I think Bear has a mental illness.

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Pitman

06-08-2016

Originally Posted by seether:
“This is true of many HMs past & present who seem never to see that if their reaction to being nominated is fair & right - ie his reaction 'if you think I've been bad up to now you ain't seen nothing' (words to that effect) - why is that not the reaction they would expect from any other nommed HM? Boom for example, in this instance? If not, why not? Because their being nommed is all fine & as it should be? despite he (Bear) having done nothing to ingratiate himself, yet he somehow is not to be nommed?”

if your gameplan is to go in there and be an arsehole and wind people up any sane person would know they are going to pile up the noms

like that Irish fella with the baboon arse

last year, who despite being a bellend seemed to have some sort of grip on reality that Bear doesn't get near ?

Rhumbatugger

06-08-2016

Originally Posted by Pitman:
“if your gameplan is to go in there and be an arsehole and wind people up any sane person would know they are going to pile up the noms like that Irish fella with the baboon arse last year, who despite being a bellend seemed to have some sort of grip on reality that Bear doesn't get near ? ”

Bear seems to think that he can be unpleasant and annoying and downright horrible, but everyone will still love him really.

Spoiled little knob.

Or perhaps he actually thought he had them all properly intimidated.

Or both.

Pitman

06-08-2016

Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“I know - completely facile - you admit it so you know it then. So do something about it you arsehole.

It's like when people say 'I'm just being myself' - when they are cruel and unpleasant and downright horrible - the answer is - try NOT to be then, be someone else, that 'you' is bloody vile.”

he should wear a t-shirt saying "love me, I am an arse"

GibsonSG

06-08-2016

Originally Posted by KT_Dog:
“Are those two seperate points?”

They are.

sorcha_healy27

06-08-2016

I would have enjoyed seeing Marc interact with Bear

Whatever about Marc he didn't give a toss what people thought of him. Bear pretending not to care last night when he so obviously did was hilarious

Pitman

06-08-2016

Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“

Bear seems to think that he can be unpleasant and annoying and downright horrible, but everyone will still love him really.

Spoiled little knob.

Or perhaps he actually thought he had them all properly intimidated.

Or both.”

I think Bear needs one of Ricky's analogies, only this time more brutal, Bear won't take a blind bit of notice but it will be entertaining to watch for us

Rhumbatugger

06-08-2016

Originally Posted by Pitman:
“I think Bear needs one of Ricky's analogies, only this time more brutal, Bear won't take a blind bit of notice but it will be entertaining to watch for us ”

I would enjoy it

jenailsa

06-08-2016

Originally Posted by johnan:
“I wonder what he was like as a pupil, if he ever went to school.
A nightmare for teachers, and fellow pupils, I would imagine.

Something is not right in there.”

Yes totally agree. Poor teachers having to deal with him.

Sick n Sexified

06-08-2016

I've had him down as APD from very early on. He's charismatic and uses his natural influence over people to cause malice. This was obvious in the coffee incident with James, that dancing and singing around him was actually pretty sinister psychological bullying. He knew James would be uncomfortable by not doing anything, but if he joined in they would've laughed at him for trying. And when he realised James was no easy victim he got aggressive.

He throws me off a bit sometimes though. A psychopath wouldn't have shat themselves the way he did with that guard, and the way he reacted to that eternal nomination thing was like a rejected child rather than a deflated ego.

B*witched

06-08-2016

Originally Posted by Robinson1:
“I think he is a spoiled, narcissistic brat. More like a personality disorder, either attained or born with.”

Wish this forum had a like button. Agree 100%, he's an egotistical entitled little runt.

ajb_tic_tac

06-08-2016

Originally Posted by PotNoodleMonkey:
“I think Lewis, Marnie, and Chloe all display the typical narcissistic traits found in reality tv 'stars' who get ahead in the game - self-absorbed, never my fault, lack of self-awareness. The only intelligence narcissists display, imo, is that of manipulation, because they'll navigate life in a way that will always be of benefit to themselves. But, Bear is way out there with these traits by a thousand kilometres and a fully fledged malignant narcissist, imo. He lacks incredible empathy and ADORES being at the centre of all dramas BECAUSE it places him at the centre of it all.

