Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“What's the big deal with an old buffoon making un-PC remarks and off colour jokes then?”
“What's the big deal with an old buffoon making un-PC remarks and off colour jokes then?”
Hopefully we'll find out at 22:30! ⏰
Why are words worse than deeds?
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Originally Posted by ahoyy:
“Words are capable of causing offence. Housemates (Jackson and co in BB, Katie, Aubrey and co in this one) can audibly say that they are frightened of Jason/Bear/Heavy D, yet the violence they say they're scared of isn't causing offence. And the violent people they're scared of are allowed to remain and even win the show.”
“Words are capable of causing offence. Housemates (Jackson and co in BB, Katie, Aubrey and co in this one) can audibly say that they are frightened of Jason/Bear/Heavy D, yet the violence they say they're scared of isn't causing offence. And the violent people they're scared of are allowed to remain and even win the show.”
Remember Saira .She was slated when she asked bear if he was violent.She may have been outspoken but she said afterwards she wanted to know to keep out of his way.What did she see in him?
Certainly anger oozes ot of his eyes and body. She didn't ask that f anyone else.Bear has made a lot f people uncomfortable in that house.Manipulated situations to offend people .Only Ricky hasn't shown fear or hurt.Three of the Americans keep out of his way. Actions and pent up aggression oozes out of him.
It's just a good job he isn't big .He is bigger and stronger than the older men and most of the women.The only people he hasn't targeted is Marnie Lewis and Chloe Samantha is experienced enough to cope with him.Its also words as well telling people not to trust Lewis .
Jason to be fair although he was so much bigger and stronger than Bear didn't want to be seen losing his temper. Again though laughed when Jackson said he could potentially be frightening to certain people in the house. Bear is a different If he can damage a window like that in the house it could ricochet and hurt someone and I do believe that could happen.
Originally Posted by KT_Dog:
“Hopefully we'll find out at 22:30! ⏰”
“Hopefully we'll find out at 22:30! ⏰”
EXACTLY...we don't really know yet do we?? IF it had been on the live part..we would know what he said! I presume its just during the day or whatever ( NOT saying that what he SUPPOSEDLY said was right)...they would NOT have shown it anyway..but chose to show Bear behaving like a hooligan and allowing him to stay!!!! Something not right here somewhere!!
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“It depends I have been beaten up in my life and sometimes so bad I ended up in Hospital.
I have also been verbally abused and honestly some of the time the words hurt more.
Cuts and bruses heal but what is said can never go away.”
“It depends I have been beaten up in my life and sometimes so bad I ended up in Hospital.
I have also been verbally abused and honestly some of the time the words hurt more.
Cuts and bruses heal but what is said can never go away.”
Reading this made me feel sick to my stomach, to know that you have been hurt so badly both physically and mentally. I don't want to sound insincere but I wish I could do something to make it better for you.
Originally Posted by ahoyy:
“Words are capable of causing offence. Housemates (Jackson and co in BB, Katie, Aubrey and co in this one) can audibly say that they are frightened of Jason/Bear/Heavy D, yet the violence they say they're scared of isn't causing offence. And the violent people they're scared of are allowed to remain and even win the show.”
“Words are capable of causing offence. Housemates (Jackson and co in BB, Katie, Aubrey and co in this one) can audibly say that they are frightened of Jason/Bear/Heavy D, yet the violence they say they're scared of isn't causing offence. And the violent people they're scared of are allowed to remain and even win the show.”
So?
What does being offended by something someone said on BB actually feel like?
Feelings been wounded? It created a feeling of displeasure? It made someone feel angry?
So what? Why do people believe that we need to be protected from being offended?
Don't get me wrong, I believe that where children are concerned some consideration is wise and should be taken. But that's what the watershed is there for.
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“It depends I have been beaten up in my life and sometimes so bad I ended up in Hospital.
I have also been verbally abused and honestly some of the time the words hurt more.
Cuts and bruses heal but what is said can never go away.”
“It depends I have been beaten up in my life and sometimes so bad I ended up in Hospital.
I have also been verbally abused and honestly some of the time the words hurt more.
Cuts and bruses heal but what is said can never go away.”
But verbal abuse is tolerated on BB.
Often when BB deem that somebody has gone over the 'offence line' it's quite often been through casual conversation, where they said a word, or had an opinion which might not be agreeable.
Originally Posted by Veri:
“It depends on the words and on the deeds. There's nothing that says words are always worse.
But a HM breaking down a door isn't something that creates an Ofcom issue, while some things that HMs say are.”
“It depends on the words and on the deeds. There's nothing that says words are always worse.
But a HM breaking down a door isn't something that creates an Ofcom issue, while some things that HMs say are.”
What if somebody being angry and being violent with furniture and fittings elicits memories in some viewers which reminds them of an abusive partner or some thug that once beat them up so badly they were hospitalized?
I know that this is an extreme example, but it's supposed to be. Because it's supposed to demonstrate that people can be offended by all sorts of things. You can't try to instill in people that they have a right to not be offended. It's ridiculous.
What would happen in fiction, like films where very bad people are depicted doing terrible things? How far should it be allowed to go where people are protected from their own subjective feelings of being offended?
Originally Posted by al_capo:
“Because smashing a mirror doesn't compare to joking about about peoples deaths. Joking about the Nazis on national Tv is just stupid especially as there is a jewish housemate in the house.”
“Because smashing a mirror doesn't compare to joking about about peoples deaths. Joking about the Nazis on national Tv is just stupid especially as there is a jewish housemate in the house.”
Joking about nazis has been a fixture on television for decades. It seems to be now, much further away in time from the historical events of WWII, that some people have become more sensitive about this sort of thing, not less so.
When is the right time to make jokes about something after an event? 200 years? A 1000 years? Should we set up a Jokes Police?
In recent polls it turns out that a hell of a lot of young people don't know much about WWII. But I'm sure that they can be offended if they are told that they ought to be offended.
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Joking about nazis has been a fixture on television for decades. It seems to be now, much further away in time from the historical events of WWII, that some people have become more sensitive about this sort of thing, not less so.
When is the right time to make jokes about something after an event? 200 years? A 1000 years? Should we set up a Jokes Police?
In recent polls it turns out that a hell of a lot of young people don't know much about WWII. But I'm sure that they can be offended if they are told that they ought to be offended.”
“Joking about nazis has been a fixture on television for decades. It seems to be now, much further away in time from the historical events of WWII, that some people have become more sensitive about this sort of thing, not less so.
When is the right time to make jokes about something after an event? 200 years? A 1000 years? Should we set up a Jokes Police?
In recent polls it turns out that a hell of a lot of young people don't know much about WWII. But I'm sure that they can be offended if they are told that they ought to be offended.”
There were no nazis.It was all the figment of the imagination of a loser fantasist who liked to pretend to be a tv insider to his gullible fans who then spread it all over the internet.
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