I felt more offended when Heavy D called Bear a c***, but I have no love for any of the two of them.
Breaking news and it's a removal
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Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“I'd agree. Even if his comments were 'offensive', that may not necessarily be a reason to remove him. I don't think we've ever seen a situation where someone shouted "you f***ing (racial slur)" at another HM during an argument. It's always about people dropping into a conversation comments likely to cause offence to viewers, whatever on earth that means.”
“I'd agree. Even if his comments were 'offensive', that may not necessarily be a reason to remove him. I don't think we've ever seen a situation where someone shouted "you f***ing (racial slur)" at another HM during an argument. It's always about people dropping into a conversation comments likely to cause offence to viewers, whatever on earth that means.”
A contestant was removed from BB a few years ago (sorry, don't remember names or exact series) for using the N word. And quite right too.
Originally Posted by Etty_Dee:
“A contestant was removed from BB a few years ago (sorry, don't remember names or exact series) for using the N word. And quite right too.”
“A contestant was removed from BB a few years ago (sorry, don't remember names or exact series) for using the N word. And quite right too.”
BB8 Emily Parr.
How many times has somebody said something offensive only to then say "It was just a joke" well sometimes these "Jokes" hurt and cause offensive.
In Biggins case what if someone made a homophobic remark onlt to then say "Well it was just a joke"
And I say this as someone who has been a Biggins fan as far back as I can remember.
In Biggins case what if someone made a homophobic remark onlt to then say "Well it was just a joke"
And I say this as someone who has been a Biggins fan as far back as I can remember.
It's being broadcast to a million people so it's not just some old fool having a chortle with his mates down the pub. C5 can't be seen to condone bigotry. People joking about the holocaust around a Jewish person is offensive full stop.
Originally Posted by Wainy84:
“BB8 Emily Parr.”
“BB8 Emily Parr.”
And it wasn't said maliciously, if I recall correctly. The girls were dancing & she said it in the way that some black people talk to other black people (she was too young & naive to understand that as a white girl she could not use the word).
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“How many times has somebody said something offensive only to then say "It was just a joke" well sometimes these "Jokes" hurt and cause offensive.
In Biggins case what if someone made a homophobic remark onlt to then say "Well it was just a joke"
And I say this as someone who has been a Biggins fan as far back as I can remember.”
“How many times has somebody said something offensive only to then say "It was just a joke" well sometimes these "Jokes" hurt and cause offensive.
In Biggins case what if someone made a homophobic remark onlt to then say "Well it was just a joke"
And I say this as someone who has been a Biggins fan as far back as I can remember.”
Bib you can bet your life he'd have been upset and offended
Originally Posted by Etty_Dee:
“A contestant was removed from BB a few years ago (sorry, don't remember names or exact series) for using the N word. And quite right too.”
“A contestant was removed from BB a few years ago (sorry, don't remember names or exact series) for using the N word. And quite right too.”
I wonder if you have forgotten the incident and the context along with the names and series. Dragging that wee girl from her bed to eject her in her nightwear in the small wee hours was the most monumental over reaction to a mere word!
Originally Posted by Etty_Dee:
“A contestant was removed from BB a few years ago (sorry, don't remember names or exact series) for using the N word. And quite right too.”
“A contestant was removed from BB a few years ago (sorry, don't remember names or exact series) for using the N word. And quite right too.”
It was not "quite right too" in my opinion. I remember the incident and the context in which the word was used. There was no malicious intent behind its use, similar to when white folks sing along to rap songs (which are liberally spread with the word in question).
Even when discussing the use of the word (as they did in CBB a few years ago) the housemates were issued a warning. They were not cussing each other, simply discussing why the word is such a hot potato.
Context is everything.
I also agree with the OP regarding the right to decide personally whether I am offended or not by actions or words of another.
Originally Posted by Goggle girl:
“And it wasn't said maliciously, if I recall correctly. The girls were dancing & she said it in the way that some black people talk to other black people (she was too young & naive to understand that as a white girl she could not use the word).”
“And it wasn't said maliciously, if I recall correctly. The girls were dancing & she said it in the way that some black people talk to other black people (she was too young & naive to understand that as a white girl she could not use the word).”
You do recall correctly and I agree with you.
Originally Posted by Goggle girl:
“And it wasn't said maliciously, if I recall correctly. The girls were dancing & she said it in the way that some black people talk to other black people (she was too young & naive to understand that as a white girl she could not use the word).”
“And it wasn't said maliciously, if I recall correctly. The girls were dancing & she said it in the way that some black people talk to other black people (she was too young & naive to understand that as a white girl she could not use the word).”
That's right, and it was Channel 4 days.
Just goes to show how incindiary racial issues are, and how careful broadcasters have to be around these things. I wonder if we'll ever find out what Biggins actually said.
Originally Posted by Etty_Dee:
“That's right, and it was Channel 4 days.
Just goes to show how incindiary racial issues are, and how careful broadcasters have to be around these things. I wonder if we'll ever find out what Biggins actually said.”
“That's right, and it was Channel 4 days.
Just goes to show how incindiary racial issues are, and how careful broadcasters have to be around these things. I wonder if we'll ever find out what Biggins actually said.”
I'd say we will. Biggins has the right to clear his name and give his own version of events.