You could see the clear enjoyment he got from hurting Heavy D (who at the time was supposed to be his mate and in his group) and just couldn't help himself by strutting over to his bed and placing his foot on the frame - a typical territorial move that enraged Heavy D, understandably. He enjoyed sticking the knife into Renee's back. Also, he is using Chloe in this emotional chess game to gain higher ground. But, she's to dumb to see. Another thing with these kind of narcissists, they will not think twice in throwing a mate or a family member under the bus as long as they gain the higher ground, i.e. Lewis? He enjoys degrading women or keeping them down a peg or two so he can feel superior - although he clearly shits himself around Renee

One of the driving forces of these kinds of personalities is, other than the need to feel they are way better than EVERYBODY on planet earth, is their emotional reaction to being hurt even when they are usually the one in the wrong. They won't go away and re-evaluate their behavior, talk it through, find a compromise, etc like a well-adjusted adult. Their modus Operandi is revenge and to get that revenge quickly and Bear has shown this throughout. When he hurts people, he gives an insincere apology and basically tells those he's hurt to get over it. But when he gets hurt at the slightest of things - he's plannning his attack from the get-go. He is like the eternal rain cloud of negative doom and pulsates with internal poisons of which he projects it all back out on to other people because he is a deeply inadequate emotional individual. Yeah, I wouldn't trust anyone either if all I saw was my ugly, narcisissistic, conniving self in others, which he's unable to see. He thinks it's their traits and they have to prove him otherwise - but he will manipulate a situation to prove he is right. All the time.

His reaction to being nominated week-in, week-out was of absolute shock and disgust and lacked such severe self-awareness he could neither comprehend where it all came from or get a hold on his emotional melt-down and tried to hide it with a pathetic display of overt masculine strutting and gobbing off, which actually made him look worse. When he said to Frankie for everybody who voted him out that they should just ignore him - I can only hope half the house would keep him at his word. Because I guarantee you, a narcissist like him, that would be the last thing he wants. To be ignored is a fate worse than death - They would just dry up and die. He will go out of his way to cause malignant drama as usual because in his ****ed up emotional world, that keeps him relevant. He cares for nobody's feelings but his own.

And you can NEVER cure a narcisissist. EVER. There is nothing wrong with them. It is all of us who are ****ed in the head and if our feelings get hurt dealing with them? Tough. You don't matter and as long as you understand that and realise you exist for their emotional abuse, life is dandy. Like the saying goes; Neurotics make their own lives a misery. Narcissists just make everybody else miserable. He may be on our screens for a potential 3 more weeks, but I feel very sorry for everybody who will have the deep misfortune of being in his life from here-on-in, because these people get worse as they get older.

One of the worst housemates ever, imo. Just because he acts like an overgrown, spiteful baby having a tantrum and we're talking about it, does not make him entertaining. He is drowning out everybody else's capacity to be shown or heard and we are left to judge their behaviour in reaction to his own.

The boy seriously needs to wean himself off his mother's tit and get himself on solids because when full grown men act like this it really pisses me off to the point of anger. And I hate it that we live in a society that rewards behaviour like this. It really is the dreggs of entertainment, tbh.

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Absolutely fantastic post

Nosedive

06-08-2016

Spot on. A very insightful post and thank you for sharing.

After he was awarded the perpetual nomination it was interesting to note how he immediately singled himself out and put himeslf on a ''pedestal" as apart from the rest, as if he had attained some sort of "special status". In doing so he avoids taking responsibility for any past actions that got him there and in turn prevents any feelings of shame that may ensue.

In short he can repreive himself and proclaim in yet another act of self justification 'if they think that's bad they ain't seen nothing yet' as if this is some sort of licence to exact revenge.

