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He is just putting on an act.
I watched the whole series of Shipwrecked that he was in with Tristan(brother of Andrew that was thrown out of bornal series just past) and he was a bit of a moron but nothing like he is on BB. He has clearly been paid to act as big of a moron as possible on BB. |
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He is just putting on an act.
I watched the whole series of Shipwrecked that he was in with Tristan(brother of Andrew that was thrown out of bornal series just past) and he was a bit of a moron but nothing like he is on BB. He has clearly been paid to act as big of a moron as possible on BB.
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He is just putting on an act.
I watched the whole series of Shipwrecked that he was in with Tristan(brother of Andrew that was thrown out of bornal series just past) and he was a bit of a moron but nothing like he is on BB. He has clearly been paid to act as big of a moron as possible on BB. |
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If stupidity qualifies as a mental illness then yes,I think he has.
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That's been said about a housemate every year. Then people state that BB is careless because they don't do the 'proper checks' - fact is, BB want people like this on the show. I'd say they check them very carefully.
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He's great tv. I wouldn't want to live with him probably but I like him for that alone. Kinda felt sorry for him for a second when I heard his voice break near the end of the programme when he was rowing with everyone. It hurt him.
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I just think Bear needs to grow up and stay off the booze!. He clearily cant handle it. Why is he back in the house?
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I don't think dickishness is actually classified as a mental illness.
It's more of a personality disorder. |
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He definitely has some kind of personality disorder. He is narcissistic, and probably a bit of a sociopath. He comes across as someone who would sell his own granny to further his 'career.'
Vile putrid article. There are always a bunch of sad little losers who club together and form fan groups for prize bell-ends like him though. |
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Are those two seperate points?
there's some more seperate points too. but I wouldn't want to wear my keys out over an attention seeking idiotic immature all front and silly little boy. |
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bad parenting
A lifetime of being ridiculed and abused by the very people who were supposed to care for him, He craves attention, but it's lack of the right sort of parental attention that's at the root of this. ... and that boa and mask are fast starting to feel like comfort blankets. |
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I don't think dickishness is actually classified as a mental illness.
It's more of a personality disorder. ![]() ![]()
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I agree with this. People are quick to pu labels on things but it could just be bad parenting and a dysfunctional upbringing.
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Whilst I wouldn't directly disagree with you or dismiss this, I am sick and tired of appalling behaviour being blamed on 'a bad upbringing' or 'a tough childhood.' MANY people didn't have the best childhood, and they don't go around behaving badly and treating people like crap.
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and he needs to grow up.
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He either has a caring family that is disappointed and upset at his behaviour or a family that is applauding him .........
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Whilst I wouldn't directly disagree with you or dismiss this, I am sick and tired of appalling behaviour being blamed on 'a bad upbringing' or 'a tough childhood.' MANY people didn't have the best childhood, and they don't go around behaving badly and treating people like crap.
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I don't know his background as I haven't the time/inclination to look it up - but without knowing differently, there are more than those 2 options?
While I do take this point, this argument leaves out the factor that poor upbringing will have a different effect on different types of people, even assuming that poor upbringing is very similar - even as a basic starting point surely it has to be assumed that some people will be far more susceptible to circumstance than others, more resilient in the face of parental failings, &c, even from sibling to sibling in the same family. He hasn't got an 'illness', any more than the majority of us. |
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I think Lewis, Marnie, and Chloe all display the typical narcissistic traits found in reality tv 'stars' who get ahead in the game - self-absorbed, never my fault, lack of self-awareness. The only intelligence narcissists display, imo, is that of manipulation, because they'll navigate life in a way that will always be of benefit to themselves. But, Bear is way out there with these traits by a thousand kilometres and a fully fledged malignant narcissist, imo. He lacks incredible empathy and ADORES being at the centre of all dramas BECAUSE it places him at the centre of it all.
