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Why should Chloe have to pander to Heavy's delusions ?
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Chris_P_White
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by chloeb:
“Chloe is a tease ...end of , that's how she's made her living”

Wooooo...... so you're saying a carpenter has to repair everyone's shelves just because that's how they earn their living? Or a baker has to make everyone's cakes all the time because that's what pays their wages? A woman who is employed to make men feel better about themselves has to put out - in her real life - regardless, just because she's paid to 'tease' them?

God, we'd all be at work 24/7 with that line of thinking....
Miss.D
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by Little Leigh:
“Yeah, sadly the attitude that somehow the female must surely have invited the unwanted attention. it sucks that you had to deal with that. Thankfully its been years since I've had to deal with crap like that but I'm always sure to put people straight if I hear them suggest anything remotely 'victim blaming'! Don't let it get you down too much - people can be idiots!”

Good for you. And thanks, I may take a leaf out of your book next time
boddism
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by ForGodsSake:
“I just think she meant dont throw it in Booms face.
Bear and Boom were mates.

It aint done where i come from.”

Bear & Boom have known each other for what, 5 days? Since when are they "mates"?

Heavy D is acting like a child & so is Renee. Both Bear & Chloe are adults and neither have any obligations to either get with someone who fancies them if they don't fancy them back, or behave carefully around others.
WTF! she is not Boom's PROPERTY- we're in an era if massive interest in feminism & yet a young woman is meant to "control" herself because a man 20 yrs older than her wants to screw her!! What is going on here.

Not that I'm a fan of Chloe or Bear- they're both idiots. Chloe is a young,frivolous good looking but thick woman & she's gonna want to go with a young frivolous, good looking thick man. That's only to be expected.

The middle aged letches need to get a reality check & grow up!

Renee is being a female equivalent of Grant Bkvey, latching over someone 20yrs younger than her. We regard Boveh as a creep, but what about the other 2?
boddism
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by Little Leigh:
“I will start by saying that I hate all that bullshit 'women have to watch what they do because men can't control themselves' schtick. But unfortunately you have someone in there (Heavy D) that doesn't understand boundaries. I know someone like him in that respect. He used to overstep the mark by slapping friends of mine on the arse and trying to lift them up all the time. One friend made the mistake of going to group salsa dancing with him as a friend and he took that as a green light to touch her boob! He got fixated with another (very gobby!) friend and used to take her screaming at him to '**** off and leave her alone' as 'playing hard to get' and also 'being passionate!'. I escaped all the creepy bullshit because the first time I saw him slap someone on the arse I (very calmly and firmly) told him that under no circumstances was he ever to place one finger on me. Not even to shake my hand. And if he ever did then I would punch him so hard in the face that he would swallow at least 2 teeth. And it registered with him! But yeah, there are certain blokes that you have to really spell it out to that they have no chance and they are to leave you alone. And then you do not give blur boundaries and mix messages if you want to have an easy time and not have them bothering you! Heavy is one of those blokes. It sucks but it was obvious that Bear was using Chloe to get back at Heavy D for the previous argument and Chloe (I suspect) was using Bear to get rid of Heavy's interest but it doesn't really work with delusional people like that because they cannot take a hint!”

Your "friend" sounds like a potential rapist. He clearly has no concept of the word "NO"

WTF have guys like Heavy D got going on in their heads that they have the right to a woman & if she decided to pursue other men she has somehow caused him a personal affront?? What's a f****g arrogant attitude! Sexist arrogant & boorish.
Locomo
05-08-2016
I've been no fan of either Bear or Chloe but found the reactions to them kissing ridiculous. Why should Chloe have to take into account Heavy's fixation with her any more than Marnie should avoid getting involved with Lewis because Grant was interested in her? Craziness!
Nate_Thomas
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by chameleon212:
“I think Renee and Saira are jealous of Chloe's natural beauty and are trying to find ways to spite her.

Their arguments made absolutely no sense and seemed somewhat forced, as if they were desperate to find some kind of fault in her behaviour.

The fact is Chloe has done nothing wrong, she has been the victim of 2 very immature boys with boundary issues.

But as usual, young attractive female gets blamed for everything.”

Nothing natural about Chloe
chameleon212
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by Nate_Thomas:
“Nothing natural about Chloe”

More focus shifted towards the victim.
lea27
05-08-2016
The only thing that was a little off was the way she was saying someone might see and then noticed Heavy and knew that he had seen and kept mentioning that he was watching, she was aware the whole time what she was doing and that Heavy was witnessing the whole thing knowing he wouldn't be happy.
ahoyy
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by Glinny:
“Chloe is no innocent. Of course she knows exactly how Heavy D feels about her.