Classic narcissism. He reminds me of Paul Danan in Celeb Love Island of 2006.

sorcha_healy27

06-08-2016

I think that Lewis is probably the most narcissistic of the lot.

kezabella

06-08-2016

Originally Posted by Jane_Lee3:
“Whilst I wouldn't directly disagree with you or dismiss this, I am sick and tired of appalling behaviour being blamed on 'a bad upbringing' or 'a tough childhood.' MANY people didn't have the best childhood, and they don't go around behaving badly and treating people like crap.”

I'm not justifying his behaviour. Im simply saying people are quick to diagnose him with something but we don't know his back story. If you come from a dysfunctional family the chances are you will have the issues Bear has. He's a grown man who is completely unable to self regulate and has a very nasty, spiteful streak which I think is very rarely inherent in most people and usually learnt or born out of some sort of childhood experience.

Pitman

06-08-2016

Originally Posted by kezabella:
“I'm not justifying his behaviour. Im simply saying people are quick to diagnose him with something but we don't know his back story. If you come from a dysfunctional family the chances are you will have the issues Bear has. He's a grown man who is completely unable to self regulate and has a very nasty, spiteful streak which I think is very rarely inherent in most people and usually learnt or born out of some sort of childhood experience.”

well he enjoys family parties so they must be at least a bit dysfunctional, who enjoys family parties, meeting all your arsehole cousins?

Miss XYZ

06-08-2016

Brilliant post, PotNoodleMonkey.

kravchic

06-08-2016

Originally Posted by Sick n Sexified:
“I've had him down as APD from very early on. He's charismatic and uses his natural influence over people to cause malice. This was obvious in the coffee incident with James, that dancing and singing around him was actually pretty sinister psychological bullying. He knew James would be uncomfortable by not doing anything, but if he joined in they would've laughed at him for trying. And when he realised James was no easy victim he got aggressive.

He throws me off a bit sometimes though. A psychopath wouldn't have shat themselves the way he did with that guard, and the way he reacted to that eternal nomination thing was like a rejected child rather than a deflated ego.”

Agree with potnoodlemonkey and others including yourself about his extreme narcissism, and yes as you say it's not that clear as to whether he's a full blown sociopath, the ones I've met in life tend to be a lot more sneaky in the way they get people on side to do their bidding, usually not so in your face the way bear is.

jp761

06-08-2016

I've worked alongside mental health professionals. Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental illness. I could get in touch with some of these health professionals, and ask them for their view. Ask them to watch Bear on big brother, except the last I knew they tend not to watch!! lol

Bear may just be highly self absorbed. And not have any mental illness at all. Personally i'd go for that.

jp761

06-08-2016

Self-absorbed arse wipe whose been treated like a king all his life! That's my call on Bear. Maybe his parents spoiled him as well.

Zarla

06-08-2016

I encountered hundreds of teenage boys like him when I was working in secondary schools. What usually happens is that they grow up.

But I guess Bear didn't grow up - he went on TV instead.

jp761

06-08-2016

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doormouse

06-08-2016

If Self-absorbed equalled mental illness, then Saira has one. I guess this would mean Narcissistic Personality Disorder. But then isn't that a given with Self-serving, celebrity seeking losers?

jp761

06-08-2016

Originally Posted by Zarla:
“I encountered hundreds of teenage boys like him when I was working in secondary schools. What usually happens is that they grow up.

But I guess Bear didn't grow up - he went on TV instead.”

Haha. That's also why he only attracts WomenGirls because he's a Manboy.

I think that will make sense. I know what I mean so that's something.

coke_pepper

06-08-2016

Originally Posted by Helen90:
“Speaking as a psychologist (yes, I actually am) I reckon he's definitely got some sort of a personality disorder. This ain't normal.”

I take it you've got a queue of people lined up round the corner with evaluations like that. Psychologist my arse. Hahahaha

doormouse

06-08-2016

Originally Posted by jp761:
“Haha. That's also why he only attracts WomenGirls because he's a Manboy. I think that will make sense. I know what I mean so that's something.

”

You say you work alongside mental health professionals, in what capacity? It's strange that you would make such a comment if that's true

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