Then why wasn't the fear and comments from other housemates, that they wanted all 3 of the scum kicked out, taken into consideration? So worried about the safety of the other housemates that they let all the people they're scared of back in.
Channel 5 not only wants actual full on hardcore sex to happen on the show, but it also wants serious violence to break out too. Maybe a rape or two for good measure when some gormless girl gets a bit too drunk. This really is trash tv. I feel that to watch it any further will be aiding and abetting a crime.

Say if it did happen which I don't think it would they would not show the public.

Rape......really a bit ott don't you think. Both marnie and Chloe seem game enough without alcohol.

I agree BB are going raga nest long established rules simply to keep the three idiots for storylines and controversy.

I question bbs lack of intervention and warning for heavy who approximately each and threatened bear......even though I don't like him BB are hypocrites and write the rule book when and how it suits them and their agenda.

They seem game enough?... until the point where they sober up a little bit and say NO... then what? do you think grabby, aggressive drunk guy who wants to sleep in her bed is gonna stop?
Trust me, one day soon this show will have a serious crime committed. Maybe not this series, but a series very soon will.

The show would be the last.

People play on girls being drunk far too much, you can tell by a person's General behaviour and signals if they want a romantic connection with a guy girl or not. You can't just assume men wait for women to get drunk and pounce. The girls will be spending a lot of sober time with bear and Lewis, I'm sure they'll be aware of whether they're in with a chance or not. Both girls seem more than Comfortable getting close to the guys in there, even smiling and giggling a lot, hardly the behaviour of someone being forced against their will. I feel the four of them already know one another in the cutie world. None of them seem to be uncomfortable in their present company.

Where has all this come from????? Have I missed something, have girls distance themselves or asked for help/advice from BB etc?????

It's not about being comfortable around someone. They might like the attention SOMETIMES, flirting, a kiss or two, NOW AND AGAIN. But what about the moment where they have a change of heart and say NO? No means no. And someone can change their mind whenever they want.
"She asked for it your honour, she was all over me an hour before"..... B*llSh*t, and it won't stand up in court.

And if girls are distancing themselves (and Aubrey, Sam, Saira are btw) or going to the diary room for help/advice, BB wouldn't show it. Just like they never showed any of the numerous warnings they had given to Bear.

Not at all OTT with the way Bear and Heavy D are behaving towards Chloe in there.

Oh come on your just clasping at straws, what if someone stabbed someone with a knife, what if a hm slipped and died by the pool. You can't assume merely because the men are idiots and dislikable that they will rape the girls if they change their mind. And so what if they do change their mind, with characters like bear he will just be like....stuff you then, and try and get another woman. I think your taking this WAY TOO SERIOUSLY DEAR. Calm down, nothing has happened for a start to worry about such unlikely outcomes on national tv and secondly why assume the girls and guys for that matter are victims and potential attackers???? I really don't get what your trying to achieve here......odd.

As for court cases how many women LIE too.

Heavy may not like rejection but I seriously doubt he's a potential rapist, its just hurt his ego. I think he's more angry with bear now being his 'mate'.

As for bear he's gutted Lewis appears as the alpha getting in with marnie first and gaining the airtime. He's having fun with Chloe to stapple his own place in there, don't think he's taken heavy seriously as they're all aware in there that Chloe doesn't like him romantically.

Chloe herself seems to enjoy bears company, the flirting, cuddling, kissing etc so at The present time i don't get why people are jumping the gun so radically. she's enjoying his advances, the length of kisses and frequency, even her smiles suggest that much surely.

I'm really confused, I don't understand this assumption that something horrific is likely to occur when there is no signs off it. Its as though ppl just want to say 'I told you so', because they dislike strongly particular hms.

I dislike them all but there is no criminals and psycho paths in there, it a game in which four young hms are having 'fun' to maximise their airtime and thus earning potential.


Has bear or heavy got convictions of previous sexual assault? If not I have no idea where all this is coming from.

Are people really negatively tarnishing hms this much now simply to convince others regarding hms that they don't like?

You don't have to have a conviction, plenty of men get away with rape.

I'm not making any accusations but their behaviour is very predatory and there's no way of knowing what they are capable of.

I think your on the wrong board hun.

So in your mind then we should all be tarnished for being rapists waiting to pounce as we don't have convictions. or are you only slating men?

There is NO way of knowing what anyone in that house is capable of, or you, or anyone else on here.

Grant and Renee are predatory are they also potentially dangerous too? Or does this only apply to a select few.

Yes. Grant has also showed signs of lecherous behaviour. Renee is a woman, women cannot rape men.

If he wants to kiss anyone he will. Whenever he wants, whenever he likes, whatever.

His own words.

So three of the men in the house are potential rapists? ok........

I think you will find women CAN rape a man?????

Sorry this thread is way ott, presumptive and libellous, I'm exiting.

If this how people think today with out any factual justification I truly worry.

......erm I think your taking this WAY to literally.

......erm I think your taking this WAY to literally.

He was saying he wouldn't let 'mates/other men' prevent him from going after a girl that's single and he likes, they aren't married, and doesn't lay claim to them. It's all bout the context?

It's called reading between the lines. His attitude towards women is very dangerous.

He's a wimp, whenever he's challenged he backs off I.e. with Renee, James, the security guards, BB. He's just a gob on legs that's playing up to get another gig.

We can all read between the lines and make up anything we like because we will see what we want to see. interpretation and assumptions aren't facts. You can't judge the guy nor hold something against him if it isn't in black and white. If that was the case our justice system would be fcuked.

The rapey context of "I take what I want, when I want".
What was it he told Saira on the first day? "I like to mess people up, it's funny. Especially if they don't like me". Cue Saira asking him if he was a violent man... hmmmm. We've just seen in the diary room that he is.

Raping someone, physically attacking someone etc are completely different to verbal crap and pulling a door aggressively.

If that's the case Jason was a nut job.

People say a lot when they're spouting rubbish, even threats its not the same as actually carrying a crime out.

This is like the minority report, convicting someone of a heinous crime before its even been thought of. worrying times.

I think a lot of what bear say is twisted because of his use of language to be honest, his comments to saira were that he'd mess (around) with someone to wind them up more if they don't like him/nom him......again context. Mess doesn't equal aggression or murder etc its a regional meaning that seems to being twisted.

Also some people spout rubbish, even threats and mean every word they say.


He also says he is not a bullshitter. "I don't lie me, I'm honest".

oh dear

Your just clasping at straws, that's like 1% of the population, but for your agendas sake he happens to be said person without actually any proof he would actually be one of these people and physically carry out such acts.

I'll leave it there, people want to see a dangerous rapist in him for some unknown reason just because he's disposable and it can rarely happen, a lot can happen we don't accuse everyone of everything though do we.

Again there is some very damaging and strong accusations being made with no substantial evidence. I think for the board's Benfit we should leave it alone, as you can get sued.

See people don't always mean what they say

WHEN he commits a crime, Lou. I will find you and tell you I told you so. You heard it here first ok. Don't be duped by pretty eyes.