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I think Bear has a mental illness.
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Robinson1
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by Cheetah666:
“Self pity. Its one of the few emotions a sociopath is capable of genuinely feeling.”

Yup! Having been involved with one, totally agree.
Robinson1
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by Party Animal:
“I agree he is a time bomb wont be long before his violence comes back to the fore
sooner he gets some help from the men in white coats the better”

Unfortunately, there's not a not that can be done if it is a personality disorder - unless he does get violent. The sociopath I knew was not a violent person but more of a deliberate head f*** He will be a lonely old man one day.
sutie
05-08-2016
I find him totally chilling. He seems to have no boundaries whatsoever, and positively revels in people's discomfort.
Mr_XcX
05-08-2016
He's a classic sociopath.

He said tonight he likes Saira cause she "causes arguments".
Cheetah666
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by Robinson1:
“Yup! Having been involved with one, totally agree.”

Same here. You can spot the tell tale traits in Bear if you've known one intimately.
PercyBysshe
05-08-2016
Show me a sane man and I will cure him for you.
johnan
05-08-2016
I wonder what he was like as a pupil, if he ever went to school.
A nightmare for teachers, and fellow pupils, I would imagine.

Something is not right in there.
ajb_tic_tac
05-08-2016
To be fair, I just see him as a typical reality wannabe.
09beyoncefan
06-08-2016
I don't feel sorry for him one bit. If it's upset him it's his own fault for egging them all on to want him gone by being such an arrogant, OTT idiot.
heresitting
06-08-2016
bad parenting

A lifetime of being ridiculed and abused by the very people who were supposed to care for him, He craves attention, but it's lack of the right sort of parental attention that's at the root of this.

... and that boa and mask are fast starting to feel like comfort blankets.
tigerlily96
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by All_seeing_eye:
“I meet a lot of people with the disorder, usually I make comments on someone if I see traits.”

Trouble is people just get angry and say that we are making excuses for said person.
tigerlily96
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by heresitting:
“bad parenting

A lifetime of being ridiculed and abused by the very people who were supposed to care for him, He craves attention, but it's lack of the right sort of parental attention that's at the root of this.

... and that boa and mask are fast starting to feel like comfort blankets.”

Wow I had thought that myself about the boa!
Robinson1
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by Cheetah666:
“Same here. You can spot the tell tale traits in Bear if you've known one intimately.”

I think we chatted about that a couple of years ago when another HM (can't remember which one) had traits.
beth0o0
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by Helen90:
“Speaking as a psychologist (yes, I actually am) I reckon he's definitely got some sort of a personality disorder. This ain't normal.”

The only psychological disorder Bear has got is he is spoilt and a narcissistic brat who throws violent strops when he can't get others to follow what he says. he wants to be top dog and vyes on attention and publicity and will use and do anything to boost his own sad ego.
seether
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by beth0o0:
“The only psychological disorder Bear has got is he is spoilt and a narcissistic brat who throws violent strops when he can't get others to follow what he says. he wants to be top dog and vyes on attention and publicity and will use and do anything to boost his own sad ego.”

That's a very confident overturning of the opinions of those with apparent clinical experience on this thread... I don't know enough about Bear to have any idea of any background issues that may be contributing to his behaviour, childhood/parental etc.. if so people are always very quick to minimise what effect that can have. First thought was a touch of Brighton Rock around him somewhere.. kind of.. whether real or assumed/a front. At any rate it's sad to observe, not necessarily in the 'poor soul he's lovely really' way of some opinions, just sad.
tigerlily96
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by beth0o0:
“The only psychological disorder Bear has got is he is spoilt and a narcissistic brat who throws violent strops when he can't get others to follow what he says. he wants to be top dog and vyes on attention and publicity and will use and do anything to boost his own sad ego.”

And here is exactly the type of comment I'm talking about!
Helen90
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by seether:
“That's a very confident overturning of the opinions of those with apparent clinical experience on this thread... I don't know enough about Bear to have any idea of any background issues that may be contributing to his behaviour, childhood/parental etc.. if so people are always very quick to minimise what effect that can have. First thought was a touch of Brighton Rock around him somewhere.. kind of.. whether real or assumed/a front. At any rate it's sad to observe, not necessarily in the 'poor soul he's lovely really' way of some opinions, just sad.”

I don't specialise in clinical psychology, and obviously we're seeing an edited show so it's difficult to diagnose anyone based on that. Like I said, if I had to point out a specific personality disorder I'd guess it's antisocial personality disorder but borderline is also a possibility.

I don't think BB is the right environment for such a volatile person.
Rhumbatugger
06-08-2016
He's a nasty knob, who LIKES being a nasty knob.

Sadly there are quite a few out there just like him.

We're ALL on one damn scale or syndrome or another - there comes a time when knobdom has to be owned.
seether
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by Helen90:
“I don't specialise in clinical psychology, and obviously we're seeing an edited show so it's difficult to diagnose anyone based on that. Like I said, if I had to point out a specific personality disorder I'd guess it's antisocial personality disorder but borderline is also a possibility.

I don't think BB is the right environment for such a volatile person.”

Indeed, & I didn't mean to literally hold you (or anyone) up as a specifically qualified diagnostic voice on the matter, just as loosely more qualified than lay people.
beth0o0
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by seether:
“That's a very confident overturning of the opinions of those with apparent clinical experience on this thread... I don't know enough about Bear to have any idea of any background issues that may be contributing to his behaviour, childhood/parental etc.. if so people are always very quick to minimise what effect that can have. First thought was a touch of Brighton Rock around him somewhere.. kind of.. whether real or assumed/a front. At any rate it's sad to observe, not necessarily in the 'poor soul he's lovely really' way of some opinions, just sad.”

Then he should be removed! if hes that unbalanced he should of never been allowed to be a housemate. I don't believe for one second hes off his nut - hes just to up himself.
beth0o0
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by tigerlily96:
“And here is exactly the type of comment I'm talking about!”

And what exactly are you talking about? hes out for himself and all the comments I made about him I believe in.
flower 2
06-08-2016
He either has a caring family that is disappointed and upset at his behaviour or a family that is applauding him .........
Heartache
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by flower 2:
“He either has a caring family that is disappointed and upset at his behaviour or a family that is applauding him .........”

And a group of HM's enabling him and supporting his behaviour.
doormouse
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by beth0o0:
“Then he should be removed! if hes that unbalanced he should of never been allowed to be a housemate. I don't believe for one second hes off his nut - hes just to up himself.”

That's been said about a housemate every year. Then people state that BB is careless because they don't do the 'proper checks' - fact is, BB want people like this on the show. I'd say they check them very carefully.
flower 2
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by Heartache:
“And a group of HM's enabling him and supporting his behaviour.”

Sad but true......supporting and goading....not that that is an excuse....
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