Originally Posted by UncleManifestor:
“It was not "quite right too" in my opinion. I remember the incident and the context in which the word was used. There was no malicious intent behind its use, similar to when white folks sing along to rap songs (which are liberally spread with the word in question).
Even when discussing the use of the word (as they did in CBB a few years ago) the housemates were issued a warning. They were not cussing each other, simply discussing why the word is such a hot potato.
Context is everything.
I also agree with the OP regarding the right to decide personally whether I am offended or not by actions or words of another.”
“It was not "quite right too" in my opinion. I remember the incident and the context in which the word was used. There was no malicious intent behind its use, similar to when white folks sing along to rap songs (which are liberally spread with the word in question).
Even when discussing the use of the word (as they did in CBB a few years ago) the housemates were issued a warning. They were not cussing each other, simply discussing why the word is such a hot potato.
Context is everything.
I also agree with the OP regarding the right to decide personally whether I am offended or not by actions or words of another.”
BIB
Too bad you 2 don't make the rules then.
Originally Posted by Goggle girl:
“And it wasn't said maliciously, if I recall correctly. The girls were dancing & she said it in the way that some black people talk to other black people (she was too young & naive to understand that as a white girl she could not use the word).”
“And it wasn't said maliciously, if I recall correctly. The girls were dancing & she said it in the way that some black people talk to other black people (she was too young & naive to understand that as a white girl she could not use the word).”
I agree.
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“I wonder if you have forgotten the incident and the context along with the names and series. Dragging that wee girl from her bed to eject her in her nightwear in the small wee hours was the most monumental over reaction to a mere word!”
“I wonder if you have forgotten the incident and the context along with the names and series. Dragging that wee girl from her bed to eject her in her nightwear in the small wee hours was the most monumental over reaction to a mere word!”
Think it was more due to fact they'd just had the Shilpa shetty/ jade goody series a few months before and didn't want more hassle and complaints
Originally Posted by Etty_Dee:
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BIB
Too bad you 2 don't make the rules then.”
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BIB
Too bad you 2 don't make the rules then.”
Correct. The sales of pearls and smelling salts would be through the roof...
Originally Posted by Zarla:
“It's being broadcast to a million people so it's not just some old fool having a chortle with his mates down the pub. C5 can't be seen to condone bigotry. People joking about the holocaust around a Jewish person is offensive full stop.”
“It's being broadcast to a million people so it's not just some old fool having a chortle with his mates down the pub. C5 can't be seen to condone bigotry. People joking about the holocaust around a Jewish person is offensive full stop.”
But then don't show it. If thats the case. Higgins has a lot more to offer.
None would have been any the wiser had they just not mentioned it
Originally Posted by UncleManifestor:
“Correct. The sales of pearls and smelling salts would be through the roof...”
“Correct. The sales of pearls and smelling salts would be through the roof...”
Cocaine is illegal. Would the pearls be the sort that are placed in body orifices, and yanked out at the appropriate moment?
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“How many times has somebody said something offensive only to then say "It was just a joke" well sometimes these "Jokes" hurt and cause offensive.
In Biggins case what if someone made a homophobic remark onlt to then say "Well it was just a joke"
And I say this as someone who has been a Biggins fan as far back as I can remember.”
“How many times has somebody said something offensive only to then say "It was just a joke" well sometimes these "Jokes" hurt and cause offensive.
In Biggins case what if someone made a homophobic remark onlt to then say "Well it was just a joke"
And I say this as someone who has been a Biggins fan as far back as I can remember.”
Depends on the subject matter though doesn't it and societies view of the affected demographic. Society cares about the LGBT community.
Originally Posted by Zarla:
“It's being broadcast to a million people so it's not just some old fool having a chortle with his mates down the pub. C5 can't be seen to condone bigotry. People joking about the holocaust around a Jewish person is offensive full stop.”
“It's being broadcast to a million people so it's not just some old fool having a chortle with his mates down the pub. C5 can't be seen to condone bigotry. People joking about the holocaust around a Jewish person is offensive full stop.”
"If" it is offensive enough to not say it around Jewish people, then it is too offensive to be said at all.
The idea of everyone merrily laughing away about concentration camps and slavery behind the backs of Jewish people and black people is repugnant.
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“Biggins is an ancient relic from a bygone age and that's where he will be staying now”
“Biggins is an ancient relic from a bygone age and that's where he will be staying now”
He is 65 Dundee boy. not ready for his bone box yet!
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“But then don't show it. If thats the case. Higgins has a lot more to offer.
None would have been any the wiser had they just not mentioned it”
“But then don't show it. If thats the case. Higgins has a lot more to offer.
None would have been any the wiser had they just not mentioned it”
But a racist/sexist/etc comment can (and is likely to) change someone's entire opinion of a person. If they didn't show it/acted like it didn't happen then many people would be potentially voting for someone to win based on false pretences.
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“Biggins is an ancient relic from a bygone age and that's where he will be staying now”
“Biggins is an ancient relic from a bygone age and that's where he will be staying now”
Without a live feed. That the public can see, It really is Celebrity beware
they are all at the mercy of producers, that's quite a scary thought isn't it?
Until this double standard they use ends nothing will change. They condone and use
deeply offensive visual material, But go all Mary whitehouse on Verbal its crazy
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