I'm not a Saira fan but i do agree with her.

During the task Chloe standing there with her nipples out. She saw the reaction from Heavy D.

Chloe knows the score.”

SO WHAT!!!!! She knows the score? SO WHAT!!!!

She can know the score and do whatever she wants with her nipples. It still doesn't mean she wants to go with the fat one.

"She asked for it".... the oldest apology for woman hatred ever known.
Chris_P_White
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by boddism:
“Bear & Boom have known each other for what, 5 days? Since when are they "mates"?

Heavy D is acting like a child & so is Renee. Both Bear & Chloe are adults and neither have any obligations to either get with someone who fancies them if they don't fancy them back, or behave carefully around others.
WTF! she is not Boom's PROPERTY- we're in an era if massive interest in feminism & yet a young woman is meant to "control" herself because a man 20 yrs older than her wants to screw her!! What is going on here.

Not that I'm a fan of Chloe or Bear- they're both idiots. Chloe is a young,frivolous good looking but thick woman & she's gonna want to go with a young frivolous, good looking thick man. That's only to be expected.

The middle aged letches need to get a reality check & grow up!

Renee is being a female equivalent of Grant Bkvey, latching over someone 20yrs younger than her. We regard Boveh as a creep, but what about the other 2?”


I *love* this post.

And ahoyy said ""She asked for it".... the oldest apology for woman hatred ever known."

Ain't that the truth.....
Vicky8675309
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by gcmac:
“I don't think Chloe or Bear did anything wrong in the way that they don't have to get permission from Renee or Heavy to kiss someone. She is no loyalty to Heavy and he was horrible to her in the task and referred to her as 'that' the other day. No wonder she thought he was joking about liking her.”

Originally Posted by kandi_kane:
“Absolutely ridiculous from those who think Bear and chloe had no right to kiss. They are two adults, have no allegiance to anyone in that house, and if they want to kiss it's nobody's business but theirs. Chloe has made it clear she does not fancy Heavy D so why shouldn't she cop off with someone she does fancy? Renee is really pissing me off too!”

Originally Posted by hisdogspot:
“I think Heavy D's focus on Chloe is an oppressive force on her in the house

She does not welcome his attention ... she does not want his attention, and yet she seems to be expected by others in the house to adapt her behaviour in order to keep him happy

I think that's outrageous”


Yes to all the above.

I don't like the implication that Chloe or Bear have to modify their behavior toward each other just because someone else may desire them. Renee and Boom are not entitled to the other person...no "dibs" bullsh*t. Should Chloe, Bear or anyone have to curtail their pleasure just because someone may get jealous? What if a viewer develops a crush on one of the HMs (yuck, never mind, lol)...
ahoyy
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by Little Leigh:
“I will start by saying that I hate all that bullshit 'women have to watch what they do because men can't control themselves' schtick. But unfortunately you have someone in there (Heavy D) that doesn't understand boundaries. I know someone like him in that respect. He used to overstep the mark by slapping friends of mine on the arse and trying to lift them up all the time. One friend made the mistake of going to group salsa dancing with him as a friend and he took that as a green light to touch her boob! He got fixated with another (very gobby!) friend and used to take her screaming at him to '**** off and leave her alone' as 'playing hard to get' and also 'being passionate!'. I escaped all the creepy bullshit because the first time I saw him slap someone on the arse I (very calmly and firmly) told him that under no circumstances was he ever to place one finger on me. Not even to shake my hand. And if he ever did then I would punch him so hard in the face that he would swallow at least 2 teeth. And it registered with him! But yeah, there are certain blokes that you have to really spell it out to that they have no chance and they are to leave you alone. And then you do not give blur boundaries and mix messages if you want to have an easy time and not have them bothering you! Heavy is one of those blokes. It sucks but it was obvious that Bear was using Chloe to get back at Heavy D for the previous argument and Chloe (I suspect) was using Bear to get rid of Heavy's interest but it doesn't really work with delusional people like that because they cannot take a hint!”

I had a friend and she had a weirdo just like this interested in her. Very similar in mannerisms to Heavy D in fact.
Anyway, we went to a party at another friends house one night and he was there. He really freaked her out early on so we went to the kitchen and got the biggest kitchen knife they had and made sure he saw us getting it out the draw. He kept his distance from then on.
Vicky8675309
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by boddism:
“Bear & Boom have known each other for what, 5 days? Since when are they "mates"?

