it is, however, how long will it last ?
this lot will eventually need to learn a trade of some sort as they simply will not be able to go through life relying on reality shows like Geordie Shore, as A they will get older, nobody will be interested. B it could just be a fad, how much longer will TOWIE and the like last?
you can have hundreds of thousands of twitter followers but still be broke. alot of these 'reality stars' base their lives on the amount of followers they have.
basically what im trying to say is without any sort of 'talent' to offer the showbiz world (acting, singing, song writing etc) there is only so long till the work will dry up.
where will the likes of Bear and Marnie be in 10 years? because its not going to be television and the money will run out.

Some of them are not so young - they are well into their 20s, some plus. But they play at being the most appalling teenagers for as long as possible, because that's where their market is.
Anyway my treasure of a daughter-in-law has gone back to college after having a child and is now working her way through an adult apprenticeship - £3.30 an hour in first year.

Your sentiments are good ones. But a lot of people also think footballers aren't 'working' for a living. Kicking a ball around for millions.

And these bell end's you see on CBB, will probably have more money in their bank than anyone's child on here. Money isn't everything, that's fact. But unfortunately these young people on your tv will not care one jot about your view OP. Or any of our views.

Ricky, isn't a bad example of a young person though.

Totally disagree.

First of all, most of the young people described on this thread would be intelligent, interesting, funny and able to string a sentence together without expletives or getting their tits or bum out.

Just because they work hard and earn a living doesn't make them dull. On the contrary, they have more life experience and topics of conversation than how many girls they've shagged, how many times they've thrown up in Magaluf or when they plan to get the next boob/botox/lip enhancement.

They can also be really funny spontaneous, argumentative and more importantly they are socially aware.

My kids and the youngsters I work with can be absolutely hilarious and make me cry with laughter at times.

Think of the early Big Brothers - people like Alex Sibley, Brian Dowling, Kate Lawler, Anna Nolan etc, - all young, all really entertaining, funny and capable of speaking in coherent sentences.

My daughter is 4 years old, she is on a day out with her auntie today, i have just got a text from my sister saying, and i quote 'I've just given her space dust for the first time, she laughed so hard she farted'

I can now draw a parallel between the 'Squad' and my 4 year old on space dust...

I'm 21 and just about to start my postgraduate degree this September after 3 years in an undergrad! I've been working since the week I turned 16 and work full time hours during every summer, Christmas and mid term and weekends during the academic year! I would not be able to afford going to uni if I didn't work! My siblings too are all working and they're not even in uni yet! Everything is not handed on a silver platter!!

Well said. I don't WANT to see the likes of Bear or Lewis on my telly - I can see that any Saturday night if I stand outside a club!

Oh but you are so behind the times! What is the point of harking back to the halcyon days of BB1 and BB2? By BB4 the world had turned off and the crank-up began with BB5 - a different animal altogether.

BB1 - BB4 were experiments - they didn't have much of a clue whether or not they would work as a group of HMs, and when all the characters got voted out early in BB4, they realised that putting ordinary folk in was too much of a gamble. This seems to be what you are suggesting we go back to.

Perhaps it is time to realise that you are not the target audience, the show will not be doing a U turn any time soon. Your children in the BB house as it is today would have people turning off in droves, even though it would keep a very small minority happy.

Exactly. This is what a celebrity is these days.

They are celebrities because lots of people watch them on tv, including everyone on this forum complaining about it.

There is a film Idiocracy http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/

It is not that great to be honest but the premise of the movie is what is happening with our society now. Idiots breeding idiots!

The celebration of an idiot. TOWIE/Ex on the Beach/Geordie Shore.....People look up to these imbeciles and celebrate them and want their successes.

That is why I was livid when Lewis Bloor who is famous for a reality show which he had no real story line in is siting there saying James Whale is least talented because he didn't know what he had done.

It's a disgrace!

Hear, hear. If I see that pouty thing get her breasts out to validate herself one more time, I think I'll vomit.

success isn't all about degrees and fancy jobs.
just having common sense, self respect ,not being fame hungry and not looking like a fake barbie doll like a lot of my generation is something to be proud of.

Couldn't agree more. Not everyone can obtain degrees; doesn't mean they can't make a complete success of their life I know plenty who have.

I have 2 sons, one has just become a junior doctor and is finally going to support himself. The other one has just decided to change his career and has gone back to uni to do an OTP course. I am bursting with pride and showing off.

I have three daughters.

One got a 1st at Durham studying Law. Of over 200 Law students, she got the highest marks. She has just completed her Masters at Cambridge and again got a 1st. Her next year will be spent doing her Barristers Bar Course in Manchester, where she will then be called to the Bar. She has a position following that at a top London firm to do her one year pupillige in Tax Law.

Her twin got an English degree in Liverpool, achieving a 2.1 and is now studying for a post grad degree in Medicine at Warwick.

My youngest has just qualified as a Primary School Teacher, having achieved a 1st and a Distinction. She has a position to teach at a school in Surrey in September, so will be leaving the North West (sadly!)

I am incredibly proud of them all. They all also had part time jobs throughout.

How brilliant. My son has just graduated in medicine at Warwick. It's a great uni, I hope she enjoys it.

A lot of members here seem to have children who have done very well for themselves. That's all good obviously. These high standards aren't the norm though.

But the milkman, binman whatever are all just as valuable. I'm sure their parents are just as proud.

On the other end of the scale the very low standards seen on CBB an reality tv they aren't the norm either.

Fortunately.

Very well done to your son too!

She's enjoying Warwick, although the workload is daunting!

Thank you.

binman I'd say without a doubt, one of the most important jobs in the country, milkman, less so, just go the shop or if you can't have water on your coco pops

Exactly, I wasn't able to take my exams and I have a learning disability in Maths. I suppose someone like me would be looked down upon by most in this thread.

Of course they are. No snobbery in my house. I live on a housing estate and only have one child with degrees. The other two have mediocre careers but great normal jobs. My brainy daughter is no snob either and her boyfriend is a postman - grand job! Keeps you fit 'an all!