute then, and leave the 24 yr young mother alone, she should stay away from him.
That's another thing, tonight was the first time a child was mentioned as far as I can tell - even some of the housemates were surprised!
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