Heavy D is acting like a child & so is Renee. Both Bear & Chloe are adults and neither have any obligations to either get with someone who fancies them if they don't fancy them back, or behave carefully around others.
WTF! she is not Boom's PROPERTY- we're in an era if massive interest in feminism & yet a young woman is meant to "control" herself because a man 20 yrs older than her wants to screw her!! What is going on here.

Not that I'm a fan of Chloe or Bear- they're both idiots. Chloe is a young,frivolous good looking but thick woman & she's gonna want to go with a young frivolous, good looking thick man. That's only to be expected.

The middle aged letches need to get a reality check & grow up!

Renee is being a female equivalent of Grant Bkvey, latching over someone 20yrs younger than her. We regard Boveh as a creep, but what about the other 2?”


BIB: agree! IIRC Bear even told Boom that they weren't "mates" after Boom apologized (might have been the apology regarding the false accusation of bed tampering). Bear said it was cool (wtte) and Boom said something like "so we are mates or friends again" and Bear said something like "we are not friends but everything is cool" wtte.
jp761
05-08-2016
Has Chloe got BF not sure. Not following all that closely.

If so, the only person she should pander to now, is him. In fact i'd have dumped her all ready.
jp761
05-08-2016
Bear made me sick with all the "I like kissing you stuff... obviously Chloe was half into it...

But so f'ing what he likes kissing her though, what a bell end.

I'm sure there's plenty of women I would like kissing but i'm not going too unless they want it. And are into it as well.

Bottom line Bear slime bag
ahoyy
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by jp761:
“Bear made me sick with all the "I like kissing you stuff... obviously Chloe was half into it...

But so f'ing what he likes kissing her though, what a bell end.

I'm sure there's plenty of women I would like kissing but i'm not going too unless they want it. And are into it as well.

Bottom line Bear slime bag”

Chloe being half into it was obvious. It was more like she was acting how she thought viewers would want her to act. If that makes sense. Then reality struck and she backtracked in the diary room. But more alcohol and some grabby bloke's non stop persistence soon weakened her again. Without Heavy D looking for a fight it would have got very uncomfortable with grabby, violent bloke demanding to get in her bed and her saying NO.
Zarla
05-08-2016
They were snogging in the pool tonight in the live feed, so obviously she's Ok with it.
muggins14
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by Zarla:
“They were snogging in the pool tonight in the live feed, so obviously she's Ok with it.”

Strangely, in-between snogs he was talking to Marnie and Lewis about his girlfriend and Chloe's boyfriend - very odd indeed.
ShadowTillNow
05-08-2016
I pay no attention to the BOOM! Baby or Trout Pout but I'd like to know why any of them care what Renee thinks of Bear kissing her? Is there some rule about Renee having control of his balls? It's like they were tip-toeing about the issue so not to upset Renee... Bear and/or Chloe don't owe that hag shit and it was like they were exposing an affair to the poor oblivious wife... What's that about?
Vicky8675309
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by ShadowTillNow:
“I pay no attention to the BOOM! Baby or Trout Pout but I'd like to know why any of them care what Renee thinks of Bear kissing her? Is there some rule about Renee having control of his balls? It's like they were tip-toeing about the issue so not to upset Renee... Bear and/or Chloe don't owe that hag shit and it was like they were exposing an affair to the poor oblivious wife... What's that about?”

They don't owe Renee shit! Renee is to Bear as Boom is to Chloe. Renee put the moves on Bear and he rejected her just like Chloe rejected Boom. Bitter possessive delusional HMs.
jp761
05-08-2016
Hasn't Renee got some 46 year old NBA dude anyway. These people are a mess.
Vicky8675309
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by jp761:
“Hasn't Renee got some 46 year old NBA dude anyway. These people are a mess.”

Maybe she has a "hall pass"
PabloJ
05-08-2016
Chloe quietly taking off her make-up while things kicked off with Heavy and Bear, was a real d*** move. I'm not saying she has to like Heavy, (in fact I don't blame her for disliking him) but she helped ignite that conflict and should've at least tried to diffuse it.

Yes, Heavy is totally delusional to think Chloe "led him on". But they didn't have to rub salt in Heavy's (self-inflicted) wounds. They did it for TV air-time AND because Heavy had annoyed both of them.
jp761
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by Vicky8675309:
“Maybe she has a "hall pass"”

Haha Maybe lol
ShadowTillNow
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by Vicky8675309:
“They don't owe Renee shit! Renee is to Bear as Boom is to Chloe. Renee put the moves on Bear and he rejected her just like Chloe rejected Boom. Bitter possessive delusional HMs.”

Did this actually happen?

If so then she must need her head testing. Did she think there was any hope? Bear should have asked to be removed from the house then and there! I'd want danger money!
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