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Saira being played by Bear on LF... you fool Saira
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heresitting
06-08-2016
good god woman, are you really so stupid as to fall for the emotional game playing, the lies of "only you understand me... I'm sorry....". He's stroking your ego whilst making you look an absolute idiot ... and never mind laughing behind your back, he's doing it to your face!

You have about as much dignity and self-awareness as Chloe.... and you both crave attention, even if it is from Bear.
Penny Crayon
06-08-2016
She just gets more and more pathetic. I find her uncomfortable to watch TBH. Her desperation just oozes out of her.
Stellen11
06-08-2016
I thought she was an intelligent woman. i was wrong.
trevor tiger
06-08-2016
Saira is almost intolerable but come on, Bear is not playing her, clearly she is playing him. She has decided this is the way to go to further her game or get her a great deal after the show. After all she is the one that approached Bear and Lewis and she won them over. She is telling Bear how to play the game in her view and is essentially coaching him and owning him It's kind of interesting but hard to enjoy because I can't cope even hearing her voice.
MaureenG
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Saira is almost intolerable but come on, Bear is not playing her, clearly she is playing him. She has decided this is the way to go to further her game or get her a great deal after the show. After all she is the one that approached Bear and Lewis and she won them over. She is telling Bear how to play the game in her view and is essentially coaching him and owning him It's kind of interesting but hard to enjoy because I can't cope even hearing her voice.”

This is exactly how I saw it. Keeping him onside
Darcyprincess
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Saira is almost intolerable but come on, Bear is not playing her, clearly she is playing him. She has decided this is the way to go to further her game or get her a great deal after the show. After all she is the one that approached Bear and Lewis and she won them over. She is telling Bear how to play the game in her view and is essentially coaching him and owning him It's kind of interesting but hard to enjoy because I can't cope even hearing her voice.”

No Saira has now blown it, because she made such a big deal about Chloe upsetting Heavy D by snogging Bear in front of him and how she herself couldn't stand Bear but then nominated Heavy D instead of Bear. Then Renee pulled her up on it on live feed! She knows now that all the others think she's two faced, even James!
Darcyprincess
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by MaureenG:
“This is exactly how I saw it. Keeping him onside ”

She's kept Bear and Lewis on side but everybody else is against her for being two faced! They will turn their back on her too because they are so fickle!
doormouse
06-08-2016
She's desperate for the flattery - she wants to 'belong'.
doormouse
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“She just gets more and more pathetic. I find her uncomfortable to watch TBH. Her desperation just oozes out of her.”

Same here. Her self-involvement is bordering on narcissism.
trevor tiger
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“No Saira has now blown it, because she made such a big deal about Chloe upsetting Heavy D by snogging Bear in front of him and how she herself couldn't stand Bear but then nominated Heavy D instead of Bear. Then Renee pulled her up on it on live feed! She knows now that all the others think she's two faced, even James!”

I'm not sure that is relevant Darcy well to my post and this thread. The thread puts forward the view that Bear is playing Saira and I'm just saying that isn't the case. I agree she is a hypocrite but she is making a strategic move and Bear is a pawn in that move not the other way round. By the way her strategy is no doubt dead in the water as countless other HMs will nom her but there may be something to gain from it. It's definitely her playing Bear in my view.
Pinglet78
06-08-2016
I can't figure Saira out really... But surely if she's a decent person she would've stopped bear eating the food??? Whether he's an arseholian or not.
aggielane
06-08-2016
She deserves to be played
Miss Con Strue
06-08-2016
Maybe they are playing each other because it is mutually beneficial. Saira is soothing the angry Bear, constantly saying 'I know you will respect my personal space now', thus, gaining a pass from Bear's pranks and wind-ups. She knows the HMs are whispering against her, so has little choice but to court the enemy. Chloe is her biggest critic, so by getting Bear (who controls Chloe) on side, she has more chance of shutting her down a bit. Bear really knows he is disliked and is feeling the freeze, so he is also having to court those he doesn't like. I think both Lewis and Bear appreciate Saira defending Bear, so for the moment, she is acceptable. The truth is both Saira and Bear dislike each other and Bear would turn on her in a moment. For now, they both need the alliance.
Heyyouoverthere
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by heresitting:
“good god woman, are you really so stupid as to fall for the emotional game playing, the lies of "only you understand me... I'm sorry....". He's stroking your ego whilst making you look an absolute idiot ... and never mind laughing behind your back, he's doing it to your face!