You could see the clear enjoyment he got from hurting Heavy D (who at the time was supposed to be his mate and in his group) and just couldn't help himself by strutting over to his bed and placing his foot on the frame - a typical territorial move that enraged Heavy D, understandably. He enjoyed sticking the knife into Renee's back. Also, he is using Chloe in this emotional chess game to gain higher ground. But, she's to dumb to see. Another thing with these kind of narcissists, they will not think twice in throwing a mate or a family member under the bus as long as they gain the higher ground, i.e. Lewis? He enjoys degrading women or keeping them down a peg or two so he can feel superior - although he clearly shits himself around Renee ![]() One of the driving forces of these kinds of personalities is, other than the need to feel they are way better than EVERYBODY on planet earth, is their emotional reaction to being hurt even when they are usually the one in the wrong. They won't go away and re-evaluate their behavior, talk it through, find a compromise, etc like a well-adjusted adult. Their modus Operandi is revenge and to get that revenge quickly and Bear has shown this throughout. When he hurts people, he gives an insincere apology and basically tells those he's hurt to get over it. But when he gets hurt at the slightest of things - he's plannning his attack from the get-go. He is like the eternal rain cloud of negative doom and pulsates with internal poisons of which he projects it all back out on to other people because he is a deeply inadequate emotional individual. Yeah, I wouldn't trust anyone either if all I saw was my ugly, narcisissistic, conniving self in others, which he's unable to see. He thinks it's their traits and they have to prove him otherwise - but he will manipulate a situation to prove he is right. All the time. His reaction to being nominated week-in, week-out was of absolute shock and disgust and lacked such severe self-awareness he could neither comprehend where it all came from or get a hold on his emotional melt-down and tried to hide it with a pathetic display of overt masculine strutting and gobbing off, which actually made him look worse. When he said to Frankie for everybody who voted him out that they should just ignore him - I can only hope half the house would keep him at his word. Because I guarantee you, a narcissist like him, that would be the last thing he wants. To be ignored is a fate worse than death - They would just dry up and die. He will go out of his way to cause malignant drama as usual because in his ****ed up emotional world, that keeps him relevant. He cares for nobody's feelings but his own. And you can NEVER cure a narcisissist. EVER. There is nothing wrong with them. It is all of us who are ****ed in the head and if our feelings get hurt dealing with them? Tough. You don't matter and as long as you understand that and realise you exist for their emotional abuse, life is dandy. Like the saying goes; Neurotics make their own lives a misery. Narcissists just make everybody else miserable. He may be on our screens for a potential 3 more weeks, but I feel very sorry for everybody who will have the deep misfortune of being in his life from here-on-in, because these people get worse as they get older. One of the worst housemates ever, imo. Just because he acts like an overgrown, spiteful baby having a tantrum and we're talking about it, does not make him entertaining. He is drowning out everybody else's capacity to be shown or heard and we are left to judge their behaviour in reaction to his own. The boy seriously needs to wean himself off his mother's tit and get himself on solids because when full grown men act like this it really pisses me off to the point of anger. And I hate it that we live in a society that rewards behaviour like this. It really is the dreggs of entertainment, tbh.
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At some stage each of us is responsible for OURSELVES though, and accountable for our actions.
He hasn't got an 'illness', any more than the majority of us. |
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interesting thread, what is all this stuff he says when people say he's an arsehole, he then says "but I admit that, I own it" as if that makes it fine?
![]() not being a psychologist I can only give a diagnosis from East London, he's a wrong un, he aint right, he's downright shady
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Some of us will be better equipped to control our actions though, arguably? For example anger issues, yes we are responsible for controlling or attempting to control anger & aggression but I who do not have a temper (says me) will find it easier than someone with a fiery nature.. is all I'm saying..
That's his choice. It doesn't matter how 'easy' it is for different people, we are all different. He behaves in a damaging anti social way, that is unacceptable. |
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interesting thread, what is all this stuff he says when people say he's an arsehole, he then says "but I admit that, I own it" as if that makes it fine?
![]() not being a psychologist I can only give a diagnosis from East London, he's a wrong un, he aint right, he's downright shady ![]() It's like when people say 'I'm just being myself' - when they are cruel and unpleasant and downright horrible - the answer is - try NOT to be then, be someone else, that 'you' is bloody vile. |
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He is like the eternal rain cloud of negative doom and pulsates with internal poisons of which he projects it all back out on to other people because he is a deeply inadequate emotional individual. Yeah, I wouldn't trust anyone either if all I saw was my ugly, narcisissistic, conniving self in others, which he's unable to see. He thinks it's their traits and they have to prove him otherwise - but he will manipulate a situation to prove he is right. All the time.
His reaction to being nominated week-in, week-out was of absolute shock and disgust and lacked such severe self-awareness he could neither comprehend where it all came from or get a hold on his emotional melt-down and tried to hide it with a pathetic display of overt masculine strutting and gobbing off, which actually made him look worse. When he said to Frankie for everybody who voted him out that they should just ignore him - I can only hope half the house would keep him at his word. |
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Antisocial Personality Disorder would be my guess.
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Skunk would be my thought
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I know - completely facile - you admit it so you know it then. So do something about it you arsehole.
It's like when people say 'I'm just being myself' - when they are cruel and unpleasant and downright horrible - the answer is - try NOT to be then, be someone else, that 'you' is bloody vile. |
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I can only give a diagnosis from East London, he's a wrong un, he aint right, he's downright shady