You have about as much dignity and self-awareness as Chloe.... and you both crave attention, even if it is from Bear.”

I think she is doing that all herself. the minute she started crawling up to Bear is the minute she made herself look like a desperate idiot. She is so desperate to try and fit in with who she thinks is popular.
doormouse
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by Heyyouoverthere:
“I think she is doing that all herself. the minute she started crawling up to Bear is the minute she made herself look like a desperate idiot. She is so desperate to try and fit in with who she thinks is popular.”

Yep, she is one big sell-out. Desperation has an awful stench.
MACTOWIN
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Saira is almost intolerable but come on, Bear is not playing her, clearly she is playing him. She has decided this is the way to go to further her game or get her a great deal after the show. After all she is the one that approached Bear and Lewis and she won them over. She is telling Bear how to play the game in her view and is essentially coaching him and owning him It's kind of interesting but hard to enjoy because I can't cope even hearing her voice.”

I agree and I don't like her some people using any excuse to have a cheap dig at her.
doormouse
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“I agree and I don't like her some people using any excuse to have a cheap dig at her.”

Or maybe some people see it differently to you?
sutie
06-08-2016
With two such disparate groups Saira should realise that it's impossible to ingratiate yourself with both. It seems I credited her with too much intelligence.
doormouse
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by sutie:
“With two such disparate groups Saira should realise that it's impossible to ingratiate yourself with both. It seems I credited her with too much intelligence.”

No problem, so does she.
Pitman
06-08-2016
I think her gameplan is just to say the first thing that comes into her head and endlessly repeat it , is she really a businesswoman, she seems thick as two short planks to me?
Littlegreen42
06-08-2016
Keep your friends close...
trevor tiger
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by doormouse:
“Or maybe some people see it differently to you?”

Of course there is an alternative view but it seems to ignore the facts to say Bear is playing Saira. Why is the common view that Saira is thick but Bear is intelligent enough to carry this off I just think it is a knee jerk reaction because Saira isn't liked and people want to put her down. Therefore Saira is being played, Saira is desperate to be part of the the gang, Saira is thick . . .

As I've said before I don't think there is much to like about Saira BUT that has nothing to do with what is happening here. Bear is not playing her in my view and she is in fact playing him. It appears to me that she has decided this is the way to go to further her game or get her a great deal after the show. She is the one that approached Bear and Lewis and she won them over. Last night she was telling Bear how to play the game in her opinion and is essentially coaching him and in my view owning him.

I find it immensely interesting however Saira's foghorn repetitive voice sadly put me off enjoying it last night as much as I could.
revolver44
06-08-2016
Ridiculous woman. He'd throw her to the sharks quicker than Aubrey could gob in a sandwich
doormouse
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Of course there is an alternative view but it seems to ignore the facts to say Bear is playing Saira. Why is the common view that Saira is thick but Bear is intelligent enough to carry this off I just think it is a knee jerk reaction because Saira isn't liked and people want to put her down. Therefore Saira is being played, Saira is desperate to be part of the the gang, Saira is thick . . .

As I've said before I don't think there is much to like about Saira BUT that has nothing to do with what is happening here. Bear is not playing her in my view and she is in fact playing him. It appears to me that she has decided this is the way to go to further her game or get her a great deal after the show. She is the one that approached Bear and Lewis and she won them over. Last night she was telling Bear how to play the game in her opinion and is essentially coaching him and in my view owning him.

I find it immensely interesting however Saira's foghorn repetitive voice sadly put me off enjoying it last night as much as I could.”

I've felt that way since day one. She's terribly annoying. I take your point but still feel Saira is so self-obsessed that she could never entertain the thought that they would be playing her. Bear, on the other hand, is quite street savvy. He's arrogant but he also knows people's motivations. All four of the 'paddling pool crew' were suspicious of her 'journalistic' approach from the get go. I believe they hold the cards. We shall see.
Pitman
06-08-2016
revolver, you are so cynical, I am sure Bear, Lewis and Saira have already organised their trip to Sugar Hut, they will be great mates for years to come

Saira said to Bear they have so much in common and are soooo similar

she's a maniac, another one that needs carting away
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